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Are Leftists the most arrogant?

Yes
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26%
No
55
25%
Every Ideology is equally arrogant
72
32%
Leftism is a flawless ideology
22
10%
Other
15
7%
 
Total votes : 223

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Panzerjaeger
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:04 pm

Georgism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:CHILD SOLDIERS, does anyone get that? They take us on because they think that it's for Allah, but they are actually dishonoring Islam. The CHILD SOLDIERS don't even know what they're doing! The only people that are worse are the Nazis, and it's a close call.


I'm pretty sure we're not talking about Islam here...

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.

I hate America's Freedoms as well...does that make me a Kenyan Muslim?
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:06 pm

Georgism wrote:Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.


Okay, now I can just tell you're fucking with me. :lol2:

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Postby Georgism » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:06 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Georgism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:CHILD SOLDIERS, does anyone get that? They take us on because they think that it's for Allah, but they are actually dishonoring Islam. The CHILD SOLDIERS don't even know what they're doing! The only people that are worse are the Nazis, and it's a close call.


I'm pretty sure we're not talking about Islam here...

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.

I hate America's Freedoms as well...does that make me a Kenyan Muslim?

Yes. A Nazi Socialist Whitey-Hating Bleeding-Hearted Pansy Pinko Liberal, too.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:09 pm

Georgism wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Georgism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:CHILD SOLDIERS, does anyone get that? They take us on because they think that it's for Allah, but they are actually dishonoring Islam. The CHILD SOLDIERS don't even know what they're doing! The only people that are worse are the Nazis, and it's a close call.


I'm pretty sure we're not talking about Islam here...

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.

I hate America's Freedoms as well...does that make me a Kenyan Muslim?

Yes. A Nazi Socialist Whitey-Hating Bleeding-Hearted Pansy Pinko Liberal, too.

Hell yes. I will put that on my Business Card.
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Postby Georgism » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:10 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Georgism wrote:Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.


Okay, now I can just tell you're fucking with me. :lol2:

This is the typical leftist arrogance that the OP talks about. Anything you don't agree with must be somebody doing a poor parody of America's partisan divide from across the Atlantic Ocean. :roll:
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Postby Georgism » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:12 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Georgism wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Georgism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:CHILD SOLDIERS, does anyone get that? They take us on because they think that it's for Allah, but they are actually dishonoring Islam. The CHILD SOLDIERS don't even know what they're doing! The only people that are worse are the Nazis, and it's a close call.


I'm pretty sure we're not talking about Islam here...

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.

I hate America's Freedoms as well...does that make me a Kenyan Muslim?

Yes. A Nazi Socialist Whitey-Hating Bleeding-Hearted Pansy Pinko Liberal, too.

Hell yes. I will put that on my Business Card.

Do you mean your welfare card? Hard working Real Americans don't hate our Freedom.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:15 pm

Georgism wrote:Do you mean your welfare card? Hard working Real Americans don't hate our Freedom.

My Corporate Welfare Card! God Bless America for Corporate Bailouts. :lol2:
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Postby The Adrian Empire » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:17 pm

Georgism wrote:
The Adrian Empire wrote:
Click and Stand wrote:Honestly, this is nothing more than a thread generalizing about leftists on this forum without any backing evidence. I could just as easily state "all rightists on this forum have poor grammar and love Sarah Palin" and my assertion would be equally valid. Maybe there is some arrogance on the left, there is on the right as well...there are arrogant people period.

One last thing, I don't like Michael Moore being equated with Glenn Beck. Moore at least truly believes in the ideas he puts forth, even if he fudges with the data and is somewhat misleading in his movies, Glenn Beck is nothing more than an opportunist who spouts right wing propoganda in an attempt to elevate himself to godlike status (and make a pretty penny in the process). Sorry, just annoys me to see someone who is actually genuine lumped in with someone who is clearly not. Now compare Moore with someone like Ben Stein and I'm more willing to agree. This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread so...

Wrong, not that I'm a fan of Glenn Beck but his reasons for spouting his propaganda are one and the same with Micheal Moore's, Micheal Moore is rich, very rich, does that not absolutely contradict his own philosophies of capitalism is bad. At least Glenn Beck isn't a hypocrite.

But Micheal Moore isn't a mormon, so it's all even.

Precisely what I was getting at, their both equally arrogant blowhards, neither one is particularly better.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:20 pm

Georgism wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Georgism wrote:Barack HUSSEIN Obama (AKA The Kenyan Moslem) proves that leftism and radical Islam are intrinsically linked. They both hate America's Freedoms and work hard to destroy them.


Okay, now I can just tell you're fucking with me. :lol2:

This is the typical leftist arrogance that the OP talks about. Anything you don't agree with must be somebody doing a poor parody of America's partisan divide from across the Atlantic Ocean. :roll:


:lol2: :lol2: :rofl: :rofl:

Ok, seriously, you can let the joke die now. I don't think I can laugh anymore.

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Postby Lathuria » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:21 pm

North cavan wrote:One thing I notice a lot on NS is that in the political section you will find many leftists commenting,
In fact it seems they are in the majority of NS debaters. One thing I notice is that they always seems to feel like any opinion other than theirs is ignorant or wrong, and often cut people off from debating any further.
This is not to say other Ideologies are perfect, oh no do not get me wrong on that, there are plenty of Anarcho Capitalists, Right wing Bible Readers, and Authoritarians who are arrogant and cut people off, but it to me just seems that leftists are the worst offenders.
Thoughts?


Provide VALID examples and I will be inclined to agree with your over-generalization.
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Postby First of Two » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:29 pm

Person012345 wrote:
The Ben Boys wrote:
Tokos wrote:
Intangelon wrote:a bunch of terrorist cowards


How are terrorists cowards? As opposed to, say, the brave men who gallantly bomb weddings from miles up.


The Taliban recruit child terrorists to strap bombs to themselves and destroy buildings. They do qualify as cowards. You don't see Osama bin Ladin blowing himself up! At least Bush was in the National Guard! Course he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, granted.
I am pissed...

Would you blow yourself up for a cause?

I in no way condone what terrorists do, but a suicide bomber does have courage.


As i understand it, the suicide bomber believes he's got a one-way-to-heaven-and-houris ticket.

He is therefore fearless.

A man who is fearless cannot be courageous.

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Postby Marvel Zombies » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:30 pm

Left and Right are as bad as each other.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:56 pm

Marvel Zombies wrote:Left and Right are as bad as each other.

That is.... Right, yet it is wrong, meaning that it is Right (Republican) vs. Wrong (liberals, not democrats) which means that being an Idependent is the way to go. You all notice I do express some Republican ideaology, however, I am a conservative, holding my principles and my country dear, and I guess I do fall into the right category.


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Postby Liuzzo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:28 pm

Zephie wrote:
Acadzia wrote:
Canadai wrote:Two words.

Glenn Beck.


I think this is what the OP meant.

Rather than respond, you just picked an easy target and responded in a smarmy manner.

Disclaimer: I'm mostly leftist. But OP, you're right and it irritates me to no end when I'm at a rally or march or something, and everyone is like that.

I held up Ron Paul signs during primaries and Hillary voters were shaking their heads at me :P


Bastards shaking their heads. Arrogant bullies! :clap:
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Postby Liuzzo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:35 pm

Tokos wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:... So, the people who DON'T have Glenn Beck on their side are now the most arrogant?


You've all the Union leaders…


They have TV shows on a major network? I'm just pointing out the silly argument you made. I also told you why I think it's silly. That's all I am saying.
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Postby Liuzzo » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:51 am

Both sides express arrogance in differing ways. I think some of what comes off as arrogance those is that when people make very poor arguments that are so silly you wonder if they even believe them or they are just trolling you.

For instance Parth pointed out the NM uses "word play" to make arguments. Word play can be fun but Obumist, Commist, Hitler, Dark Leader, evil Kenyan" etc. does not consists of word play. It consists of not so veiled conspiracy theories and inadequate knowledge of term that are designed to make people angry. NM used to try and make arguments. Now he just throws out as much red meat as he can to stir the pot. You can call it whatever you want I just call it being a dick. It's not an argument and all that is being made. It's appealing to the lowest reaction you can expect to her. This is just one example I make because Parth (BR) brought it up.

Conversely Conservative Alliance, Vetalia, and others make terrific arguments that people may not agree with but you can discuss. That's the difference. I will never be brought to shout down or name call such posters because they post with respect and they get it in return. Do we all remember that golden rule thing folks?

Here's how things get out of hand:

Conservatve (maybe): I believe XYZ was the result of the...
Liberal (maybe): Really, I'd like to see where you got that from (source)?
Con: I was listening to Savage...
Lib: Boo to Savage do you have something more reliable?
Con: No but if he said it it's true
Lib: Well then I don't accept that
Con: Then you hate America
Lib: No you hate America
Con: Commie Pinko Hitler
Lib: Fascist Racist Asshole

Or more: Obama is an ist of all kinds
Source?
Fuck you hippie
Fuck you fascist

Liberals are arrogant and tell you that you are a horrible person and don't deserve to call America home.
Conservatives are arrogant and tell you to leave the country or they'll hurt you, your family, and rape your dog. More prone to violence and rage.

Perhaps if people could express their ideas better on the right without just repeating what their favorite talking head said it would be better. Some do and they are great to debate with.

It would be good is the left could do the same thing.

It would make those of us in the middle much happier and contribute to better debates.

Also, 2 arguments are not always equal. Some arguments do not deserve respect. Blasted and disproved conspiracy theories (Birthers, 9/11 truthers) and other silly nonsense. So when people peddle this arguments and then others jump on board you will be kindly told your idea has been killed before. If you continue with the same bullshit it is not arrogant to tell you that you are an idiot. Page 1, black is white, page 3 black is white (new poster), page 4 black is white, you get the drill. If the idea has been pounded to shit and you keep trying to bring it up you will be mocked and ridiculed and you deserve it.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:06 am

People that think their opinion is the right one?
That almost never happens!
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