Wolffbaden wrote:-I really don't care- Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.
I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.
In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction. Relatively speaking.. unknown.
Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?
Can we get a source?
Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.
I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).
Nothing biased about that reply.
A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.
You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?
I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*
You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?
Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*
I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.
Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.
Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".
Are you saying I'm biased against myself?
I'm not getting what you're saying.
Yes, actually. It's a fairly common thing, really. You know a fairly common form of racism is black people who are racist against black people, yes? It's usually pretty mild and pretty rationalized, but it happens more commonly than you'd think.
The difference being that religious preference is voluntary.
Which still doesn't change the "I'm one of the good ones" mentality.
EDIT: I'm sorry. There is clearly no bias in calling one the "intelligentsia" and the other "average and common". Go on about your day. I'm sorry to suggest a bias. And you're clearly not considering yourself one of the good ones. I was just kidding about that. Clearly, we can agree that you're average and common.
Wolffbaden wrote:-I really don't care- Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.
I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.
In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction. Relatively speaking.. unknown.
Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?
Can we get a source?
Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.
I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).
Nothing biased about that reply.
A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.
You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?
I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*
You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?
Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*
I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.
Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.
Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".
Are you saying I'm biased against myself?
I'm not getting what you're saying.
Yes, actually. It's a fairly common thing, really. You know a fairly common form of racism is black people who are racist against black people, yes? It's usually pretty mild and pretty rationalized, but it happens more commonly than you'd think.
The difference being that religious preference is voluntary.
Which still doesn't change the "I'm one of the good ones" mentality.
EDIT: I'm sorry. There is clearly no bias in calling one the "intelligentsia" and the other "average and common". Go on about your day. I'm sorry to suggest a bias. And you're clearly not considering yourself one of the good ones. I was just kidding about that. Clearly, we can agree that you're average and common.
I say average and common because when a group makes up some 80% of the population, it does become average and commonplace. And no, I'm not average. I'm weird. Average is for losers.
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:16 pm
