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Hinuy
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Postby Hinuy » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:29 pm

Health care should be free you.
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Barringtonia
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Re: health

Postby Barringtonia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:29 pm

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Greed and Death
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Re: health

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:30 pm

Hinuy wrote:Health care should be free you.

It is impossible for anything to be free, it always has a cost in the goods and services to make it.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
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Scarsaw
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Re: health

Postby Scarsaw » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:32 pm

Only if you want very high taxes to pay for it. Free health care is not really free, we all pay the same amount through taxes, no matter how much or little we use the service.
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Lancaster of Wessex
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Re: health

Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:34 pm

I'm Canadian, in Ontario.
I can walk in and get whatever done (for the most part), free.
But waiting takes a long time and we get taxed highly for it.
So it's not free. It's great in many ways, but flawed in many others.
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Greed and Death
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Re: health

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:35 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:I'm Canadian, in Ontario.
I can walk in and get whatever done (for the most part), free.
But waiting takes a long time and we get taxed highly for it.
So it's not free. It's great in many ways, but flawed in many others.

Even plastic surgery? Like removing wrinkles off my face ?
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
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Lancaster of Wessex
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Re: health

Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:36 pm

greed and death wrote:Even plastic surgery? Like removing wrinkles off my face ?


Most essential things yes, frivolous things (e.g. what you mentioned), nope. ;)
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NERVUN
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Re: health

Postby NERVUN » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:37 pm

greed and death wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:I'm Canadian, in Ontario.
I can walk in and get whatever done (for the most part), free.
But waiting takes a long time and we get taxed highly for it.
So it's not free. It's great in many ways, but flawed in many others.

Even plastic surgery? Like removing wrinkles off my face ?

Would elective plastic surgery be considered health care? Should it be considered?
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The Great Lord Tiger
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Re: health

Postby The Great Lord Tiger » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:38 pm

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Brogavia
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Re: health

Postby Brogavia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:40 pm

Nothing is free.

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Saint Clair Island
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Re: health

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:40 pm

Hinuy wrote:Health care should be free you.

No. Go away.
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Phenia
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Re: health

Postby Phenia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:40 pm

Brogavia wrote:Nothing is free.


How much is your mom?
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Brogavia
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Re: health

Postby Brogavia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:42 pm

Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:Nothing is free.


How much is your mom?


Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.
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Greed and Death
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Re: health

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:43 pm

Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:Nothing is free.


How much is your mom?


His dad said one life time of devotion.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
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Phenia
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Re: health

Postby Phenia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:43 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:Nothing is free.


How much is your mom?


Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.


You evade the question. Look, she's either free or she has a price, and nothing is free right?
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Brogavia
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Re: health

Postby Brogavia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:46 pm

greed and death wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:Nothing is free.


How much is your mom?


His dad said one life time of devotion.


If by lifetime, you mean until they filed for divorce, the yes.
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Scarsaw
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Re: health

Postby Scarsaw » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:47 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
greed and death wrote:Even plastic surgery? Like removing wrinkles off my face ?


Most essential things yes, frivolous things (e.g. what you mentioned), nope. ;)


Frivolous also include braces, medication (no matter how vital), and ambulance rides. Also, what is and isn't covered changes from province to province since Heath Care, like Education, falls largely under the provincial jurisdiction and not the federal one.
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Greed and Death
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Re: health

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:50 pm

Brogavia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Phenia wrote:
How much is your mom?


His dad said one life time of devotion.


If by lifetime, you mean until they filed for divorce, the yes.


I was trying to help you out by providing a good answer to that.
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Brogavia
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Re: health

Postby Brogavia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:51 pm

Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.


You evade the question. Look, she's either free or she has a price, and nothing is free right?


I wasn't evading the question. I was resorting to standard NSG tactics.
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Phenia
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Re: health

Postby Phenia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:52 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.


You evade the question. Look, she's either free or she has a price, and nothing is free right?


I wasn't evading the question. I was resorting to standard NSG tactics.


Ah. Well in that case I'm pointing out that you misspelled "wit." Dass varr inkorekt!
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Saint Clair Island
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Re: health

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:53 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.


You evade the question. Look, she's either free or she has a price, and nothing is free right?


I wasn't evading the question. I was resorting to standard NSG tactics.

That is a standard NSG tactic, though. yes I do get it
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Brogavia
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Re: health

Postby Brogavia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:58 pm

Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
I wasn't evading the question. I was resorting to standard NSG tactics.


Ah. Well in that case I'm pointing out that you misspelled "wit." Dass varr inkorekt!


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Greed and Death
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Re: health

Postby Greed and Death » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:06 pm

NERVUN wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:I'm Canadian, in Ontario.
I can walk in and get whatever done (for the most part), free.
But waiting takes a long time and we get taxed highly for it.
So it's not free. It's great in many ways, but flawed in many others.

Even plastic surgery? Like removing wrinkles off my face ?

Would elective plastic surgery be considered health care? Should it be considered?

My private insurance covers part of it.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
Barack Obama
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Desperate Measures
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Re: health

Postby Desperate Measures » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:29 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
Resorting to playground witt. It speaks volumes.


You evade the question. Look, she's either free or she has a price, and nothing is free right?


I wasn't evading the question. I was resorting to standard NSG tactics.

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