Yeah, another obesity thread

[Great Nepal]

I dont think obesity is a problem that society needs to tackle - mostly people are obese due to there own faults so now they should deal with it.

Blame the victim.

I am surprised by your definition of victim - if I cut myself would I be the victim too?

[Ravea]

I dont think obesity is a problem that society needs to tackle - mostly people are obese due to there own faults so now they should deal with it.

Blame the victim.

Wait, are you saying fat people are victims? Or am I misunderstanding you?

In my view, many (but not all) obese people simply need to learn the meaning of the words Moderation and Daily Exercise.

[Marvel Zombies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cCN3NVZj4A

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I'm not sure if that would go down well in this crowd.

Not sure if anyone around here seems to understand i'm trying to make humor. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you do?

[Grave_n_idle]

Sorry, I'm just a little obsessed with this problem right now. It's not a problem with easy solutions. And ridiculing and mocking obese people doesn't help them, it tends to make the problem worse.

I'm making my own personal effort to fight the problem - in my own life, but what would you do? Please, no "fatties are teh losers and need to die" posts. It's a real problem affecting real people and the solution(s) are not going to be immediate. You (purported) skinny people here can offer solutions - for instance, what, in your life style helps you to remain skinny (in this instance, while genetics may be helpful for you, it doesn't help the rest of us.

Remember the fat didn't come on in a day and it won't come off in a day. Also, remember, there are issues other than just eating too much and moving too little.

http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/08/04/70-m ... olution%2F

The most important single thing you can do is eat better food than most Americans eat (especially in the lower economic quartiles).

Most Americans eat shockingly bad diets, due to the horrendous quality of food available at prices they can generally afford and have good access to.

[Smartephant]

EAt sea weed, it make the thyroid gland release more hormones, increasing metabolism. That will be $25 please.

Can you please show your work?

[Tokos]

Wait, are you saying fat people are victims? Or am I misunderstanding you?

In my view, many (but not all) obese people simply need to learn the meaning of the words Moderation and Daily Exercise.

And, clearly, that sometimes the victim is in fact to blame.

Going "not my fault" certainly doesn't help.

[Zephie]

Sorry, I'm just a little obsessed with this problem right now. It's not a problem with easy solutions. And ridiculing and mocking obese people doesn't help them, it tends to make the problem worse.

I'm making my own personal effort to fight the problem - in my own life, but what would you do? Please, no "fatties are teh losers and need to die" posts. It's a real problem affecting real people and the solution(s) are not going to be immediate. You (purported) skinny people here can offer solutions - for instance, what, in your life style helps you to remain skinny (in this instance, while genetics may be helpful for you, it doesn't help the rest of us.

Remember the fat didn't come on in a day and it won't come off in a day. Also, remember, there are issues other than just eating too much and moving too little.

http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/08/04/70-m ... olution%2F

The most important single thing you can do is eat better food than most Americans eat (especially in the lower economic quartiles).

Most Americans eat shockingly bad diets, due to the horrendous quality of food available at prices they can generally afford and have good access to.

It's not always easy finding safe food to eat. Even your fruits and vegetables might be genetically modified. I buy fruits, breads, etc from the farmer's market when I can, most of it comes from a nearby amish village. I can count the ingredients in their baked goods with one hand.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cCN3NVZj4A

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I'm not sure if that would go down well in this crowd.

Not sure if anyone around here seems to understand i'm trying to make humor. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you do?

ah but humour in general is okay, however alot depends on how it's used and who the humour relates too.
In this case making a joke at the expense of fat people is not a good idea.
In the same way making a cancer joke to someone who has lost a family member to cancer is also a bad idea (i have actually seen this happen).

Humour is not something that can be done just "for the lulz" unless you are asking for arguments and flaming.
A good humourist can read the situation and make the appropriate comment, if the situation calls for more humour to dispense tenseness then sometimes that works, however again it depends on the type of joke used.

In other words you can't just make jokes about anything, despite the otherwise noble idea of making people laugh.

[Usuna]

I used to be a bit overweight(not obese), but I decided to lose the extra pounds and I have kept them off since(2 years). First thing I did was cut out all drinks except for water, green tea, and coffee. Then I went through my fridge and pantry and figured out healthier substitutes for everything. Yogurt with less sugar, Fiber One cereal instead of Fruit Loops, even Weight Watches ice cream bars instead of other desserts, and so on. And then I measured things. I measured(and still do measure) out my cereal, oatmeal, etc... I make sure that I have portion control with everything I eat. When I go out to eat, I immediately ask for a box for my food. I then split the meal in half, and put one half in the box and seal it. It's definitely not easy, but I've come to accept that I can't go around eating cheeseburgers with curly fries all the time.

[Smartephant]

Obesity, like addiction, is a choice. No one forced anyone to eat something they didn't want to eat and no one ever force anyone to use a recreational drug they didn't want to use. They aren't victims except maybe of themselves.

[The Steel Fraternity]

Sorry, I'm just a little obsessed with this problem right now. It's not a problem with easy solutions. And ridiculing and mocking obese people doesn't help them, it tends to make the problem worse.

I'm making my own personal effort to fight the problem - in my own life, but what would you do? Please, no "fatties are teh losers and need to die" posts. It's a real problem affecting real people and the solution(s) are not going to be immediate. You (purported) skinny people here can offer solutions - for instance, what, in your life style helps you to remain skinny (in this instance, while genetics may be helpful for you, it doesn't help the rest of us.

Remember the fat didn't come on in a day and it won't come off in a day. Also, remember, there are issues other than just eating too much and moving too little.

http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/08/04/70-m ... olution%2F

The most important single thing you can do is eat better food than most Americans eat (especially in the lower economic quartiles).

Most Americans eat shockingly bad diets, due to the horrendous quality of food available at prices they can generally afford and have good access to.

It's not always easy finding safe food to eat. Even your fruits and vegetables might be genetically modified.

Which doesn't matter, since:

a) Anything that's been selectively bred/cultivated (which means all domesticated crops and animals) is genetically modified.

b) Genetically modified food is not harmful.

[Zephie]

a) Anything that's been selectively bred/cultivated (which means all domesticated crops and animals) is genetically modified.

Uh, what? That makes about us much sense as calling your baby genetically modified because you choose your partner. Just stop, don't embarrass yourself.

[Skaladora]

Drink. Water. Not. Soda.

[Grave_n_idle]

Sorry, I'm just a little obsessed with this problem right now. It's not a problem with easy solutions. And ridiculing and mocking obese people doesn't help them, it tends to make the problem worse.

I'm making my own personal effort to fight the problem - in my own life, but what would you do? Please, no "fatties are teh losers and need to die" posts. It's a real problem affecting real people and the solution(s) are not going to be immediate. You (purported) skinny people here can offer solutions - for instance, what, in your life style helps you to remain skinny (in this instance, while genetics may be helpful for you, it doesn't help the rest of us.

Remember the fat didn't come on in a day and it won't come off in a day. Also, remember, there are issues other than just eating too much and moving too little.

http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/08/04/70-m ... olution%2F

The most important single thing you can do is eat better food than most Americans eat (especially in the lower economic quartiles).

Most Americans eat shockingly bad diets, due to the horrendous quality of food available at prices they can generally afford and have good access to.

It's not always easy finding safe food to eat. Even your fruits and vegetables might be genetically modified. I buy fruits, breads, etc from the farmer's market when I can, most of it comes from a nearby amish village. I can count the ingredients in their baked goods with one hand.

'Genetically modified' food isn't a big worry. If you eat chicken, you're eating genetically modified meat, by virtue of the fact that chickens aren't a naturally occurring animal - we made them.

No, the real worry is the shit that gets put in food, and the way it gets treated and packaged. Fat cells are cells. They have a function, and they can't do it if you poison them. So all these plasticising agents we use as additives and packaging just fill up fat cells, but make it impossible for them to empty - so your body builds more of them.. .which also don't function.

The most important thing one can do to lose or maintain weight, is to eat good food. (And drink lots of water).

I know it's hard to come by for a lot of Americans. That's why we have such an epidemic of obesity. We have people eating less calories than they use, but gaining 'fat' weight because the fat cells are non-functional.

[The Steel Fraternity]

a) Anything that's been selectively bred/cultivated (which means all domesticated crops and animals) is genetically modified.

Uh, what? That makes about us much sense as calling your baby genetically modified because you choose your partner. Just stop, don't embarrass yourself.

If you chose a partner based on inheritable physical traits, and your ancestors chose their partners the same way then, yes, your baby is genetically modified.

[Grave_n_idle]

a) Anything that's been selectively bred/cultivated (which means all domesticated crops and animals) is genetically modified.

Uh, what? That makes about us much sense as calling your baby genetically modified because you choose your partner. Just stop, don't embarrass yourself.

No, it's true. Human agriculture is a history of genetically modifying food.

[Twisted twister]

Ok do this...


wake up a 3:00 am

get out the door and run and run until you pass out

do this for a week strait with just water as much as possible,and 3 power bars a day and you will be the fittest ever.Unless you pass out within the first 10 miles then you will get nowhere and might have to go for a month or two to build up endurance.

[Bei Song]

a) Anything that's been selectively bred/cultivated (which means all domesticated crops and animals) is genetically modified.

Uh, what? That makes about us much sense as calling your baby genetically modified because you choose your partner. Just stop, don't embarrass yourself.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

[Illithar]

Drink. Water. Not. Soda.

One of the few helpful posts...

[Skaladora]

Drink. Water. Not. Soda.

One of the few helpful posts...

Most obese people don't even need to change what they eat. Just by stopping chugging down liters of high-sugar drinks, and drinking nice refreshing water instead, they'll start losing weight.

I stuff my face on chocolate chip cookies, pizza and other "bad" food on a regular basis. But I never drink soda, or beer(another high calorie beverage), or coffee full of sugar. Still as slim as when I was a teen.

[Zephie]

Drink. Water. Not. Soda.

One of the few helpful posts...

Most obese people don't even need to change what they eat. Just by stopping chugging down liters of high-sugar drinks, and drinking nice refreshing water instead, they'll start losing weight.

I stuff my face on chocolate chip cookies, pizza and other "bad" food on a regular basis. But I never drink soda, or beer(another high calorie beverage), or coffee full of sugar. Still as slim as when I was a teen.

Too bad much water in the U.S is drugged.

[The Steel Fraternity]

Drink. Water. Not. Soda.

This. I was able to lose about 30 lbs in a few weeks by just cutting out soda, reducing portion sizes, and cutting down on the number of times I ate every day.

[Skaladora]

Too bad much water in the U.S is drugged.

Then get natural spring water(bottled). Still a goddamn lot cheaper than soda, so you're not only losing weight but also saving money.

[Wanderjar]

Do what I did to loose weight.
Eat one meal a day (some times less)and go to a two hour wrestling practice everyday.
For three months.

You will loose a lot of weight....

Except that's only temporary and you'll gain it back. Starvation diets are the most unhealthy thing you can undergo.

Look, the best way to lose way is to just count calories and eat things low in sodium and fat. I drink a lot of water, I excerise, and thats how I stay in shape. I gained 80 pounds my first year in college and lost it in about eleven months by drinking a ton of water, keeping my caloric intake around 1600-1700, and doing a healthy amount of excercising.

Since I'm assuming the OP is obese, sometimes starting off hard will get you hurt or bear you no results because you can't keep up with the expectations. The best course of action is to do WHAT YOU CAN and understand that it's a process, not an over night thing. I started by using a rowing machine and doing four 350 yard sets at a level 4 resistance to build up cardio strength, and alternating between that and running as much as I could (at first only a half mile) at about a ten minute mile pace. Was it impressive? No. Did it get me results? Definitely. One day do rowing machine or bike machine or something, next day run. And if you CAN implement a situp regimen. I started off doing four sets of fifteen. And every two weeks I increased it. I went from the four 350s to three five hundreds on the rowing machine, and I was able to increase to a mile, but if you can't then no worries! Its fine! Also, the third week should be taken off from running, strong risk of stress fractures in the legs. For situps I increased to four sets of twenty. Then as you get lighter and in better cardio shape introduce pushups, different kinds of sit ups, other excercises. You can do it! Just gotta want it.

If you've got any other questions just shoot me a TG.

[The Steel Fraternity]

Too bad much water in the U.S is drugged.

Then get natural spring water(bottled). Still a goddamn lot cheaper than soda, so you're not only losing weight but also saving money.

Better yet, just put a water filter on your faucet. That way you don't have to worry about the fluoride sapping your precious bodily fluids and it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than bottled water.