Penguton wrote:Aegair wrote:Penguton wrote:Aegair wrote:Penguton wrote:It seems to me that this debate is really simple. The woman gave consent for the act of sex on that one night occasion. Once you've given consent you can't decided, days later, that you don't anymore. If that was the case, divorces would be much uglier. "I know I was married to him for 10 years, but I no longer consent to the sex! He raped me for 10 years!!"
She wasn't hurt in any way mental or physical, so she is not a victim of fraud or rape or anything.
So if you pretended to be someone's boyfriend, had sex with her in a back alley and legged it you didn't rape her? Even though she only did it because she thought you was someone else?
Such a highly infeasible situation, but yeah she wouldn't have been raped. She was incredibly stupid, but not raped.
But she didn't give consent, to you, to have sex with her, and wouldn't have if she knew it was you, and not her boyfriend. Point is: Consent wasn't given to you. Likewise in the case of this thread, consent wasn't given to the Man in question, consent was given to the Man the Man pretended to be.
You give consent to a person, not the thought, or idea, of a person. The woman in the alley gave consent to the man the alley, whether or not he was who he said he was. Same deal with the actual situation, the woman gave consent to the arab man she slept with.
Put another way, she gave consent to a physical person, not her "thought" or "idea" of the person.
The physical person she consented to wasn't there in one case, and didn't exist in the other.