Pope calls for UN reform.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

The pope needs to be quiet

I am the pope and i find your lack of faith saddening.
But you can save yourself, by sending me $500 once every month, i would pray for your immortal soul then. and maybe open some new churches in your name if you like?

[Surote]

The pope needs to be quiet

I am the pope and i find your lack of faith saddening.
But you can save yourself, by sending me $500 once every month, i would pray for your immortal soul then. and maybe open some new churches in your name if you like?

No

[Parthenon]

It may not be possible for human to ever know if there is a god, but when a guy who is guilty of promoting genocide insists that the UN needs to have more power to combat injustice you can know one thing for sure: if there is a God, she's got a wicked sense of humor.

Benedict XVI promoted genocide?

[Greed and Death]

The pope needs to be quiet

I am the pope and i find your lack of faith saddening.
But you can save yourself, by sending me $500 once every month, i would pray for your immortal soul then. and maybe open some new churches in your name if you like?

Funny you mention that the Vatican is running a deficit and there is speculation they might go bankrupt.
So this whole UN speech, might just be the beginning of a donation drive.

[Treznor]

It may not be possible for human to ever know if there is a god, but when a guy who is guilty of promoting genocide insists that the UN needs to have more power to combat injustice you can know one thing for sure: if there is a God, she's got a wicked sense of humor.

Benedict XVI promoted genocide?

Hitler Youth, Class of 1942.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

No

oh, well if you're sure. You only need ask and i will supply the service.

[Parthenon]

It may not be possible for human to ever know if there is a god, but when a guy who is guilty of promoting genocide insists that the UN needs to have more power to combat injustice you can know one thing for sure: if there is a God, she's got a wicked sense of humor.

Benedict XVI promoted genocide?

Hitler Youth, Class of 1942.

My German teacher in highschool was in the Hitler Youth, it was the 1930s equivalent of the Boy Scouts in Germany, not comparable to the SA or SS.

[Greed and Death]

It may not be possible for human to ever know if there is a god, but when a guy who is guilty of promoting genocide insists that the UN needs to have more power to combat injustice you can know one thing for sure: if there is a God, she's got a wicked sense of humor.

Benedict XVI promoted genocide?

Hitler Youth, Class of 1942.

Being forced like all other German youth at the time to be in the Hitler youth, is not really promoting genocide.
to which he resisted going to the meetings
http://bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-element ... _nazis.htm
Then when drafted into the German army he deserted.

[Dakini]

I'm not sure why the Vatican would actually want social equality. I mean, on one hand, people who have the short end of the stick tend to be more religious and trying to help them makes you more popular with these people. On the other hand, increasing social equality will decrease the number of adherents, which would be bad for the Vatican. There's the slim chance that the pope actually wants to help people, but given the policy of lying to people in AIDS infested countries about condoms, this does not seem likely.

[Greed and Death]

I'm not sure why the Vatican would actually want social equality. I mean, on one hand, people who have the short end of the stick tend to be more religious and trying to help them makes you more popular with these people. On the other hand, increasing social equality will decrease the number of adherents, which would be bad for the Vatican. There's the slim chance that the pope actually wants to help people, but given the policy of lying to people in AIDS infested countries about condoms, this does not seem likely.

He is more focused on economic rather then social. Has a lot to do with the hot bed of Catholicism is in Latin America and those areas are poor. To which his catholic authority can not get those rich protestants to the north to help his people out.
More likely he wants the left to give him money, to help people, because he is running a deficit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD997O8681

Then use the money for his normal programs, excommunicating the undesirables.

[Treznor]

Hitler Youth, Class of 1942.

My German teacher in highschool was in the Hitler Youth, it was the 1930s equivalent of the Boy Scouts in Germany, not comparable to the SA or SS.

Nazi sympathizer! Somebody fetch the tar and feathers!

Yes, I'm kidding. There's no proof Ratzinger was a true believer during the Hitler Youth. I'm more interested in his tenure as Cardinal when he made a name for himself by attacking non-Catholic churches as "deficient." Even more interesting, his role in the pedophile scandals indicates a political hypocrisy that would make Mark Foley green with envy.

There are lots of reasons to disregard Ratzinger as a hypocrite. I'm glad he's speaking out for more than his own self-interest this time, but that still remains to be seen.

[Dakini]

I'm not sure why the Vatican would actually want social equality. I mean, on one hand, people who have the short end of the stick tend to be more religious and trying to help them makes you more popular with these people. On the other hand, increasing social equality will decrease the number of adherents, which would be bad for the Vatican. There's the slim chance that the pope actually wants to help people, but given the policy of lying to people in AIDS infested countries about condoms, this does not seem likely.

He is more focused on economic rather then social. Has a lot to do with the hot bed of Catholicism is in Latin America and those areas are poor. To which his catholic authority can not get those rich protestants to the north to help his people out.
More likely he wants the left to give him money, to help people, because he is running a deficit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD997O8681

Then use the money for his normal programs, excommunicating the undesirables.

I wasn't just referring to social inequity. If South America becomes more prosperous and this prosperity extends to the poor as well as the rich, then the formerly poor Catholics will become richer, more well-off Catholics and as a whole, they (or their children) are more likely to be educated and less likely to be religious. It may take a generation or two, but you'll start to see the same sort of decline in religious adherence as in Europe and North America.

[Greed and Death]

I'm not sure why the Vatican would actually want social equality. I mean, on one hand, people who have the short end of the stick tend to be more religious and trying to help them makes you more popular with these people. On the other hand, increasing social equality will decrease the number of adherents, which would be bad for the Vatican. There's the slim chance that the pope actually wants to help people, but given the policy of lying to people in AIDS infested countries about condoms, this does not seem likely.

He is more focused on economic rather then social. Has a lot to do with the hot bed of Catholicism is in Latin America and those areas are poor. To which his catholic authority can not get those rich protestants to the north to help his people out.
More likely he wants the left to give him money, to help people, because he is running a deficit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD997O8681

Then use the money for his normal programs, excommunicating the undesirables.

I wasn't just referring to social inequity. If South America becomes more prosperous and this prosperity extends to the poor as well as the rich, then the formerly poor Catholics will become richer, more well-off Catholics and as a whole, they (or their children) are more likely to be educated and less likely to be religious. It may take a generation or two, but you'll start to see the same sort of decline in religious adherence as in Europe and North America.

At the same time Europeans donate a lot of money.
So does he want people who follow him.
Or does he want people who do not follow him yet send checks.

[Parthenon]

I'm not sure why the Vatican would actually want social equality. I mean, on one hand, people who have the short end of the stick tend to be more religious and trying to help them makes you more popular with these people. On the other hand, increasing social equality will decrease the number of adherents, which would be bad for the Vatican. There's the slim chance that the pope actually wants to help people, but given the policy of lying to people in AIDS infested countries about condoms, this does not seem likely.

He is more focused on economic rather then social. Has a lot to do with the hot bed of Catholicism is in Latin America and those areas are poor. To which his catholic authority can not get those rich protestants to the north to help his people out.
More likely he wants the left to give him money, to help people, because he is running a deficit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD997O8681

Then use the money for his normal programs, excommunicating the undesirables.

I wasn't just referring to social inequity. If South America becomes more prosperous and this prosperity extends to the poor as well as the rich, then the formerly poor Catholics will become richer, more well-off Catholics and as a whole, they (or their children) are more likely to be educated and less likely to be religious. It may take a generation or two, but you'll start to see the same sort of decline in religious adherence as in Europe and North America.

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

[Greed and Death]

He is more focused on economic rather then social. Has a lot to do with the hot bed of Catholicism is in Latin America and those areas are poor. To which his catholic authority can not get those rich protestants to the north to help his people out.
More likely he wants the left to give him money, to help people, because he is running a deficit.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... gD997O8681

Then use the money for his normal programs, excommunicating the undesirables.

I wasn't just referring to social inequity. If South America becomes more prosperous and this prosperity extends to the poor as well as the rich, then the formerly poor Catholics will become richer, more well-off Catholics and as a whole, they (or their children) are more likely to be educated and less likely to be religious. It may take a generation or two, but you'll start to see the same sort of decline in religious adherence as in Europe and North America.

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

Most of whom use condoms and don't sweat it if they have premarital sex in college.

[Treznor]

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

There are even Christians with Ph.Ds but that doesn't invalidate the fact that the more educated people are, the less religious they tend to be. So you'll just have to deal with the fact that we use this to advocate as much education for the entire world as is feasible.

[Parthenon]

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

There are even Christians with Ph.Ds but that doesn't invalidate the fact that the more educated people are, the less religious they tend to be. So you'll just have to deal with the fact that we use this to advocate as much education for the entire world as is feasible.

86% of the world is religious, of which 33% are Christian. Show me some damn proof of your claim that more education results in being less religious when looking at the demographic of the entire world and not just skewed data from a single nation.

[Angleter]

The pope needs to be quiet

I am the pope and i find your lack of faith saddening.
But you can save yourself, by sending me $500 once every month, i would pray for your immortal soul then. and maybe open some new churches in your name if you like?

By 'pope' does that happen to mean Pope of the Holy Church of Bono and RaptorJesus?

[Galloism]

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

There are even Christians with Ph.Ds but that doesn't invalidate the fact that the more educated people are, the less religious they tend to be. So you'll just have to deal with the fact that we use this to advocate as much education for the entire world as is feasible.

[Citation needed]

[Call to power]

yes lets listen to the man with the big hat instead of these silly professionals you hear about!

and boo to the pope I call lunch

[Greed and Death]

yes lets listen to the man with the big hat instead of these silly professionals you hear about!

and boo to the pope I call lunch

you mean the atlas shrugged lady ?

[Jimanistan]

Finally, something useful out of the Catholic Church.

As an occaisional attendent of Mass, I'd like to hear more about actual issues and less about the damned aborted babies. It's the only political issue the Church ever beings up. Seldom much on poverty, at least in the political sense, and never anything about Social Justice.

[Mirkana]

Kudos to him. I'm glad to see the Catholic Church involved in this sort of thing.

[Gift-of-god]

Intelligent people 'less likely to believe in God'

Anyways, I get the feeling that the Catholic Church has already alienated too many progressive communities and progressive members of their own communities to make much a difference in the developed world, but in Latin America and other places around the globe, this may give some political clout to those more progressive Catholic institutions, like the Jesuits, and less to the more conservative Catholic groups like the Opus Dei.

[Treznor]

Give it a damn break already, there are countless educated Christians.

There are even Christians with Ph.Ds but that doesn't invalidate the fact that the more educated people are, the less religious they tend to be. So you'll just have to deal with the fact that we use this to advocate as much education for the entire world as is feasible.

86% of the world is religious, of which 33% are Christian. Show me some damn proof of your claim that more education results in being less religious when looking at the demographic of the entire world and not just skewed data from a single nation.

I find this to be thought-provoking. I found the quote from Dr. Dawkins to be most interesting: "The only website I could find that claimed to list 'Nobel Prize-winning Christians' came up with six, out of a total of several hundred scientific Nobelists. Of these six, it turned out that four were not Nobel Prize-winners at all; and at least one, to my certain knowledge, is a non-believer who attends church for purely social reasons."

Hey, you don't have to believe it. That being the case, you shouldn't have a problem with an increased focus on education, right?