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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:16 pm

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EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


This.

Agreed... He should have raised it more.


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Postby Inut » Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:22 pm

ronald reagan was ok, but no president could possibly be on the same caliber as Thomas Jefferson :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

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1st o' August is Alistair Darrrling day!

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Actually chesterfields were pretty tasty, although I preferred unfiltered Herbert Tareytons.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:37 pm

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Anywho, Reagan was a terrible, terrible president and I'm glad he's worm food now.


I despise Reagan, but being glad he's dead is a bit over the top.


Why would you be happy if he was still alive?

He would be 100 years old and probably full Alzheimer's. What kind of life is that?
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Postby Marshmellowstan » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:19 pm

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The Voltania wrote:Fuck Reagan. One of the worst Presidents we ever had.

I can agree, Sadly most Americans still think of him as "the best president ever".


Well compared to the shrub; he was pretty damn good.

But you are right. Too many artards these days.....


I mean for gods sake, He made bush seem like a good president!
But just blind the Populace with "good 80s Music and 80s Films" And people will think it is the best decade ever even though like 60% of problems now a days stem from him.
And I don't understand why Libertarians supported him, Reagen Was an Imperialist and Corporatist, not Non Interventionist and Free markets like the Libertarians.

You Sir, have been completely out of touch with America for most of the past decade.
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Postby Aeterna Roma Sancta » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:39 pm

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Jervak wrote:http://www2.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/article/february_6th_2011_declared_ronald_reagan_day/167876/

CALIFORNIA- February 6th, 2011 will mark the late President Ronald Reagan’s 100th birthday and now it will be an official day to remember in California.
Former First Lady Nancy Reagan joined California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in Simi Valley today for a ceremonial signing of a bill making February 6th “Ronald Reagan Day.“
The 89-year-old former first lady was balancing on a cane and the governor’s arm as she walked into the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
She smiled as Schwarzenegger signed a pair of bills one marking the yearly celebration of Reagan’s birthday in California and the other establishing a commission to plan Reagan centennial events.
Schwarzenegger told the audience, “Ronald Reagan is my hero.“


Let's celebrate...by putting these up in every visible corner of America:
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^
What an idiotic suggestion. :roll:

Ronald Reagan should be the fifth face on Mount Rushmore. Ronald Reagan today is a better President than the Kenyan Moslem can ever dream of being.

Meanwhile, those who would post such asinine posters aren't fit to shine Reagan's shoes, and will be forgotten the day they die, if anyone knows who they are now.

Because any criticism of Papa Reagan is a heresy against true American values. :palm:

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:40 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Techno-Soviet wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


This.

Agreed... He should have raised it more.


Why? :blink:

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Postby Allrule » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:42 pm

Aeterna Roma Sancta wrote:
Neu Mitanni wrote:
Jervak wrote:http://www2.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/article/february_6th_2011_declared_ronald_reagan_day/167876/

CALIFORNIA- February 6th, 2011 will mark the late President Ronald Reagan’s 100th birthday and now it will be an official day to remember in California.
Former First Lady Nancy Reagan joined California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in Simi Valley today for a ceremonial signing of a bill making February 6th “Ronald Reagan Day.“
The 89-year-old former first lady was balancing on a cane and the governor’s arm as she walked into the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
She smiled as Schwarzenegger signed a pair of bills one marking the yearly celebration of Reagan’s birthday in California and the other establishing a commission to plan Reagan centennial events.
Schwarzenegger told the audience, “Ronald Reagan is my hero.“


Let's celebrate...by putting these up in every visible corner of America:
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^
What an idiotic suggestion. :roll:

Ronald Reagan should be the fifth face on Mount Rushmore. Ronald Reagan today is a better President than the Kenyan Moslem can ever dream of being.

Meanwhile, those who would post such asinine posters aren't fit to shine Reagan's shoes, and will be forgotten the day they die, if anyone knows who they are now.

Because any criticism of Papa Reagan is a heresy against true American values. :palm:

SO PATRIOTS, WE MUST DISBAND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO DEFEND TRUE AMERICAN VALUES!!!!
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Postby Lowell Leber » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:49 pm

Jervak wrote:http://www2.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/article/february_6th_2011_declared_ronald_reagan_day/167876/

CALIFORNIA- February 6th, 2011 will mark the late President Ronald Reagan’s 100th birthday and now it will be an official day to remember in California.
Former First Lady Nancy Reagan joined California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in Simi Valley today for a ceremonial signing of a bill making February 6th “Ronald Reagan Day.“
The 89-year-old former first lady was balancing on a cane and the governor’s arm as she walked into the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
She smiled as Schwarzenegger signed a pair of bills one marking the yearly celebration of Reagan’s birthday in California and the other establishing a commission to plan Reagan centennial events.
Schwarzenegger told the audience, “Ronald Reagan is my hero.“


Let's celebrate...by putting these up in every visible corner of America:
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Your poster is right about alot...but was the massive military spending a bad idea? Or was reaking a corrupt union so bad?
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Postby Sailsia » Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:16 pm

The Voltania wrote:Fuck Reagan. One of the worst Presidents we ever had.

Seconded.
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Postby Marcurix » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:14 pm

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Fuck Reagan. One of the worst Presidents we ever had.


how so exactly?
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Postby The North Papal States » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:21 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


Damn that bastard and his science! I want booze! :roll:

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Postby Linux and the X » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:00 pm

The North Papal States wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


Damn that bastard and his science! I want booze! :roll:

:yawn:
By the time they reach the eighth grade, nearly 50 percent of adolescents have had at least one drink, and over 20 percent report having been “drunk” (1). Approximately 20 percent of 8th graders and almost 50 percent of 12th graders have consumed alcohol within the past 30 days (1). Among 12th graders, almost 30 percent report drinking on 3 or more occasions per month (2).

Okay, fair enough. People get drunk. This generally is not considered a problem.

Approximately 30 percent of 12th graders engage in heavy episodic drinking, now popularly termed “binge” drinking—that is, having at least five or more drinks on one occasion within the past 2 weeks—and it is estimated that 20 percent do so on more than one occasion (2).

Binge drinking, on the other hand, is a problem. But it's also a problem shared with nineteen percent of people over age thirty-five. In fact, the drinking age, by restricting opportunities to access alcohol, encourages young people to drink more when they do have access.

Apart from being illegal, underage drinking poses a high risk to both the individual and society (3). For example, the rate of alcohol–related traffic crashes is greater for drivers ages 16 to 20 than for drivers age 21 and older (4). Adolescents also are vulnerable to alcohol–induced brain damage, which could contribute to poor performance at school or work.

Alcohol-related traffic crashes? Apart from the fact that young drivers are considered to be in an "alcohol-related' crash when the other driver was drunk, it is expected that traffic crashes are more prevailant among younger drivers: they haven't had as much experience driving. As for the brain damage, one must examine the study that got those results. In that study, rats were given an extremely high amount of alcohol, which did result in brain damage. Such a large amount is not consumed in social drinking.

In addition, youthful drinking is associated with an increased likelihood of developing alcohol abuse or dependence later in life. Early intervention is essential to prevent the development of serious alcohol problems among youth between the ages of 12 and 20.

Why, then, is alcoholism more prevailant in the United States, with a drinking age of 21, higher than, say, Greece, which doesn't have any drinking age? Or, for that matter, shoppe purchase age, and a bar age of 17.

Underage alcohol use is more likely to kill young people than all illegal drugs combined (5,6).

That makes sense. Alcohol is legally available to those over the magic age, and can then be given to those who have not yet received their magical alcohol tolerance the moment they turn 21.

Must I really go on? The "science" behind MLDA 21 is, quite simply, bullshit. Even if it were shown to be riskier for those under 21, it is a clearly discriminatory law and therefore violates the fourteenth amendment.
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:29 am

Linux and the X wrote:
The North Papal States wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


Damn that bastard and his science! I want booze! :roll:

:yawn:
By the time they reach the eighth grade, nearly 50 percent of adolescents have had at least one drink, and over 20 percent report having been “drunk” (1). Approximately 20 percent of 8th graders and almost 50 percent of 12th graders have consumed alcohol within the past 30 days (1). Among 12th graders, almost 30 percent report drinking on 3 or more occasions per month (2).

Okay, fair enough. People get drunk. This generally is not considered a problem.

Approximately 30 percent of 12th graders engage in heavy episodic drinking, now popularly termed “binge” drinking—that is, having at least five or more drinks on one occasion within the past 2 weeks—and it is estimated that 20 percent do so on more than one occasion (2).

Binge drinking, on the other hand, is a problem. But it's also a problem shared with nineteen percent of people over age thirty-five. In fact, the drinking age, by restricting opportunities to access alcohol, encourages young people to drink more when they do have access.

Apart from being illegal, underage drinking poses a high risk to both the individual and society (3). For example, the rate of alcohol–related traffic crashes is greater for drivers ages 16 to 20 than for drivers age 21 and older (4). Adolescents also are vulnerable to alcohol–induced brain damage, which could contribute to poor performance at school or work.

Alcohol-related traffic crashes? Apart from the fact that young drivers are considered to be in an "alcohol-related' crash when the other driver was drunk, it is expected that traffic crashes are more prevailant among younger drivers: they haven't had as much experience driving. As for the brain damage, one must examine the study that got those results. In that study, rats were given an extremely high amount of alcohol, which did result in brain damage. Such a large amount is not consumed in social drinking.

In addition, youthful drinking is associated with an increased likelihood of developing alcohol abuse or dependence later in life. Early intervention is essential to prevent the development of serious alcohol problems among youth between the ages of 12 and 20.

Why, then, is alcoholism more prevailant in the United States, with a drinking age of 21, higher than, say, Greece, which doesn't have any drinking age? Or, for that matter, shoppe purchase age, and a bar age of 17.

Underage alcohol use is more likely to kill young people than all illegal drugs combined (5,6).

That makes sense. Alcohol is legally available to those over the magic age, and can then be given to those who have not yet received their magical alcohol tolerance the moment they turn 21.

Must I really go on? The "science" behind MLDA 21 is, quite simply, bullshit. Even if it were shown to be riskier for those under 21, it is a clearly discriminatory law and therefore violates the fourteenth amendment.


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Oh give the guy a break, you pussies.
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Postby North Suran » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:45 am

The North Papal States wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


Damn that bastard and his science! I want booze! :roll:

Considering he simply replaced drinking culture with drug culture...
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Postby Allrule » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:45 am

Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:
The North Papal States wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


Damn that bastard and his science! I want booze! :roll:

:yawn:
By the time they reach the eighth grade, nearly 50 percent of adolescents have had at least one drink, and over 20 percent report having been “drunk” (1). Approximately 20 percent of 8th graders and almost 50 percent of 12th graders have consumed alcohol within the past 30 days (1). Among 12th graders, almost 30 percent report drinking on 3 or more occasions per month (2).

Okay, fair enough. People get drunk. This generally is not considered a problem.

Approximately 30 percent of 12th graders engage in heavy episodic drinking, now popularly termed “binge” drinking—that is, having at least five or more drinks on one occasion within the past 2 weeks—and it is estimated that 20 percent do so on more than one occasion (2).

Binge drinking, on the other hand, is a problem. But it's also a problem shared with nineteen percent of people over age thirty-five. In fact, the drinking age, by restricting opportunities to access alcohol, encourages young people to drink more when they do have access.

Apart from being illegal, underage drinking poses a high risk to both the individual and society (3). For example, the rate of alcohol–related traffic crashes is greater for drivers ages 16 to 20 than for drivers age 21 and older (4). Adolescents also are vulnerable to alcohol–induced brain damage, which could contribute to poor performance at school or work.

Alcohol-related traffic crashes? Apart from the fact that young drivers are considered to be in an "alcohol-related' crash when the other driver was drunk, it is expected that traffic crashes are more prevailant among younger drivers: they haven't had as much experience driving. As for the brain damage, one must examine the study that got those results. In that study, rats were given an extremely high amount of alcohol, which did result in brain damage. Such a large amount is not consumed in social drinking.

In addition, youthful drinking is associated with an increased likelihood of developing alcohol abuse or dependence later in life. Early intervention is essential to prevent the development of serious alcohol problems among youth between the ages of 12 and 20.

Why, then, is alcoholism more prevailant in the United States, with a drinking age of 21, higher than, say, Greece, which doesn't have any drinking age? Or, for that matter, shoppe purchase age, and a bar age of 17.

Underage alcohol use is more likely to kill young people than all illegal drugs combined (5,6).

That makes sense. Alcohol is legally available to those over the magic age, and can then be given to those who have not yet received their magical alcohol tolerance the moment they turn 21.

Must I really go on? The "science" behind MLDA 21 is, quite simply, bullshit. Even if it were shown to be riskier for those under 21, it is a clearly discriminatory law and therefore violates the fourteenth amendment.


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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Aug 01, 2010 1:59 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Techno-Soviet wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


This.

Agreed... He should have raised it more.


Why? :blink:

Because my experience is that most 21 year olds are not nearly mature enough.
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Postby North Suran » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:16 am

Dyakovo wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Agreed... He should have raised it more.


Why? :blink:

Because my experience is that most 21 year olds are not nearly mature enough.

They're apparently mature enough to decide who they want to live with for the rest of their life, to hold a job and to decide who runs the country, but not mature enough to drink alcohol?
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Postby Brandenburg-Altmark » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:23 am

Dyakovo wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
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EvilDarkMagicians wrote:He raised national drinking age to 21?

Fuck him.


This.

Agreed... He should have raised it more.


Why? :blink:

Because my experience is that most 21 year olds are not nearly mature enough.


Making something illegal does not increase their maturity in relation to it. European drinking laws are far, far more relaxed than American ones, and yet the kind of rampant alcoholism in the teenage population is unheard of over there.
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