Leftist Arrogance

[Mad hatters in jeans]

The way people talk here sometimes you'd think the whole forum was populated with Communists and Fascists.

I get the communists but Fascists? There are not that many here.

Again, sadly true.

not this again.

[MisanthropicPopulism]

Can we rename the thread "rightist paranoia"

Way to confirm the OP!

If you misunderstand the OP. I'm not calling him wrong. I'm calling him paranoid. Slightly different.

[Panzerjaeger]

Can we rename the thread "rightist paranoia"

Way to confirm the OP!

If you misunderstand the OP. I'm not calling him wrong. I'm calling him paranoid. Slightly different.

Paranoia is the true sign of leadership.

[Lordieth]

Probably not Panzerjaeger, but I do see so many polar extremes sometimes, however I suppose you couldn't say they were far right or left people, just certain opinions. Variety is the spice of life though I suppose.

[Dehn]

Yes, but being right about most things will lead to that

[Rambhutan]

The left on NSG operate by means of a bandwagon. One poster does the wok and they all bandwagon and the rest reiterate the same nonsense in symphony whereas those of us on the right hate/distrust everyone equally, our fellow right wingers included.

So everybody is out to get you?

Yes.

Can we rename the thread "rightist paranoia"

Way to confirm the OP!

[Panzerjaeger]

Probably not Panzerjaeger, but I do see so many polar extremes sometimes, however I suppose you couldn't say they were far right or left people, just certain opinions. Variety is the spice of life though I suppose.

That is one part I do enjoy about NSG the polar extremes. The difference between say Natapoc and I are hilariously massive.

[Tokos]

If you're right, you're not paranoid, by definition. Paranoia is unwarranted.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

If you're right, you're not paranoid, by definition. Paranoia is unwarranted.

wut?

[Conservative Alliances]

Now that I think about it, it may have been on the other forums. I am talking more about the "LOLiareFASCIST!!!LOL" people that pop up.

I haven't really seen that much recently here it is mostly "LOLiareNAZI!!!!!LOL" now though I blame that on the summer letting kids out of school.

The same reason commies show up this time of year...

Oh, Please. The trend of relating "under aged" as the "under educated" to policies you disagree with is rather arrogant in my book.

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive. Why are you making up reasons to criticize me?

I was simply following a common trend. It doesnt seem you were doing anything different.

So you pigeon-holed me?

[Buffett and Colbert]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

[Lordieth]

Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get you, as the saying goes.

[Conservative Alliances]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

For what reason?

[Seculartopia]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

Disruptive? Whats Disruptive and Wrong necessarily about bringing ideas forward?

[Jervak]

I dunno, the Right/Moderate just seem post more on NSG than Leftists like me. Or maybe it's because they LOOK more fierce and arrogant.

Or maybe I'm just arrogant.

:S

[Augarundus]

In real life, every 'leftist' I know tends to act like either:

A) An arrogant, "i r uber-genius" arse.

or

B) A self-righteous, better-than-thou, religious "feel-good" arse.

In either case, EVERY real life leftist I know (I'm not stereotyping, I'm completely serious. EVERY ONE that I know. Every SINGLE one) dismisses all of my arguments on politics. They constantly bring up the idea that "Ayn Rand killed more people than anyone else in history" (seriously) and "Capitalism has failed the US", and, whenever I try to make a logical argument (ex: "Ayn Rand never killed anyone. And neither has individual freedom. Karl Marx labeled feudalistic societies 'racial trash', Che Guevara was a mass-murderer, Mao killed more people than anyone else in history, etc." or "The United States is more of a syndicalist 'third-way' economy, with a mix of a few capitalist ideals, with a lot of socialist ones. It's simply freer than, say, Saudi Arabia.") they simply say "I don't want to talk to you" (I'm actually serious. They don't even dodge the question, then say this. They simply say "I don't want to talk about this" after they brought up the subject) or "Read up; you're ignorant".


Family members and friends who are leftists annoy the HELL out of me: not because they are leftists. Not because they hold political views other than mine. In fact, I LOVE debating and arguing ANYTHING, MOST OF ALL politics.


What annoys me is that they blindly dismiss me, claiming I'm either uneducated and should "read up" (when they can't even explain what Marxism is, let alone who Karl Marx was), or they make some idiotic claim about how the "United States killed 50 million people in Guatemalan genocides" (Yes, I was actually told that. That came from the same Che-loving person who told me that the 1985 Mexico City Earthquake killed half the population of Mexico... not only that, but they KNEW what the population of Mexico was, and they STILL claimed it killed 50+ million people).


On the NS forums, MOST leftists are quite arrogant (that would be because this is NSG)... most right wingers are either silent or arrogant partisan Republicans on the forums, or are right-wingers of the laissez-faire sort, and actually debate (as do some left-wingers... I have yet to meet a Neocon, who is essentially a right-wing socialist, who debates with facts).... but, for me in real life, it's EVERY SINGLE LEFTIST I've EVER MET who acts like that.

Right-wing-thinkers who I know in real life don't even talk about politics and, when a left-wing ideologue begins to beat them up, insult their views (claim that "You know, the United States has killed more people than any other country in history, and it's all because of capitalism" [which we haven't practiced since the 1800's, and even then...]), or just scream loudly "Viva La Revoluccion!" (yes, I know someone who does that, who happens to be the same person who though 50,000,000+ people died in an earthquake and were killed by US-sponsored genocide in Guatemala), they just shut up and say "okay...".


I disagree with most 'right wingers' I know on most issues (they at least discuss them with me if I ask), due to the fact that I'm an Objectivist, but, at least in real life, they are not arrogant, dismissive, obnoxious and loud psychos like the leftists I know (and, when I say leftist, I mean one socialist who loves Marx, Mao, Castro, Che, and Chavez and claims to be a "socialist with some communist views" and several other self-defined "liberal democrats" who couldn't name who wrote the Communist Manifesto, but seem to like screaming about how great Obama is... I mean, literally, drunken screaming about it... they're from Texas... George Bush's hometown, actually... not that I'm stereotyping that all Texans like drinking--.... okay, I am).

[Tokos]

I think people find leftist arrogance more offensive because it's often arrogance about not being arrogant.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

I think people find leftist arrogance more offensive because it's often arrogance about not being arrogant.

what?

[Conservative Alliances]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

Disruptive? Whats Disruptive and Wrong necessarily about bringing ideas forward?

Nothing, I am talking more about the uncommon debater that resorts to insulting ideologies instead of actually debating the topic, though they may not necessarily be young. Examples:

"Well, I wouldn't expect anything else from a fascist."
"You know who would agree with you? Hitler."
"You just hate freedom."
"Capitalism has brought nothing but pain to the world."

[Brewdomia]

The left on NSG operate by means of a bandwagon. One poster does the wok and and the rest reiterate the same nonsense in symphony whereas those of us on the right hate/distrust everyone equally, our fellow right wingers included.

Yeah, pretty much.

Cry me a river there are more Right Wingers here then there are Fascists.

Sadly true. The world, and especially the NS world could do with some more fascists.

Fascism blows mule dick.

[Panzerjaeger]

The left on NSG operate by means of a bandwagon. One poster does the wok and and the rest reiterate the same nonsense in symphony whereas those of us on the right hate/distrust everyone equally, our fellow right wingers included.

Yeah, pretty much.

Cry me a river there are more Right Wingers here then there are Fascists.

Sadly true. The world, and especially the NS world could do with some more fascists.

Fascism blows mule dick.

Wow your deeply insightful rebuttal has made me change ideologies.

[Seculartopia]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

Disruptive? Whats Disruptive and Wrong necessarily about bringing ideas forward?

Nothing, I am talking more about the uncommon debater that resorts to insulting ideologies instead of actually debating the topic, though they may not necessarily be young. Examples:

"Well, I wouldn't expect anything else from a fascist."
"You know who would agree with you? Hitler."
"You just hate freedom."
"Capitalism has brought nothing but pain to the world."

Ah, Understandably.

But more than that a pet peeve of mine is the complete rejection of even listening to what a person has to say and continuing in an assumption about them.

[Panzerjaeger]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

Disruptive? Whats Disruptive and Wrong necessarily about bringing ideas forward?

Nothing, I am talking more about the uncommon debater that resorts to insulting ideologies instead of actually debating the topic, though they may not necessarily be young. Examples:

"Well, I wouldn't expect anything else from a fascist."
"You know who would agree with you? Hitler."
"You just hate freedom."
"Capitalism has brought nothing but pain to the world."

I've gotten 3/4 of those...what do I win?

[Vandengaarde]

The what now? I never said people are undereducated or under aged. I only said that a lot of communists show up when school is out. Twice. Some may be immature, but I won't hold that against them unless they are disruptive.

Reminds me of the thirteen year old communist.

Disruptive? Whats Disruptive and Wrong necessarily about bringing ideas forward?

Nothing, I am talking more about the uncommon debater that resorts to insulting ideologies instead of actually debating the topic, though they may not necessarily be young. Examples:

"Well, I wouldn't expect anything else from a fascist."
"You know who would agree with you? Hitler."
"You just hate freedom."
"Capitalism has brought nothing but pain to the world."

Leftists are entitled to petty insults due to lack of success anywhere else.

[The Rich Port]

... So, the people who DON'T have Glenn Beck on their side are now the most arrogant?

Look, you can't just say an ideology makes it's people arrogant. If it does, it's probably because it's won the ideological popularity fight one too many times (it's not like Rightism has that many shining beacons of light).