Racism entering Schools?

[Tungookska]

Antartica

bears

i see what he did there

[Aryan Republics of Ame]

give me a break racism is not tolerated in schools they expel people for racist fights so this thread is pointless

It was tolerated in my school. It's tolerated in many small town high schools .

[Tungookska]

give me a break racism is not tolerated in schools they expel people for racist fights so this thread is pointless

source

[Clatoxe]

give me a break racism is not tolerated in schools they expel people for racist fights so this thread is pointless

It was tolerated in my school. It's tolerated in many small town high schools .

i want a source for that too; i dont think race is the issue with gang/violence shit in high schools. from what ive experienced, people fought/fight to assert their dominance over another. there was never any valid reason to fight, and it was always over something idiotic and not over race (like girlfriends, or "talking shit"). i keep hearing about this racist violence, but overall, i'd like to know how often it occurs (im not saying it doesn't). or is someone manipulating facts to suit theories rather than theories to suit facts?

[Tungookska]

or is someone manipulating facts to suit theories rather than theories to suit facts?

ebilracismneedstobestoped itsevilandkillingourschools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[Ryadn]

pic unrelated

not really, considering this is pretty much the extremity these OP's who bring up "racism" take it. how many threads are there on this already? the OP should have used the search feature. its not that hard.

*starts singing 'Suicide Is Painless'*

[Jimanistan]

Racism is a part of life throughout America, to varying degrees depending on where you live. It should come as no surprise that it enters the schools from time to time.

That said, I don't remember anything particularly racist (word or deed) occurring at my school, or for that matter any school I've been to.

[Clatoxe]

That said, I don't remember anything particularly racist (word or deed) occurring at my school, or for that matter any school I've been to.

Yeah same here and it's apparently everywhere.....that's just they want to you to think.

[Tungookska]

That said, I don't remember anything particularly racist (word or deed) occurring at my school, or for that matter any school I've been to.

your school must have been pretty cool then, everyone was racist in mine

[Western cuba]

I was made fun of because of my nationality when I lived in Cleveland because I was white by many people that lived there.

[The Sentenial Empire]

If you guys wanna see racism in practice go hang out in south africa with an indian friend...that is the definition of racism, stereotyping will never go away as much as we try.

[Western cuba]

That is true Racism will never be forgotten and will never be stopped.

[Jimanistan]

your school must have been pretty cool then, everyone was racist in mine

I guess there's not much racial tension in west-central Indiana.

[Jimanistan]

That is true Racism will never be forgotten and will never be stopped.

That is, at best, debatable.

[Tungookska]

That is true Racism will never be forgotten and will never be stopped.

That is, at best, debatable.

guess not

[Aryan Republics of Ame]

I think this thread is simple to solve. If you went to an urban school, you experienced little to no racism(at least white on nonwhite), whereas if you went to school in small town with rural surroundings you probably got more of that going on. At least that's how I figure.
Oh and the greatest "racist" moment in my high school was on MLK day, which also happened to be drive your tractor to school day( It was FFA week, and yes I went to school in hick ass nowhere). Me and my pals decided to put up Confederate Battle Flags up on all our tractors and trucks that day and wore shirts with Southern pride type messages on them. One kid even made a cape out of a flag and ran down the hallways shouting racial slurs. the funny part is we didn't get in trouble. The funnier part is my high school is not located in the south

[Tungookska]

I think this thread is simple to solve. If you went to an urban school, you experienced little to no racism(at least white on nonwhite), whereas if you went to school in small town with rural surroundings you probably got more of that going on. At least that's how I figure.
Oh and the greatest "racist" moment in my high school was on MLK day, which also happened to be drive your tractor to school day( It was FFA week, and yes I went to school in hick ass nowhere). Me and my pals decided to put up Confederate Battle Flags up on all our tractors and trucks that day and wore shirts with Southern pride type messages on them. One kid even made a cape out of a flag and ran down the hallways shouting racial slurs. the funny part is we didn't get in trouble. The funnier part is my high school is not located in the south

cool story bro

but at my school it wasnt the whites being racis'

[Aryan Republics of Ame]

I think this thread is simple to solve. If you went to an urban school, you experienced little to no racism(at least white on nonwhite), whereas if you went to school in small town with rural surroundings you probably got more of that going on. At least that's how I figure.
Oh and the greatest "racist" moment in my high school was on MLK day, which also happened to be drive your tractor to school day( It was FFA week, and yes I went to school in hick ass nowhere). Me and my pals decided to put up Confederate Battle Flags up on all our tractors and trucks that day and wore shirts with Southern pride type messages on them. One kid even made a cape out of a flag and ran down the hallways shouting racial slurs. the funny part is we didn't get in trouble. The funnier part is my high school is not located in the south

cool story bro

but at my school it wasnt the whites being racis'

Ya these days it usually is the other way around. It's a shame.

[Tungookska]

I think this thread is simple to solve. If you went to an urban school, you experienced little to no racism(at least white on nonwhite), whereas if you went to school in small town with rural surroundings you probably got more of that going on. At least that's how I figure.
Oh and the greatest "racist" moment in my high school was on MLK day, which also happened to be drive your tractor to school day( It was FFA week, and yes I went to school in hick ass nowhere). Me and my pals decided to put up Confederate Battle Flags up on all our tractors and trucks that day and wore shirts with Southern pride type messages on them. One kid even made a cape out of a flag and ran down the hallways shouting racial slurs. the funny part is we didn't get in trouble. The funnier part is my high school is not located in the south

cool story bro

but at my school it wasnt the whites being racis'

Ya these days it usually is the other way around. It's a shame.

and whats worse is the attitude of "Whites cant be discriminated against!!"

[Lehengolt]

My problem is with the idea of "institutional racism", as I heard one activist describe it. Instead of labeling a whole race (ie. "whites") as racist, it labels organizations and processes not run by or for people other than "whites" as racist. Racism is an issue internal to an individual, at least until they express it specifically to speak for a group to which they themselves belong.

As far as it going on inside schools, I can only speak to my experiences. I grew up in a semi-metropolitan area in the South, but I can't say that I witnessed any, with only one exception. One day I did see this one particular asshole make fun of another kid of Vietnamese descent for the way he looked and talked. This is the same asshole that only two years prior I had hit twice in rapid succession in his left eye for harassing me and physically trying to provoke me; fortunately, I had standing permission from the teacher to do it because she knew how much of an asshole he was and that the impotent school district wouldn't let her do anything about him. He said he'd wait in the parking lot for me after school, which he didn't show, likely because there was a large [multi-ethnic, btw] group of my fellow JROTC cadets backing me.

In my professional life, that's another story. I've witnessed blatant favoritism by a certain ethnic minority supervisor toward someone of same said minority. I've been discriminated against and verbally assaulted for being "white". I have a feeling, but I can't prove it, that I've lost job opportunities to equal or lesser qualified persons because of "diversity" quotas. However, I've also seen "white" supervisors appear to discriminate against minority employees, and I've heard employees of majority and minority ethnic groups make disparaging remarks about other's ethnicities, religions, and sexual orientation. Virtually all of them were in age groups 7+ years older than me.

My conclusion based on my personal experiences: Though racism may still exist within the younger generation, it's not as bad as that of previous generations, and that's an improvement. But the problem for the most part is the individuals, not the groups.

[Old Erisia]

My problem is with the idea of "institutional racism", as I heard one activist describe it. Instead of labeling a whole race (ie. "whites") as racist, it labels organizations and processes not run by or for people other than "whites" as racist. Racism is an issue internal to an individual, at least until they express it specifically to speak for a group to which they themselves belong.

As far as it going on inside schools, I can only speak to my experiences. I grew up in a semi-metropolitan area in the South, but I can't say that I witnessed any, with only one exception. One day I did see this one particular asshole make fun of another kid of Vietnamese descent for the way he looked and talked. This is the same asshole that only two years prior I had hit twice in rapid succession in his left eye for harassing me and physically trying to provoke me; fortunately, I had standing permission from the teacher to do it because she knew how much of an asshole he was and that the impotent school district wouldn't let her do anything about him. He said he'd wait in the parking lot for me after school, which he didn't show, likely because there was a large [multi-ethnic, btw] group of my fellow JROTC cadets backing me.

In my professional life, that's another story. I've witnessed blatant favoritism by a certain ethnic minority supervisor toward someone of same said minority. I've been discriminated against and verbally assaulted for being "white". I have a feeling, but I can't prove it, that I've lost job opportunities to equal or lesser qualified persons because of "diversity" quotas. However, I've also seen "white" supervisors appear to discriminate against minority employees, and I've heard employees of majority and minority ethnic groups make disparaging remarks about other's ethnicities, religions, and sexual orientation. Virtually all of them were in age groups 7+ years older than me.

My conclusion based on my personal experiences: Though racism may still exist within the younger generation, it's not as bad as that of previous generations, and that's an improvement. But the problem for the most part is the individuals, not the groups.

First off, "institutionalized racism" can be used to describe the social attitudes that continue to produce racists in the younger generations

Second, there are no such things as minority quotas.

Thirdly institutionalized racism still applies to discrimination against whites.

Fourthly, focusing on just individuals who are racists can ignore what is causing the individuals to have racist attitudes.

[Ryadn]

My problem is with the idea of "institutional racism", as I heard one activist describe it. Instead of labeling a whole race (ie. "whites") as racist, it labels organizations and processes not run by or for people other than "whites" as racist. Racism is an issue internal to an individual, at least until they express it specifically to speak for a group to which they themselves belong.

As far as it going on inside schools, I can only speak to my experiences. I grew up in a semi-metropolitan area in the South, but I can't say that I witnessed any, with only one exception. One day I did see this one particular asshole make fun of another kid of Vietnamese descent for the way he looked and talked. This is the same asshole that only two years prior I had hit twice in rapid succession in his left eye for harassing me and physically trying to provoke me; fortunately, I had standing permission from the teacher to do it because she knew how much of an asshole he was and that the impotent school district wouldn't let her do anything about him. He said he'd wait in the parking lot for me after school, which he didn't show, likely because there was a large [multi-ethnic, btw] group of my fellow JROTC cadets backing me.

In my professional life, that's another story. I've witnessed blatant favoritism by a certain ethnic minority supervisor toward someone of same said minority. I've been discriminated against and verbally assaulted for being "white". I have a feeling, but I can't prove it, that I've lost job opportunities to equal or lesser qualified persons because of "diversity" quotas. However, I've also seen "white" supervisors appear to discriminate against minority employees, and I've heard employees of majority and minority ethnic groups make disparaging remarks about other's ethnicities, religions, and sexual orientation. Virtually all of them were in age groups 7+ years older than me.

My conclusion based on my personal experiences: Though racism may still exist within the younger generation, it's not as bad as that of previous generations, and that's an improvement. But the problem for the most part is the individuals, not the groups.

First off, "institutionalized racism" can be used to describe the social attitudes that continue to produce racists in the younger generations

Second, there are no such things as minority quotas.

Thirdly institutionalized racism still applies to discrimination against whites.

Fourthly, focusing on just individuals who are racists can ignore what is causing the individuals to have racist attitudes.

All of this, with an expansion on 'institutionalized racism':

For most of their history, black Americans were unable to inherit wealth, leaving them at a huge disadvantage today which cannot be overcome in a single generation. That's institutionalized racism.

Job applicants with names that 'sound black' are significantly less likely to be hired than job applicants with names that 'sound white', all qualifications being equal. That's institutionalized racism.

Poor urban areas that predominately house people of color are less likely to provide safe and adequate schools, generally pay teachers less (attracting teachers who are not always highly qualified), and less likely to offer students educational opportunities or have college recruiting. That's institutionalized racism.

[The Aryan Third Reich]

Racism entered schools? When did it ever leave?

Exactly. Far as I'm concerned it's always been present. My school wasn't so bad though. Should've raised more havoc now that I think about it..

[Katonazag]

My problem is with the idea of "institutional racism", as I heard one activist describe it. Instead of labeling a whole race (ie. "whites") as racist, it labels organizations and processes not run by or for people other than "whites" as racist. Racism is an issue internal to an individual, at least until they express it specifically to speak for a group to which they themselves belong.

As far as it going on inside schools, I can only speak to my experiences. I grew up in a semi-metropolitan area in the South, but I can't say that I witnessed any, with only one exception. One day I did see this one particular asshole make fun of another kid of Vietnamese descent for the way he looked and talked. This is the same asshole that only two years prior I had hit twice in rapid succession in his left eye for harassing me and physically trying to provoke me; fortunately, I had standing permission from the teacher to do it because she knew how much of an asshole he was and that the impotent school district wouldn't let her do anything about him. He said he'd wait in the parking lot for me after school, which he didn't show, likely because there was a large [multi-ethnic, btw] group of my fellow JROTC cadets backing me.

In my professional life, that's another story. I've witnessed blatant favoritism by a certain ethnic minority supervisor toward someone of same said minority. I've been discriminated against and verbally assaulted for being "white". I have a feeling, but I can't prove it, that I've lost job opportunities to equal or lesser qualified persons because of "diversity" quotas. However, I've also seen "white" supervisors appear to discriminate against minority employees, and I've heard employees of majority and minority ethnic groups make disparaging remarks about other's ethnicities, religions, and sexual orientation. Virtually all of them were in age groups 7+ years older than me.

My conclusion based on my personal experiences: Though racism may still exist within the younger generation, it's not as bad as that of previous generations, and that's an improvement. But the problem for the most part is the individuals, not the groups.

First off, "institutionalized racism" can be used to describe the social attitudes that continue to produce racists in the younger generations

Second, there are no such things as minority quotas.

Thirdly institutionalized racism still applies to discrimination against whites.

Fourthly, focusing on just individuals who are racists can ignore what is causing the individuals to have racist attitudes.

All of this, with an expansion on 'institutionalized racism':

For most of their history, black Americans were unable to inherit wealth, leaving them at a huge disadvantage today which cannot be overcome in a single generation. That's institutionalized racism.

Job applicants with names that 'sound black' are significantly less likely to be hired than job applicants with names that 'sound white', all qualifications being equal. That's institutionalized racism.

Poor urban areas that predominately house people of color are less likely to provide safe and adequate schools, generally pay teachers less (attracting teachers who are not always highly qualified), and less likely to offer students educational opportunities or have college recruiting. That's institutionalized racism.

From my experiences, I'm going to have to call bull$#!+ on all of it.

OE:
1) It's still by choice, you don't have to be racist just because the people you grew up around were. I'm proof of that.
2) That's just straight up ignorance. Larger organizations want to be seen as "diverse", which means that they have to have a certain percentage of minorities to be able to claim it.
3) Name one place where it operationally is true.
4) People have racist attitudes because they choose to as part of their world view. Every individual human being is responsible for their own. Everyone has a choice in what they think and believe.

Ryadin:
1) I had $50 and the clothes on my back when I left home. I'm not saying I'm rich now, but I'm sure as hell not poor either. And I don't take a dime in aid from the federal, state, or local government.
2) It's been shown throughout history that what a child is named has an influence over how they will be in life. Also, consider that a name that is seen as awkward may be more of an issue than the race of the person who holds it? Who wants to interview an applicant when they're only going to look like a douchebag to the applicant when they go to interview them? That's personal pride, not racism.
3a) The whole public school system is inadequate.
3b) States control the teachers' pay, area has nothing to do with it.
3cI) Educational opportunities are supposed to be for those who express ability and drive. I'll concede that some of that has to do with the teachers; if I had had teachers that would have pushed me, I would have done far better than I have. But I'll also refer that back to the issue of the individual. I had a precious few teachers that made a difference, but most were entirely forgettable.
3cII) College recruiting? Are you serious? That's only for athletes. I know people who went to college on athletic scholarships that can't effectively write on a 6th grade level. You APPLY to colleges - you have to pursue them, they don't pursue you unless you can make them money.

[Koedijk]

Where I live(Sweden) it was some racism and such but mostly muslim on non-muslim, but that was only highschool.