Why atheists have weak relationships, Christians strong ones

[Unhealthy2]

It's available free-to-air and without ads in Australia. So by comparison, the US fails.

You don't have ads on TV?

[Johz]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

[The Alma Mater]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

[Johz]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

[Picklepoo]

:palm: People like the OP, make Christianity seem bad... JUST LEAVE OTHER RELIGIONS ALONE!!! They have a reason for believing what they do!

This is exactly the appropriate response. Right on, brother.

He's an F7'er.

Yes. Yes I am.

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

[Avenio]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

[Jocabia]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

[Jocabia]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

[Whole Conviction]

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

And there are many atheists who are non-intelligentsia, not wealthy, etc. The whole 'atheists = elites' is really an inaccurate stereotype that, as far as I've been able to track it back, began with the religious right in an attempt to alienate 'good, hardworking honest Americans' from atheism, in the same way that liberals are seen as 'elites'.

[Unhealthy2]

And there are many atheists who are non-intelligentsia, not wealthy, etc. The whole 'atheists = elites' is really an inaccurate stereotype that, as far as I've been able to track it back, began with the religious right in an attempt to alienate 'good, hardworking honest Americans' from atheism, in the same way that liberals are seen as 'elites'.

Why would the religious right see being in the intellectual elite as a bad thing anyway? Isn't that the highest honor one can pay to you knowledge and capacity for critical thinking?

[Whole Conviction]

And there are many atheists who are non-intelligentsia, not wealthy, etc. The whole 'atheists = elites' is really an inaccurate stereotype that, as far as I've been able to track it back, began with the religious right in an attempt to alienate 'good, hardworking honest Americans' from atheism, in the same way that liberals are seen as 'elites'.

Why would the religious right see being in the intellectual elite as a bad thing anyway? Isn't that the highest honor one can pay to you knowledge and capacity for critical thinking?

There's a streak of anti-intellectualism and anti-elitism ... well, in the human race in general, but particular in america. Look at the last election cycle -- Obama was seen as 'out of touch with the common American' because he ordered a fancy coffee, or drank beer from a microbrewery. Calling atheists' intellectual elites' is an attempt to alienate them from the heartland, because 'good, down-home honest hard-working Americans are Christians!'

[Caninope]

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

And there are many atheists who are non-intelligentsia, not wealthy, etc. The whole 'atheists = elites' is really an inaccurate stereotype that, as far as I've been able to track it back, began with the religious right in an attempt to alienate 'good, hardworking honest Americans' from atheism, in the same way that liberals are seen as 'elites'.

A quick trip to Wiki show that higher educational attainments and higher incomes correlate to the higher levels of atheism.It also shows that scientists tend to be more atheistic, agnostic, or non-religious. I shouldn't say they're made up ONLY of the elite, the elite just tend to be atheistic much more.

[Caninope]

And there are many atheists who are non-intelligentsia, not wealthy, etc. The whole 'atheists = elites' is really an inaccurate stereotype that, as far as I've been able to track it back, began with the religious right in an attempt to alienate 'good, hardworking honest Americans' from atheism, in the same way that liberals are seen as 'elites'.

Why would the religious right see being in the intellectual elite as a bad thing anyway? Isn't that the highest honor one can pay to you knowledge and capacity for critical thinking?

There's a streak of anti-intellectualism and anti-elitism ... well, in the human race in general, but particular in america. Look at the last election cycle -- Obama was seen as 'out of touch with the common American' because he ordered a fancy coffee, or drank beer from a microbrewery. Calling atheists' intellectual elites' is an attempt to alienate them from the heartland, because 'good, down-home honest hard-working Americans are Christians!'

I just hate it when the elites pretend to know what the common man wants. We see the same thing, except by the opposite side concerning CEO's.

[Unhealthy2]

There's a streak of anti-intellectualism and anti-elitism ... well, in the human race in general, but particular in america. Look at the last election cycle -- Obama was seen as 'out of touch with the common American' because he ordered a fancy coffee, or drank beer from a microbrewery. Calling atheists' intellectual elites' is an attempt to alienate them from the heartland, because 'good, down-home honest hard-working Americans are Christians!'

So they think it's good to be dumb? How does that begin to make sense?

[Jocabia]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.

Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".

[Class Warhair]

It's available free-to-air and without ads in Australia. So by comparison, the US fails.

You don't have ads on TV?

Sure, on commercial TV. But there are two full channels of publicly funded TV (Australian Broadcasting Corporation). The Daily Show and Colbert Report are on one of those. There's another part-time channel which shows mostly stuff for teens, also without ads.

Like PBS but better funded. Like the BBC, but with more commercial competition allowed. Pretty good imho.

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

There's a streak of anti-intellectualism and anti-elitism ... well, in the human race in general, but particular in america. Look at the last election cycle -- Obama was seen as 'out of touch with the common American' because he ordered a fancy coffee, or drank beer from a microbrewery. Calling atheists' intellectual elites' is an attempt to alienate them from the heartland, because 'good, down-home honest hard-working Americans are Christians!'

So they think it's good to be dumb? How does that begin to make sense?

Their propaganda I think has an undercurrent that intends something like this; "If I don't know a lot, I can focus on the important things." It makes no sense, but that's how it seems to me.

[Unhealthy2]

Their propaganda I think has an undercurrent that intends something like this; "If I don't know a lot, I can focus on the important things." It makes no sense, but that's how it seems to me.

The "sheep" of the religion might think that, but my cynical side thinks that the religious authority's opinion is "If my people know a lot, they'll be harder to control and they'll be more likely to question what I say."

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.

Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".

Are you saying I'm biased against myself?

I'm not getting what you're saying.

[Jocabia]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.

Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".

Are you saying I'm biased against myself?

I'm not getting what you're saying.

Yes, actually. It's a fairly common thing, really. You know a fairly common form of racism is black people who are racist against black people, yes? It's usually pretty mild and pretty rationalized, but it happens more commonly than you'd think.

[Caninope]

-I really don't care-
Atheists have a lower divorce rate than both Born-Again and non-Born-Again Christians... lower than Mormons, Protestants, and Baptists- on a more detailed note.

I could quite imagine that. Christians are often pushed into marriages due to pressure from other members of a church. However, I am sure that there are more marriages among Christians than among atheists.

In an absolute sense ? Certainly - Christians compose over 30% of the worlds population, while atheists are only a tiny fraction.
Relatively speaking.. unknown.

Do you really think that I would ridicule myself by referring to a fact that is currently known?

Can we get a source?

Couldn't find any to support his claim, unfortunately. However, if the divorce rates published by the Barna Group (A conservative evangelical organization) are any indication, there's not all that much statistical difference in divorce rates between Christians and atheists. I don't see why the overall marriage rate would differ all that much, considering this.

I imagine that any small differences might be because of the make-up of the groups. Atheists tend to be made up of the intelligentsia, while Christians tend to be more average and common (at least in the US).

Nothing biased about that reply.

A more accurate description would be that Atheism tends to go hand in hand with who take a more intellectualized view of the world, while Christians are a broader section of the culture. It still holds true that it would make some likely differences in marriages without the elitism.

You do realize that I'm a Southern Baptist, right?

I was basically saying what you were saying though. *shrug*

You can see how calling one group the "intelligentsia" and the other "common" isn't the most flattering way to describe it, yes?

Oh I understand, but common isn't really an insult. *shrug*

I also understand there are many prominent members of the intellectual elite who are religious.

Which isn't relevant to whether or not your comment displayed a bias. And there are further biases when wealthy is tossed in there further along in this thread.

Having a higher education or more wealth does not make you elite. My impromptu survey of successful rappers shows that they're always thanking God when they win awards. That's how I define "elite".

Are you saying I'm biased against myself?

I'm not getting what you're saying.

Yes, actually. It's a fairly common thing, really. You know a fairly common form of racism is black people who are racist against black people, yes? It's usually pretty mild and pretty rationalized, but it happens more commonly than you'd think.

The difference being that religious preference is voluntary.