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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby NERVUN » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:55 pm

Lizardiar wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Just out of curisoity, how does honor relate to hitting anybody? I mean, unless we're dealing with Klingons (At which case smaking your woman arround is not only acceptable, but the start of a wonderful relationship), I'm not too sure how you're tying the idea of honor into DV.



I guess I was just raised to respect women no matter what they do to me, I would never ever hit a woman. If she slapped me I would either take it or just grab her hand to make her stop.

Ya know, my mother tried to teach me the same, that lasted all of, oh... 5 minutes against my younger sister before I painfully learned the flaw in her argument.

I'm still not too sure why you are tying what sounds like chivalry into honor though.
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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:56 pm

Katganistan wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Uh... Kat IS a woman you know. She'd probably have no qualms about hitting back.

I mean, look at that poor police horse.

I'm gonna get hit now, aren't I?

I keep telling you all, HE HAD IT COMING!

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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:01 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Lizardiar wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Just out of curisoity, how does honor relate to hitting anybody? I mean, unless we're dealing with Klingons (At which case smaking your woman arround is not only acceptable, but the start of a wonderful relationship), I'm not too sure how you're tying the idea of honor into DV.



I guess I was just raised to respect women no matter what they do to me, I would never ever hit a woman. If she slapped me I would either take it or just grab her hand to make her stop.

Why should you take it?
Why is violence against men, by women, ok whereas violence against women, by men, even in self-defense, is not?

Well, because watching a guy get kicked in the balls is funny. There is no correspondingly amusing injury possible to females.

If anyone, of either sex, hit me, I'd flee the area and file assault charges (if it was serious enough). Getting involved in a fight would just make me lose control, and nobody wants that to happen, least of all me.
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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:02 pm

Saint Clair Island wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Uh... Kat IS a woman you know. She'd probably have no qualms about hitting back.

I mean, look at that poor police horse.

I'm gonna get hit now, aren't I?

I keep telling you all, HE HAD IT COMING!

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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:05 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Saint Clair Island wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I keep telling you all, HE HAD IT COMING!

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"... And then he ran into my knife! He ran into my knife ten times!"


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Yeah, they all say that.

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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Secruss » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:09 pm

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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Pope Joan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:35 pm

I think of honor as something demanded by the proud and powerful.

I would rather call what you describe "common decency".

It's really lacking in the 18 to 30 year old group, just look at the way they plow people over in airport lines and so forth.

Otherwise, the younger kids seem ok and so do the more adult adults.

I have no idea what went wrong with Gen Y; too much hiphop?
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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Saint Clair Island » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:42 pm

Pope Joan wrote:I think of honor as something demanded by the proud and powerful.

I would rather call what you describe "common decency".

It's really lacking in the 18 to 30 year old group, just look at the way they plow people over in airport lines and so forth.

Otherwise, the younger kids seem ok and so do the more adult adults.

I have no idea what went wrong with Gen Y; too much hiphop?

Too little education, I'd imagine. Generation X made terrible parents most of the time.
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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Cameroi » Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:54 pm

i believe it is possible to live an honorable life. i like to think i'm doing so.
i like to think most people probably would.
we DO live in a statistical universe, and don't forget, it's simply a function of how bloated human population really is, that there's bound to be some ONE of a FEW somewhere, do just about anything.
that the potential exists, doesn't mean the overwhelming most of us, ever do or would.

beyond this the question gets maybe a bit more complicated.
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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Ravea » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:24 pm

Honor is like a Hawk.

Sometimes, it must go hooded.
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Postby Ferrous Oxide » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:26 pm

Pope Joan wrote:It's really lacking in the 18 to 30 year old group, just look at the way they plow people over in airport lines and so forth.


Hasn't it ALWAYS been that way, though? In the eyes of older generations, them disrespectful youngins are always going to seem wrong.

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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Ravea » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:27 pm

Ferrous Oxide wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:It's really lacking in the 18 to 30 year old group, just look at the way they plow people over in airport lines and so forth.


Hasn't it ALWAYS been that way, though? In the eyes of older generations, them disrespectful youngins are always going to seem wrong.


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Re: Honor in the World?

Postby Ferrous Oxide » Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:28 pm

Ravea wrote:Honor is like a Hawk.

Sometimes, it must go hooded.


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