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Dagnia wrote:I think you are hilarious. Humor was your intent wasn't it?

On a more serious note, I think there may be some truth to that. As an atheist myself, I have had major problems with relationships. A big part of it I think is that good relationships are based on common values. There are many different types of atheism, from Ayn Rand's Objectivism (my own greatest intellectual influence), various types of Existentialism, a number of communist, socialist and anarchist philosophies that go beyond mere politics, Buddhism (technically an atheistic religion) and too many other philosophies to count. There are so few of us and so many types of atheism that finding a partner with both your value system as well as the more shallow things (looks, personal habits) is almost impossible. Christianity, whether it is Catholic, a hundred different Protestant denominations, a hundred different Eastern Orthodox denominations, Mormon, is all basically the same philosophy and value system. Christians have their values prefabricated for them, while atheists, thinking for themselves (for the most part, though I do know some people who follow the words of Marx, Nietzsche and even Ayn Rand with the same blind religious zeal as a Christian or Muslim), may not come to the same conclusion about some pretty fundamental things in life, even when they believe in the same basic philosophy.

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships

The Sentenial Empire wrote:Im christian and even I'm offended by this...ugh

Logasiri wrote:Wouldn't an Atheist have a stronger relationship, taking into account they are more loyal to their spouse than a deity?

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Either I just found the Omega Troll, or Fred Phelps is on NS.

The Sentenial Empire wrote:Im christian and even I'm offended by this...ugh

SaintB wrote:I'm just gonna sit here and savor the moment before I inform people who lack a sense of humor of the truth.

Risottia wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships

YOU LIE!

I'm an Atheist and I have the strongest personal relationship possible with my various sex androids.
And Statan, of course. That is the State Devil. I worship him and we make the beast with two backs every night.

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

Dream Control and Food wrote:ok HAHA my wife has a small penis. so?

Kotlas wrote:

The Sentenial Empire wrote:Im christian and even I'm offended by this...ugh

Look no further for proof of my previous post, Lacky!

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now. Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked

.

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now? Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked.

Lithatrius wrote:Hmm, my parents are both staunch atheists, have been married for 22 years, and their relationship is as strong as it was 25 years ago (when they first met)

Gauntleted Fist wrote:The amount of people taking you seriously seems to be increasing as you make new threads, RNOPL.

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now. Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked

.

You're one of the bottom quartile ones that truly evoke wonder. You respond piece by piece, so you did technically "read" the OP...and you still don't get. It doesn't even help to remind you to read the OP, because in the least penetrating sense, you sort of did.

What if I were to suggest to you that your self-righteous and ostensibly informed response missed something critical? Could you truly consider that? Could you slow down and think? Even if you could, would you? Will you?

Try. Give me something about people to believe in.

Maurepas wrote:

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now? Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked.

I told myself that I wasn't going to do something like this cause it felt like spamming the thread, as unfortunately it's usually filled by it.

But, really? I mean, I can understand just reading the title or the first line and still not getting it...But, you really dissected the whole post!? I mean, damn,

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:

Risottia wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships

YOU LIE!

I'm an Atheist and I have the strongest personal relationship possible with my various sex androids.
And Statan, of course. That is the State Devil. I worship him and we make the beast with two backs every night.

Oh Statan, yea Statan, Statan you're my squeeze.

I know a Raelian guy who frequently tries to console my various miseries by informing me that sex androids will soon be available. Seriously.

Maurepas wrote:

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now? Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked.

I told myself that I wasn't going to do something like this cause it felt like spamming the thread, as unfortunately it's usually filled by it.

But, really? I mean, I can understand just reading the title or the first line and still not getting it...But, you really dissected the whole post!? I mean, damn,

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:

Logasiri wrote:

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:One of the many ways that Atheism is leading to the degradation of Western civilization and the decline of humanity in general is that Atheists have weak personal relationships, as opposed to the abiding and adamantine bonds between loving Christians.

I don't see how Atheist's marrying is "degrading" western civilization as you say.

For example, Christ commands us to love our neighbors, so we do.

Tell that to the Atheists, Secularists, Homosexuals, and pretty much everyone who is not a Christian.

Christian history is replete with affable coexistence, and to this day, there is not a single border between Christian nations that requires armed guard. From Northern Ireland to the Maginot Line, from Germany to Poland, from Mexico to America, the peace of Christ has rained a fiery barrage of tranquility down upon the blacked-out fortified bunkers of our neighborhoods.

American Border Patrol, UK Border Agency. They are armed, ready to repel illegal aliens if violence is necessary.

But on a far more important scale, Atheists have particularly failed at the second* most important relationship available to human beings: marriage. Marriage is what brings us together, today. And for Christians, it is a sacred bond, wherein a man is commanded to love and care for his wife and she is commanded to obey and make babies for him.

Man is not commanded to do anything. It all depends on hormones. Love and care are emotions caused by hormones. The will to make babies is caused by hormones.

If either fails in this most sacrosanct of duties, Jesus stands ready to punish them with eternal burning and flaying in hell, unless they have asked Jesus to forgive their sins, in which case Jesus just puts information on their credit report resulting in denial of financing for the purchase of appliances at Sears. This results in a truly loving bond.

Is it a sin not to have sex now. Isn't that ironic as Christians are rather hostile towards the idea of sex?

You atheists have to base your marriages on the specious and tenuous connections of mutual respect, regard, attraction, and happiness in your daily lives.

EXACTLY. Jesus Christ....

Without the supernatural chains of Heaven to keep you together in an unbreakable state of matrimony, you have to maintain your relationships with nothing but simple humane consideration, self-motivated co-operation, and sinfully experimental sex.

I think it is much better that you marry because you genuinely care about the person rather than because "God" told you.

You have to decide, every day, to really care for one another, in each moment, for yourselves and for each other. We Christians, on the other hand, stay together because God will spiritually ass-ram us if we divorce. THAT'S what you base a successful relationship on.

And yet statistics show that Atheists have a much less divorce rate than Christians

I urge all of you atheists here to abandon your willful and damning rejection of God, and if you're married, your spouse should do the same. For women, persuade your man that Jesus is the only way by respectfully requesting that he read the Bible to you. For men, just tell her you're both Christians now.

Not gonna happen

*(Remember, the most important relationship is between a person and Jesus Christ, their Lord and Savior. Scripturally, the relationship between Christ and his Church is like that of a Groom to his Bride, except Christ's love doesn't taper off a few years after the wedding, becoming emotionally distant and resentful as the Church gains weight (both literal and figurative) with the heaviness of unfulfilled expectation, and eventually Christ forgets to close his IM Chat session with an old girlfriend from high school, and the Church finds it and gets really pissed off, and even though Christ wasn't having an affair with her or anything, and hadn't even really touched her, the Church is angry because its still "emotional intimacy", so then Christ gets fed up with the Church's bullshit and really does have an affair with some 24 year old goth chick who works as a paralegal. Its not like that. Probably.)

A direct relationship with you and your spouse is STRONGER. Your argument has been debunked

.

You're one of the bottom quartile ones that truly evoke wonder. You respond piece by piece, so you did technically "read" the OP...and you still don't get. It doesn't even help to remind you to read the OP, because in the least penetrating sense, you sort of did.

What if I were to suggest to you that your self-righteous and ostensibly informed response missed something critical? Could you truly consider that? Could you slow down and think? Even if you could, would you? Will you?

Try. Give me something about people to believe in.

I don't believe in 'people' as you say. That is a vast generalization. I think of it like this. I believe in my 'friends' so to speak, because they believe in me, and are not as critical of me. I do not believe in my enemies because they do not believe in my and are critical of me.

I do not believe in God because his followers do not believe in me and are critical of my skepticism and my social, political and civil beliefs. Therefore, I do no believe in him, in the sense of trust. Why would I trust someone, who I do not believe in, in my relationship? I should be able to believe in myself and believe in my girl to make it work. If I have to believe in God for it to work, it's not strong whatsoever.

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:

Gauntleted Fist wrote:The amount of people taking you seriously seems to be increasing as you make new threads, RNOPL.

Yeah, check out Shanix above, or the real champ so far, Logasiri. Seriously, its simultaneously laughable and saddening.