Was Jesus a Communist?

[Manahakatouki]

If Jesus is a communist, I may as well be a nerd living in my mother's basem...Crap...

[Georgism]

Jesus was a Libertarian, who believed in The Free Market, Family Values and who smoked a hell of a lot of weed.

i think it'd be more likely he took opium.
or sniffed glue. you know what those carpenters are like.

He probably injected himself with small amounts of molten gold each day.

You know how those Jews are.

[Class Warhair]

After watching some religious crap, it seems that Jesus hated the rich and loved the poor. To me, it seems that Jesus constantly stated that the rich had no power over the poor. Jesus even said himself:
"It's very hard for a rich man to get into Heaven. It's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle."
This says to me that unless you're poor, you're going to Hell. Thoughts?

NOTE: PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A RELIGION DISCUSSION!

how can you not have this thread be about religion when in the very first sentence of your OP you say "religious crap"?

... and then proceed to mention Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Heaven, A Camel, and Hell ?

[Panzerjaeger]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

YOU LIE!

[Caninope]

Nope, he wasn't at all.

Advocating free-will charity is quite a bit different than"no-state" state enforced wealth redistribution.

And the notion that rich people are potentially less likely to enter the kingdom of God is not communist. It merely demonstrates the truth behind the corrupting allure of wealth, and the amassing of wealth.

One can be rich, and still a Christian (that is to say, a follower of Jesus).

No, one can be rich and call oneself a Christian. Not the same thing.

No, you can be rich and still be a Christian. It just becomes harder as the more wordly riches you have, the harder it is to give your soul to the Lord. That doesn't make them mutually exclusive.

No, you can't. If you're rich, you're not a Christian, you're lying to yourself and paying lip-service to Christ.

Jesus was pretty explicit about giving away your wealth. If you have wealth, you're placing your temporal comfort above Jesus' will - and that means you're no real Christian.

Do not falsely equate being rich with having worldly comforts.

Don't pretend that that would be a false equation.

They aren't mutually inclusive. I know a rich man who lives a modest lifestyle, in his 30 year old home, and puts his pants legs on one at a time like the rest of us.

You either know a rich man, or one who lives a modest lifestyle. They are mutually exclusive.

Even if your rich man lived in a cave and wore only skins, the huge stacks of currency waiting in some corner for the whim to take him, mean he is not living a 'modest lifestyle'.

He's also obviously NOT doing what Christians are supposed to do, so I hope he doesn't claim to be one.

Once again, stop falsely equating rich with being living luxuriously. I could be a hermit but still have 1 billion dollars in stock.

Then I'm both, am I not?

[Geniasis]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

[Grave_n_idle]

On the other hand, if those people don't actually follow the Christ, they're wearing a deceptive label.

No, it's not deceptive...

Meh. It's pulling away from the topic anyway, so I'm not going to keep responding, over and over. It clearly is deceptive for exactly the reason I just said. That's fine, they can lie to themselves if they wish. They can even tell me they are Christians, so long as they don't expect me to believe it.

[Grave_n_idle]

Once again, stop falsely equating rich with being living luxuriously. I could be a hermit but still have 1 billion dollars in stock.

Then I'm both, am I not?

No.

And I posted in another response - I'm not going to keep chasing the train after it leaves the rails.

[Rolamec]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Oh lord...

[Solyhniya]

Christianity and Socialism are inextricably linked.

Linked, yes - I think that centuries of Christian thought have been a prerequisite of Socialist theories. But this doesn't make Christianity a part of Socialism.

No, it's the other way round (I probably should have mentioned that).

[Southern Patriots]

Jesus was a capitalist mormon, not a communist Jew.

Check your facts, people.

[Panzerjaeger]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

[Geniasis]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

[Panzerjaeger]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

[Farnhamia]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

BABY KILLER!
A possible surfeit of information there, 'Jaeger. And one wonders, if the Continent is not known to man, can there be men from it, holy or unholy?

[Panzerjaeger]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

BABY KILLER!
A possible surfeit of information there, 'Jaeger. And one wonders, if the Continent is not known to man, can there be men from it, holy or unholy?

YOU LIE!
It might be possible he was not a man at all he could possibly have been a Holy Lemar.

[Farnhamia]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

BABY KILLER!
A possible surfeit of information there, 'Jaeger. And one wonders, if the Continent is not known to man, can there be men from it, holy or unholy?

YOU LIE!
It might be possible he was not a man at all he could possibly have been a Holy Lemar.

BABY KILLER!
Lemar? or lemur?

[Panzerjaeger]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

BABY KILLER!
A possible surfeit of information there, 'Jaeger. And one wonders, if the Continent is not known to man, can there be men from it, holy or unholy?

YOU LIE!
It might be possible he was not a man at all he could possibly have been a Holy Lemar.

BABY KILLER!
Lemar? or lemur?

YOU LIE!
Crap how did I do that. Lemur it is.

[Farnhamia]

Eh, it was pretty weak. It was more like kicking a bunch of loan sharks out of your parent's house.

Weak? Jesus burned down the synagogue, lynched the Money Changers and then promoted his dear Führer Father as the ultimate authority. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

Satire?

He overturned their tables and yelled at them. Twas no lynching, nor was there fire.

You obviously have not read the Good Word then. May I interest you in a Panzerjaeger-Mussolini Translation of the Bible? It is most excellent with footnotes done by Hitler.

Oh, I have the Living Bible. That's the one where Jesus fights the pirates. Well, they weren't real pirates. It was just old man McCreedy trying to scare people away from his silver mine. And well, he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that pesky Nazarene.

Ah the Heretical Bible. Mine is touched by a Holy Man from some random continent not known to man.

BABY KILLER!
A possible surfeit of information there, 'Jaeger. And one wonders, if the Continent is not known to man, can there be men from it, holy or unholy?

YOU LIE!
It might be possible he was not a man at all he could possibly have been a Holy Lemar.

BABY KILLER!
Lemar? or lemur?

YOU LIE!
Crap how did I do that. Lemur it is.

BABY KILLER!
I was amazed that there actually is a person named "Lemar." I don't know why, but I was.

[Caninope]

Once again, stop falsely equating rich with being living luxuriously. I could be a hermit but still have 1 billion dollars in stock.

Then I'm both, am I not?

No.

And I posted in another response - I'm not going to keep chasing the train after it leaves the rails.

Maybe we need to ask ourselves a question: what constitutes rich?

[Herskerstad]

Being the prince of peace I would suspect he is a monarchist. That does however not mean monarchs can be quite population-friendly in their reforms. I mean, Napoleon easily crushes any communist hybrid so far in terms of advancing the quality of life and economical state/welfare of a nation.

That being said some wealthy men who have a lot of money don't really spend it like Nero did. So I would suspect wealthy, yet generous men to be just fine in the moral sense.

[The Alma Mater]

thats what im thinking but .....for all *I* know some of those late OT books might use a different word. they are pretty greekish.

Christos, Messiah, Annointed One... different languages saying the same thing

no i dont think they really mean the same thing at all.

Why not ?
Messiah* is Hebrew for annointed one.
Christos** is Greek for annointed one and the way the Greeks themselves translated Messiah.

* Yesyes, in Hebrew writing the word looks different.
** Yesyes, just like the Jews the Greek used their own alphabet.

[Yenke-Bin]

Not going to read the whole thread,but I will say absolutely 100% that Jesus is not a Communist...Nor a socialist. Jesus would never be those things.


Nor would he be a Republican, Conservative, Libertarian, Democrat, centrist, etc.

Jesus didn't come to play around in the insignificant, human created ideologies. What are they compared to His Kingdom? He came to initiate a new way, and not fit into any form of human social structure. He came to establish a kingdom far more powerful than anything we can create, or even fathom. These earthy kingdoms focus on controlling men and women through power and coercion. He came to rule through the hearts of people. Love is his economic system, and righteous justice is his rule of law.

[Qwcasd]

More like an anrchoa-socialist, by my understanding of the term. Definably far left.