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Arab MK's parl'y privileges revoked over Gaza flotilla

Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:07 pm

Knesset revokes Arab MK Zuabi's privileges over Gaza flotilla
In 34-16 vote, Knesset approves stripping Zuabi of three parliamentary privileges over participation in Gaza flotilla; Zuabi: Knesset is punishing me out of vengeance.
Haaretz wrote:The Knesset on Tuesday voted to revoke three parliamentary privileges from Arab MK Hanin Zuabi (Balad) due to her participation in the aid flotilla that sailed to Gaza in late May.

Thirty-four lawmakers voted in favor of stripping Zuabi's privileges and 16 voted against, after a heated debate, in which Zuabi accused her fellow lawmakers of punishing her out of vengeance.

Zuabi responded to the Knesset vote by saying, "It's not surprising that a country that strips the fundamental rights of its Arab citizens would revoke the privileges of a Knesset member who loyally represents her electorate."

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Last week the Knesset committee recommended rescinding from Zuabi three key privileges, one of which is the privilege to exit the country – meant to prevent Zoabi from fleeing Israel if she commits a felony or has debts in Israel.

Another privilege to be rescinded is carrying a diplomatic passport, which according to the Knesset's legal adviser, is a privilege that does not grant diplomatic immunity so revoking it would not make it more difficult for Zuabi to fulfill her duties.

The third privilege is the right to have the Knesset cover litigation fees of an MK if he or she faces trial.

MK Yariv Levin (Likud), chairman of the Knesset committee that decided on rescinding her privileges, told Zuabi that she doesn’t belong in the Knesset.

"You have no place in the Israeli Knesset, you are unworthy of holding an Israeli ID and you embarrass the citizens of Israel, the Knesset, the Arab population and your family," he said.

Meanwhile, MK Anastassia Michaeli (Yisrael Beiteinu) was escorted out of the hall after she handed Zuabi a lookalike Iranian passport with a photograph of her in it, saying that it will serve her on her diplomatic incitement trips.

"In every civilized country, a member of parliament who crosses the red line and identifies with the enemy and arming the enemy with weapons of mass destruction aimed at destroying his country's national foundations will not find in his pocket a diplomatic passport of the country he aims to destroy," Michaeli said.

"Ms. Zuabi, I take your loyalty to Iran seriously and I suggest you contact [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad and ask him to give you an Iranian diplomatic passport that will assist you with all your diplomatic incitement tours, because your Israeli passport will be revoked this evening," she added and proceeded to hand Zuabi a lookalike Iranian passport that she had produced for her.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/kn ... a-1.301750

Unbelievable. Because this woman was on the MV Mavi Marmara, she is clearly a dirty brown terrorist who deserves to have her parliamentary privileges stripped. Israel is not a democracy.

edit: Video from the Knesset of her attempting to give a statement and being drowned out by hateful heckling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUxZnHb2ig
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Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:10 pm

The Bleeding Roses wrote:Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.

How dare she represent the interests of her constituency by participating in a humanitarian aid flotilla?
    
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Postby Wamitoria » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:10 pm

Caelapes wrote:Israel is not a democracy.

Exactly, it's an apartheid state.
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Postby The Bleeding Roses » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:13 pm

Caelapes wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.

How dare she represent the interests of her constituency by participating in a humanitarian aid flotilla?


The flotilla was certainly not "humanitarian aid". I thought everyone knew that by now?

That being said, would launching a rocket from a school yard be representing the interests of her constituency as well?
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:14 pm

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The Bleeding Roses wrote:Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.

How dare she represent the interests of her constituency by participating in a humanitarian aid flotilla?


The flotilla was certainly not "humanitarian aid". I thought everyone knew that by now?

That being said, would launching a rocket from a school yard be representing the interests of her constituency as well?

Everyone who believes clearly untrue Israeli propaganda, sure.

But sure, SAND NIGGERS TERRORISTS!!!!
    
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Postby Taffy 3 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:15 pm

She isn't representing her constituency when she considers herself a Palestinian. She serves in the ISRAELI Knesset. There are Arab parliaments in Ramallah. If she considers herself a Palestinian, she should serve there.

Let me ask you this, what would happen to a US Congressman who partook in some sort of propaganda video made by the Taliban?

How about a Spanish parliamentarian who did the same for ETA?

There are plenty of Arab MKs who display their disagreement with Israeli policies without joining Israel's enemies. Zoabi crossed the line here.
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Postby The Bleeding Roses » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:16 pm

Caelapes wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:
Caelapes wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.

How dare she represent the interests of her constituency by participating in a humanitarian aid flotilla?


The flotilla was certainly not "humanitarian aid". I thought everyone knew that by now?

That being said, would launching a rocket from a school yard be representing the interests of her constituency as well?

Everyone who believes clearly untrue Israeli propaganda, sure.

But sure, SAND NIGGERS TERRORISTS!!!!

You need to do better than that if you want to make it on NSG.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:17 pm

Taffy 3 wrote:She isn't representing her constituency when she considers herself a Palestinian. She serves in the ISRAELI Knesset. There are Arab parliaments in Ramallah. If she considers herself a Palestinian, she should serve there.

Let me ask you this, what would happen to a US Congressman who partook in some sort of propaganda video made by the Taliban?

How about a Spanish parliamentarian who did the same for ETA?

Comparing what she did to your made-up fantasies is laughable.
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sure dude whatever you say thanks for this good post on the topic of the revocation of MK Haneen Zoabi's parliamentary privileges
    
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Postby The Bleeding Roses » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:19 pm

Caelapes wrote:
Taffy 3 wrote:She isn't representing her constituency when she considers herself a Palestinian. She serves in the ISRAELI Knesset. There are Arab parliaments in Ramallah. If she considers herself a Palestinian, she should serve there.

Let me ask you this, what would happen to a US Congressman who partook in some sort of propaganda video made by the Taliban?

How about a Spanish parliamentarian who did the same for ETA?

Comparing what she did to your made-up fantasies is laughable.
The Bleeding Roses wrote:You need to do better than that if you want to make it on NSG.

sure dude whatever you say thanks for this good post on the topic of the revocation of MK Haneen Zoabi's parliamentary privileges

You are using slurs and empty rhetoric in an attempt to brand your opposition as racists before they even post...
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:21 pm

Taffy 3 wrote:There are plenty of Arab MKs who display their disagreement with Israeli policies without joining Israel's enemies. Zoabi crossed the line here.

In what way did she cross the line? No Israeli soldiers were killed in the flotilla massacre. Eleven activists were. Shot in the back, in the head at close range. They were assaulted with helicopters, gunboats, and live fire and they responded the only way they could—with slingshots, poles, and first aid.
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The Bleeding Roses wrote:You are using slurs and empty rhetoric in an attempt to brand your opposition as racists before they even post...

You're the racist, by suggesting that she would represent her (Arab) constituency better by "firing a rocket from a school yard". And that was after you posted.
    
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Postby The Bleeding Roses » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:25 pm

I suggest you look up the definition of racism before you further defecate on the work of civil rights activists.


That being said, I was asking you a QUESTION in regards to your stance on whether or not it would simply be representing her constituency to engage in an act that they regularly partake in, not making a suggestion at all. I suggest you research punctuation marks as well.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:30 pm

The Bleeding Roses wrote:I suggest you look up the definition of racism before you further defecate on the work of civil rights activists.


That being said, I was asking you a QUESTION in regards to your stance on whether or not it would simply be representing her constituency to engage in an act that they regularly partake in, not making a suggestion at all. I suggest you research punctuation marks as well.

Racism has a lot of definitions and the definition of "racial discrimination" by the United Nations is this:
the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.


That being said, it was clearly a loaded question meant to cause the reader to ask the question of if it was likely for Arab Israelis to fire rockets from schoolyards, which it obviously isn't; therefore the only reasonable conclusion (backed up by your further insinuation that Arab Israelis "regularly partake in" the firing of such rockets from such schoolyards) is that you are a racist. Or a person who discriminates on the basis of race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin. I prefer "racist" because it's brief. Also I know how to use punctuation but thanks for the tip!
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I suggest you go back to lurking if the extent of your skills is "YOU ARE A RACIST IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME".
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The Bleeding Roses wrote:I suggest you go back to lurking if the extent of your skills is "YOU ARE A RACIST IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME".

It's pretty obvious that isn't what I'm arguing. I'm done with this tangent; this thread is about Haneen Zoabi having her parliamentary privileges revoked.
    
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Caelapes wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:I suggest you go back to lurking if the extent of your skills is "YOU ARE A RACIST IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME".

It's pretty obvious that isn't what I'm arguing. I'm done with this tangent; this thread is about Haneen Zoabi having her parliamentary privileges revoked.

Caelapes wrote:Unbelievable. Because this woman was on the MV Mavi Marmara, she is clearly a dirty brown terrorist who deserves to have her parliamentary privileges stripped. Israel is not a democracy.



That was your first post and the extent of your commentary on the issue. Your accusations of racism make up 9/10s of the post...
I mean honestly, are you intentionally overlooking this?
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Postby Radictistan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:41 pm

"Weapons of mass destruction?" Really? It's reassuring to know that we don't have a monopoly on moronic blowhards in the legislature.

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Postby Thurask » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:44 pm

Caelapes wrote:edit: Video from the Knesset of her attempting to give a statement and being drowned out by hateful heckling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUxZnHb2ig


What the fuck.
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Thurask wrote:
Caelapes wrote:edit: Video from the Knesset of her attempting to give a statement and being drowned out by hateful heckling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUxZnHb2ig


What the fuck.

Isn't it ridiculous? This is why I made the reference to "dirty brown terrorists" in the original post—it's a succinct way of relating what's said about her in this video. "She's a terrorist, check her for knives! Check her for chainsaws!"
    
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NERVUN wrote:Just a general "Mods are Watching You" post to turn down the heat a few notches...

My school's pool just got filled, I'd hate to have to dunk posters in there for playing with fire.


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Postby Taffy 3 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:59 pm

Caelapes wrote:
Taffy 3 wrote:She isn't representing her constituency when she considers herself a Palestinian. She serves in the ISRAELI Knesset. There are Arab parliaments in Ramallah. If she considers herself a Palestinian, she should serve there.

Let me ask you this, what would happen to a US Congressman who partook in some sort of propaganda video made by the Taliban?

How about a Spanish parliamentarian who did the same for ETA?

Comparing what she did to your made-up fantasies is laughable.


The reason those situations are "made-up fantasies" is because no sane parliamentarian would perform those actions. However, Ms. Zoabi was just insane enough to perform an equivilant act. You've yet to answer my question on what would happen if one of those "made up fantasies" were to occur in any other democracy. They'd deal with it as Israel has. Heck, Israel is lenient here for not pressing charges and only removing some MK privileges. She still has her seat and can vote. It would be like removing the rights of US Congressmen to fly wherever the hell they want and bill the taxpayers for it. Not really a strict punishment. It's not like she was impeached or anything.
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Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Just a general "Mods are Watching You" post to turn down the heat a few notches...

My school's pool just got filled, I'd hate to have to dunk posters in there for playing with fire.


In other words, ignore any posts by The Bleeding Roses, or any nation with the same avatar. A first class flamebaiter if I ever saw one.

Isn't this post flaimbaiting?
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Taffy 3 wrote:
Brandenburg-Altmark wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Just a general "Mods are Watching You" post to turn down the heat a few notches...

My school's pool just got filled, I'd hate to have to dunk posters in there for playing with fire.


In other words, ignore any posts by The Bleeding Roses, or any nation with the same avatar. A first class flamebaiter if I ever saw one.

Isn't this post flaimbaiting?

Pretty much.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:04 pm

The Bleeding Roses wrote:
Caelapes wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Every action has it's consequences, she knew that.

How dare she represent the interests of her constituency by participating in a humanitarian aid flotilla?


The flotilla was certainly not "humanitarian aid". I thought everyone knew that by now?

That being said, would launching a rocket from a school yard be representing the interests of her constituency as well?


And when did she do that?
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