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Help my Dad stop smoking.

Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:05 pm

My dad has smoked since he was a young adult and managed to quit for 2 years before starting again. We have tried various things like nicotine gum, patches, tablets, nasal nicotine and electronic cigarettes, they have all worked but only for a short period of time, he has also tried Allan Carr's easy way to stop smoking hypno therapy course which didn't work. Now he is 42 and it finally seems to be taking a toll on his health, he coughs more has a high heart rate and gets out of breath quickly, he is seeing a doctor in a week...
My dad is healthy in every other aspect (weight, mental health) etc. But i've tried to motivate him and other things, it works for maybe a month then he smokes again, does anybody have a long term solution that worked for other people? He wants to quit, i want him to quit. We just can't work out how! :mad:
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Postby Belschaft » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:06 pm

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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:07 pm

What is that?
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Postby Desperate Measures » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:07 pm

If you find something that works let me know. I also need to quit.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:08 pm

If nothing else works, maybe you'll just have to raid his home and throw out the cigarettes.
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Postby Phenia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:09 pm

Make an offer. If he stops smoking you will stop selling your ass on the street for crack money.

I mean, I'm not saying you do that currently, but that way if he keeps smoking you can get into it and blame him. Maybe the guilt trip will make him reconsider before you die of AIDS.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:10 pm

The gum worked real well for me, but everyone is different and nicotine addiction is very, very hard to kick. He really does have to want to quit. Maybe the doctor will scare the bejesus out of him and he can quit for good this time. Good luck.
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Re: Help my Dad stop smoking.

Postby Ashmoria » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:10 pm

have him talk to his doctor about CHANTIX.

my sister smoked from the time she was 18 until she was 58. she tried all the methods your dad has tried. only chantix worked. she hasnt had a cigarette in over a year and never really wants one. its like a freaking miracle.

its expensive but he must take the full 3 month course if he is to have a chance to have it work, he may have to take it for 6 months, some people do.
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Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:11 pm

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Re: Help my Dad stop smoking.

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:12 pm

Use a fire extinguisher.
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Postby North Occidentia » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:12 pm

Seeing a hypnotherapist worked for my dad.

Or he could switch to cigars or pipes. Cigar smokers live just as long as non-smokers. Pipe smokers live longer than non-smokers.

Some anti-depressants (Wellbutrin) also can work, I hear. I tried it, though, and I smoked just as much.
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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:13 pm

CHANTIX looks promising, i checked out their homepage just now. I'll talk to him about it.
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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:15 pm

We asked a doctor about Cigars instead of Cigarettes, he said it justs moves the problem round, instead of lung cancer you get throat cancer!
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:15 pm

Also, tell him to drink some CILLIT BANG. His lungs will be like the penny, good as new!

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Postby New Central Europe » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:15 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Use a fire extinguisher.

WHAT?! :eek:

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Postby Baycosa » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:16 pm

I stopped smoking by starting to drink coffee, have not touched a cig ever since (except a or two cigar on parties mind you, all is good in moderation), also without becoming a caffine addict.

Next is finding a hobby to do besides smoking, I picked up Warhammer (that might not be best for every one), whenever yer dad wants a smoke, force him inte doing fun stuff.
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Re: Help my Dad stop smoking.

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:17 pm

New Central Europe wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Use a fire extinguisher.

WHAT?! :eek:


If he's smoking, he's probably on fire. Spray him and you address the root cause.

Either that, or instruct him in the noble art of stop-drop-and-roll.

Mind, if its spontaneous human combustion, he's pretty much fucked.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:18 pm

If you want to be really extreme about it why don't you take a pack of his cigarettes, toss em' out the window in front of him, and tell him you'd rather not see him die a slow painful cancer-related death.

That's what i'd do if it were my dad, but that's just me. I don't think I'm obligated to give you that kind of advice, I could get you killed for all I know, so I don't know why you're asking people in the first place.
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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:18 pm

CILLIT BANG is toilet cleaner, ha ha ha very funny joke (not) :palm:
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Postby North Wiedna » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:19 pm

New Central Europe wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Use a fire extinguisher.

WHAT?! :eek:

Meaning he's on fire.
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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:20 pm

That dosen't work, the guy from the NHS stop smoking thing said he would have to feel motivated to quit and not pressured or stressed...
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:20 pm

Louis Van Boxel Woolf wrote:CILLIT BANG is toilet cleaner, ha ha ha very funny joke (not) :palm:


Them's fighting words, bitch. Don't force me to challenge you to a grudge match in the CAAAAAAAAAAAGE.
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Postby Jimanistan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:22 pm

I think I do have some actual advice, now that I think about it...

Does your dad work? If so, have him take a few weeks of vacation, sick, or personal days, or some combination thereof. Once this is done, take him to a place with a door that can be locked and unlocked only from the outside. This place should preferably have access to food, water, and a toilet, and possibly a shower.

Once there, trick him into going in alone, and then lock him in. After a sufficient amount of time, let him out. He should be smoke-free, although he might hate you.

A slight modification to this plan allows it to work as a diet, too.
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Postby Louis Van Boxel Woolf » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:24 pm

Already tried that.
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Re: Help my Dad stop smoking.

Postby American Pit Bulls » Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:09 pm

The #1 thing for successfully quitting is he MUST Absolutely want to quit. If their is the slightest percentage of him not wanting to quit, you my as well give up now because he isn't going to quit. Remember, nicotine influences the mind in thinking you want to smoke. Your will power and brain power must first take that power over the mind back. Once you have full and complete control over your mind then you will successfully have the ability to quit smoking.
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