Was Jesus a Communist?

[Rolamec]

No, he was Jewish.

[The Alma Mater]

No, he was Jewish.

Jews CAN be communist

[Caninope]

Nope, he wasn't at all.

Advocating free-will charity is quite a bit different than"no-state" state enforced wealth redistribution.

And the notion that rich people are potentially less likely to enter the kingdom of God is not communist. It merely demonstrates the truth behind the corrupting allure of wealth, and the amassing of wealth.

One can be rich, and still a Christian (that is to say, a follower of Jesus).

No, one can be rich and call oneself a Christian. Not the same thing.

No, you can be rich and still be a Christian. It just becomes harder as the more wordly riches you have, the harder it is to give your soul to the Lord. That doesn't make them mutually exclusive.

No, you can't. If you're rich, you're not a Christian, you're lying to yourself and paying lip-service to Christ.

Jesus was pretty explicit about giving away your wealth. If you have wealth, you're placing your temporal comfort above Jesus' will - and that means you're no real Christian.

Do not falsely equate being rich with having worldly comforts.

[Allbeama]

No. The Jesus of the Bible was an ascetic - one who seeks to live simply, without the distractions of goods and ownership, that he may perfect himself spiritually. When asked how to be a good folower of him, he says to do likewise, to give away your worldly goods and follow the ascetic path.
A good communist wants everyone to have equal access to everything. Jesus wanted to have nothing.

That is an interesting point. Sounds like he would have been friends with Lao Tzu or Buddha. Wait a minute...I think that's been said before somewhere...

[Okijima Rulz]

Liberal, yes. Communist? No.

[Sebally-Orwitskia]

I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.

you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?

[Meryuma]

If he had an ideology, I bet it would be considered anarcho-pacifism, with collectivist elements.

[Tyrandis]

jesus and the disciples were indeed leeches who preached a morality of death and suffering like every other mystic that came before him and since

[The Alma Mater]

Liberal, yes. Communist? No.

Let us ask a different question then.

If Jesus was a US citizen, what would he vote ?
Certainly not republican, but I doubt democrat. So which fringe party ?

[Ceannairceach]

Your misinterpreting the quote. He didn't hate them, he just meant they would sacrifice less to get into heaven because they had more. No hate their.

Also, I think Jesus was more of a left leaning centrist. But that's just me.

[Wales64]

I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.

you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?

He didn't just hang out with one prostitute. He hung out with many. But this was well intentioned, wouldn't you hang out with the people of worst situations rather than best if you were trying to give hope and change to the world?

[Pancakes Wrath]

I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.

you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?

It isn't anywhere in the Bible. IIRC a sixth-century pope claimed she was a prostitute for some reason.

[The Adrian Empire]

No, Jesus was not a communist, he occupies a curious place, Jesus never condemns the businessmen, though he is angered over the selling of sacrifices on temple grounds one can assume this was less a showing of hatred towards business then a anger over the corruption of the Jewish High Priests.

Jesus believed in personal charity, not state instituted, but he is hardly advocating the destruction of trade in total, he never rails against profit, I do believe that somewhere he even lauds it, he never rejects property, though he believes one should limit what they own.

Jesus very well could have been an anarchist, but a communist, no.

[Ceannairceach]

I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.

you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?

It isn't anywhere in the Bible. IIRC a sixth-century pope claimed she was a prostitute for some reason.

It was to make the female the weaker and more corrupt sex, so that it makes the church hold power over them. Simple Christian ways of medieval times.

But really, those would make up his communist buddies to commune(?) with.

[Sebally-Orwitskia]

I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.

you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?

Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?

It isn't anywhere in the Bible. IIRC a sixth-century pope claimed she was a prostitute for some reason.

Yes, pope...whathisname, connected Mary Magdalene and The prostitute in the rabbi's house to show that even if you're considered scum by people you can be a whole new person and be alongside jesus.

But Mary Magdalene wasn't a prositute, the reason she was with Jesus was because she was exorcised of seven demons living in her. >.>

[Grave_n_idle]

Nope, he wasn't at all.

Advocating free-will charity is quite a bit different than"no-state" state enforced wealth redistribution.

And the notion that rich people are potentially less likely to enter the kingdom of God is not communist. It merely demonstrates the truth behind the corrupting allure of wealth, and the amassing of wealth.

One can be rich, and still a Christian (that is to say, a follower of Jesus).

No, one can be rich and call oneself a Christian. Not the same thing.

No, you can be rich and still be a Christian. It just becomes harder as the more wordly riches you have, the harder it is to give your soul to the Lord. That doesn't make them mutually exclusive.

No, you can't. If you're rich, you're not a Christian, you're lying to yourself and paying lip-service to Christ.

Jesus was pretty explicit about giving away your wealth. If you have wealth, you're placing your temporal comfort above Jesus' will - and that means you're no real Christian.

Do not falsely equate being rich with having worldly comforts.

Don't pretend that that would be a false equation.

[Rolamec]

Actually Jesus was a superstar.

[Sanctus Angelus]

lol at how the commies dont want to be associated with Jesus, even though they have the same message.

what?

[Mikoyan-Guryevich]

yes. He gave everything away for free and insisted the rich give all they had if they wanted to follow him.

I give decent amounts of money to the Red Cross and the Fred Hollows Foundation. I also drive a BMW and refuse to give any amount of money to the homeless on the street. Does that make me a communist.

[Neo Mittanni]

After watching some religious crap, it seems that Jesus hated the rich and loved the poor. To me, it seems that Jesus constantly stated that the rich had no power over the poor. Jesus even said himself:
"It's very hard for a rich man to get into Heaven. It's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle."
This says to me that unless you're poor, you're going to Hell. Thoughts?

NOTE: PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A RELIGION DISCUSSION!

How are you sully the name of the Good Lord Chuck Norris Jesus Christ!
May he round-house kick you straight to Hell!

[Rambhutan]

More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.

[Johz]

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

The Bible clearly says, with God, all things are possible. The real problem is not wealth, but that men let wealth get between them and God.

I read this post and I really thought that we now had a poster on here called 'The Holy Bible'. It was a scary moment.

[Johz]

More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.

He did do the whole healing-the-sick-and-feeding-the-masses thing. And the saving-their-souls thing. So it wasn't really scrounging.

[Sebally-Orwitskia]

More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.

Jews had welfare at that time?

[Risottia]

More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.

Jews had welfare at that time?

Yes, the Romans brought that. Together with aqueducts, roads, and the public donkey.