Why can't we all just compromise?

[Kormanthor]

The west can't be compromised with.

I don't think that was one of the chioces was it?

[Galloism]

Well if you want to compromise of pro choice and pro life lets all just buy machine guns and shoot random people on the streets!!!! Killing adults and killing babies are the same thing people!!!

Peoples reason for having pro-choice (& why there dumb reasons):
1st- "My friend was raped and now shes prego!" So just becuase something bad happened to the mom means that the baby has to pay for it??? ya that make sense...
2nd- "I can support the child" thats like sayin im too poor so i'm goin to kill it... AND PEOPLE THERE THINGS LIKE ADOPTION there are alot of couples that can't have children while idiots kill babies like its goin out of style.
3rd- "im only 16 and my parents will kick me out if i have to support a baby" here we go again PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF COUPLES CANNOT GET PREGO AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! and why should 16 year old being having sex in the first place??????????????

Pro-Choice is a killing dumb stupid thing that should never be compromised!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My IQ just dropped a bit.

[Getbrett]

Well if you want to compromise of pro choice and pro life lets all just buy machine guns and shoot random people on the streets!!!! Killing adults and killing babies are the same thing people!!!

Peoples reason for having pro-choice (& why there dumb reasons):
1st- "My friend was raped and now shes prego!" So just becuase something bad happened to the mom means that the baby has to pay for it??? ya that make sense...
2nd- "I can support the child" thats like sayin im too poor so i'm goin to kill it... AND PEOPLE THERE THINGS LIKE ADOPTION there are alot of couples that can't have children while idiots kill babies like its goin out of style.
3rd- "im only 16 and my parents will kick me out if i have to support a baby" here we go again PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF COUPLES CANNOT GET PREGO AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! and why should 16 year old being having sex in the first place??????????????

Pro-Choice is a killing dumb stupid thing that should never be compromised!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't take you seriously because "prego" is an intrinsically funny word. Prego. Hahaha.

[Galloism]

Well if you want to compromise of pro choice and pro life lets all just buy machine guns and shoot random people on the streets!!!! Killing adults and killing babies are the same thing people!!!

Peoples reason for having pro-choice (& why there dumb reasons):
1st- "My friend was raped and now shes prego!" So just becuase something bad happened to the mom means that the baby has to pay for it??? ya that make sense...
2nd- "I can support the child" thats like sayin im too poor so i'm goin to kill it... AND PEOPLE THERE THINGS LIKE ADOPTION there are alot of couples that can't have children while idiots kill babies like its goin out of style.
3rd- "im only 16 and my parents will kick me out if i have to support a baby" here we go again PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF COUPLES CANNOT GET PREGO AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! and why should 16 year old being having sex in the first place??????????????

Pro-Choice is a killing dumb stupid thing that should never be compromised!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't take you seriously because "prego" is an intrinsically funny word. Prego. Hahaha.

Prego makes pretty good sauce, though.

[Ashmoria]

Votes for women could have reached a compromise, Some women can vote but not all. Just like special treatment for blacks could have reached a compromise, Only Blacks who contribute to society can get preferential treatment.

those are pretty sucky compromises.

and like the old doctrine of "seperate but equal" too dependent on the imperfect (racist/sexist) local official to decide who makes the grade and who doesnt.

I am vehemantly against "seperate but equal", I am just saying that such a compromise could be worked out not that I would agree with such a compromise.

oh

well then

a sucky compromise doesnt defend your position well. it would be better to propose a compromise that you think of as the best possible choice.

[Hamilay]

Where's that comic about killing half of all kittens and puppies when you need it?

[South East Europe]

I have the right word. Blacks can call me "Faggot", "Freak", "Shemale", etc... in my school and when it's reported, they don't even get a slap on the wrist. But, if I were to call a black person a "Nigger", then I would be expelled. That's prefential treatment if I ever saw it.

Oh man, your world view really does revolve around your persecution complex, doesn't it? It's pathetic.

Excuse me, I'm talking about personal experiences not things in my mind. So, my world view is from how I have been treated. Your right, it is pathetic to judge all people from one group because of how the majority of people I have met from that group have treated me. I don't believe I am being persecuted, I know I am being persecuted. And you don't even know one thing about persecution, gays have it way better off than I do. Everyone bends over backwards for gay marriage but stands hard against equal employment protection of transsexuals. Straights, Gays, and Bisexuals are for the most part Transphobic, this too is based on personal experience.

[Farnhamia]

Well if you want to compromise of pro choice and pro life lets all just buy machine guns and shoot random people on the streets!!!! Killing adults and killing babies are the same thing people!!!

Peoples reason for having pro-choice (& why there dumb reasons):
1st- "My friend was raped and now shes prego!" So just becuase something bad happened to the mom means that the baby has to pay for it??? ya that make sense...
2nd- "I can support the child" thats like sayin im too poor so i'm goin to kill it... AND PEOPLE THERE THINGS LIKE ADOPTION there are alot of couples that can't have children while idiots kill babies like its goin out of style.
3rd- "im only 16 and my parents will kick me out if i have to support a baby" here we go again PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF COUPLES CANNOT GET PREGO AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! and why should 16 year old being having sex in the first place??????????????

Pro-Choice is a killing dumb stupid thing that should never be compromised!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't take you seriously because "prego" is an intrinsically funny word. Prego. Hahaha.

Prego makes pretty good sauce, though.

It does. And I wish people like that would just come right out and say what they mean, don't you?

[Northwest Slobovia]

So since there is a compromise for nearly everything that people make a serious issue, I ask you this, why can't we all just compromise?

Well, you could start by compromising on your extremist believe that there is nearly always a compromise.

It's an extremist belief? Why? Because I don't entirely agree with you but am willing to compromise?

It's intended as self-referential humor. That is, could you "moderate" your belief by saying that people can compromise only half the time/on half the issues they believe in. That's a compromise between "compromise is (nearly) always possible" and "we must always try to get our own way", right?

Oh, you want a serious answer. Ok... people who feel strongly about something -- anything, really -- might say that saying "we can (nearly) always compromise" is an indication of relativist beliefs -- there is no right and wrong -- which is often taken as an extreme position. Others would point out that things that seem like compromises actually embrace extreme principles held by one side or the other in a dispute.

For example, during the run-up to the US Civil War, there were people who advocated a compromise: gradually eliminating slavery, perhaps by buying slaves from their owners. Many abolitionists thought this was abominable, because it accepted the notion that people could be property. So, in that sense, the apparent compromise of gradual elimination of slavery by purchase rather than the extremes of yes slavery or no slavery is actually an extreme position by accepting the "extremist" view that people can property.

Does that help?

[Galloism]

I can't take you seriously because "prego" is an intrinsically funny word. Prego. Hahaha.

Prego makes pretty good sauce, though.

It does. And I wish people like that would just come right out and say what they mean, don't you?

I agree we should never destroy bottles of Prego just because. It should be used on a nice spaghetti.

[South East Europe]

those are pretty sucky compromises.

and like the old doctrine of "seperate but equal" too dependent on the imperfect (racist/sexist) local official to decide who makes the grade and who doesnt.

I am vehemantly against "seperate but equal", I am just saying that such a compromise could be worked out not that I would agree with such a compromise.

oh

well then

a sucky compromise doesnt defend your position well. it would be better to propose a compromise that you think of as the best possible choice.

I would not agree with such a compromise but I would not oppose it. I would compromise, thus I would be neutral about it. So not what I think of being the best choice, what we all reach in a compromise.

[United Russian State]

The west can't be compromised with.

I don't think that was one of the chioces was it?

Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

[Kormanthor]

Here is my dilemma!
Pro-"Life" or Pro-"Choice"? There is a compromise is there not?

Lets take one of these subjects for Instance; I am Definately ProLife, where is the compromise there? Please explain your reasoning here.

Hypothetically, abort the anti-choicer, not the fetus.

That wasn't very nice was it?

[South East Europe]

Well, you could start by compromising on your extremist believe that there is nearly always a compromise.

It's an extremist belief? Why? Because I don't entirely agree with you but am willing to compromise?

It's intended as self-referential humor. That is, could you "moderate" your belief by saying that people can compromise only half the time/on half the issues they believe in. That's a compromise between "compromise is (nearly) always possible" and "we must always try to get our own way", right?

Oh, you want a serious answer. Ok... people who feel strongly about something -- anything, really -- might say that saying "we can (nearly) always compromise" is an indication of relativist beliefs -- there is no right and wrong -- which is often taken as an extreme position. Others would point out that things that seem like compromises actually embrace extreme principles held by one side or the other in a dispute.

For example, during the run-up to the US Civil War, there were people who advocated a compromise: gradually eliminating slavery, perhaps by buying slaves from their owners. Many abolitionists thought this was abominable, because it accepted the notion that people could be property. So, in that sense, the apparent compromise of gradual elimination of slavery by purchase rather than the extremes of yes slavery or no slavery is actually an extreme position by accepting the "extremist" view that people can property.

Does that help?

Well, I'm just saying it would be easier to compromise. And yes that does help a lot, thank you. Well, it would depend on the persons definition of a compromise.

[Getbrett]

I have the right word. Blacks can call me "Faggot", "Freak", "Shemale", etc... in my school and when it's reported, they don't even get a slap on the wrist. But, if I were to call a black person a "Nigger", then I would be expelled. That's prefential treatment if I ever saw it.

Oh man, your world view really does revolve around your persecution complex, doesn't it? It's pathetic.

Excuse me, I'm talking about personal experiences not things in my mind. So, my world view is from how I have been treated. Your right, it is pathetic to judge all people from one group because of how the majority of people I have met from that group have treated me. I don't believe I am being persecuted, I know I am being persecuted. And you don't even know one thing about persecution, gays have it way better off than I do. Everyone bends over backwards for gay marriage but stands hard against equal employment protection of transsexuals. Straights, Gays, and Bisexuals are for the most part Transphobic, this too is based on personal experience.

All of this may well be true. However, it has nothing to do with what you're proposing in the opening post. Nothing. The fact that you brought it back to this topic, even when it's largely unrelated, reeks of a persecution complex. Make your argument without appealing to irrelevant emotion and perhaps I'll listen.

[Anti-Mod Duck]

I would like to debate your indifference to debates, SEE.

[Angleter]

As far I have yet to hear any answer to Twenty Years, so (even though I am pro-life) I'll do it. Backstreet abortions are always going to happen, and these are often dangerous and result in both mother and child dying. Surely it is better to have legal abortion- if only as a discouraged failsafe- where the abortion can be conducted in a clean and safe environment?

Also China (not a West/NATO state) does not compromise with its own, nor Myanmar, Vietnam, Laos, North Korea, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Yemen, Egypt, most of Africa, Venezuela, etc.

[Kormanthor]

[Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

Lets not turn this into an America bashing party OK?

[Hamilay]

The west can't be compromised with.

I don't think that was one of the chioces was it?

Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

Fixed.

[South East Europe]

The west can't be compromised with.

I don't think that was one of the chioces was it?

Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

As a person born in the USA, I have this to say: We are wrong, You are right. Most European medical breakthroughs are far more advanced then American ones, most Americans just choose to reject medical and scientific fact.

[Anti-Mod Duck]

Well if you want to compromise of pro choice and pro life lets all just buy machine guns and shoot random people on the streets!!!! Killing adults and killing babies are the same thing people!!!

Peoples reason for having pro-choice (& why there dumb reasons):
1st- "My friend was raped and now shes prego!" So just becuase something bad happened to the mom means that the baby has to pay for it??? ya that make sense...
2nd- "I can support the child" thats like sayin im too poor so i'm goin to kill it... AND PEOPLE THERE THINGS LIKE ADOPTION there are alot of couples that can't have children while idiots kill babies like its goin out of style.
3rd- "im only 16 and my parents will kick me out if i have to support a baby" here we go again PEOPLE, MILLIONS OF COUPLES CANNOT GET PREGO AND YOU THINK THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!!! and why should 16 year old being having sex in the first place??????????????

Pro-Choice is a killing dumb stupid thing that should never be compromised!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am VERY pro-choice. You, sir, are my sworn nemesis.

[Galloism]

[Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

Lets turn this into an America bashing party OK?

Actually, it's a NATO bashing party apparently.

So, apparently, most people in Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom, and United States have the thinking of "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off."

Now, the ultimate question is, what does "worng" mean?

[Conserative Morality]

Pro-"Life" or Pro-"Choice"? There is a compromise is there not? Aye, No partial birth abortions. Some, however, will not accept any abortions.
Anti-Homosexual "Marriage" or Pro-Homosexual "Marriage"? There is a compromise is there not? No. The only possible argument against this violates the separation of church and state.
Socialism or Capitalism? Fascism or Communism? There is a compromise is there not? No. I will not accept a psuedo-fascist or psuedo-Capitalist state.
Unisex Restrooms or Binary Restrooms? There is a compromise is there not? Allow both?
Fiscal Responsibility or Liberal Spending? There is a compromise. No. Massive debt is not something we should incur in a time of relative peace.
Environment Conservation or Environmental Preservation or Environmental Destruction? There is a compromise. Meh.
Dangerous Substances or No Dangerous Substances? There is a compromise. ...
Healthcare Reform or Anti-Healthcare Reform? There is a compromise. Yeah, Healthcare reform guided but not controlled by the government.

[South East Europe]

Oh man, your world view really does revolve around your persecution complex, doesn't it? It's pathetic.

Excuse me, I'm talking about personal experiences not things in my mind. So, my world view is from how I have been treated. Your right, it is pathetic to judge all people from one group because of how the majority of people I have met from that group have treated me. I don't believe I am being persecuted, I know I am being persecuted. And you don't even know one thing about persecution, gays have it way better off than I do. Everyone bends over backwards for gay marriage but stands hard against equal employment protection of transsexuals. Straights, Gays, and Bisexuals are for the most part Transphobic, this too is based on personal experience.

All of this may well be true. However, it has nothing to do with what you're proposing in the opening post. Nothing. The fact that you brought it back to this topic, even when it's largely unrelated, reeks of a persecution complex. Make your argument without appealing to irrelevant emotion and perhaps I'll listen.

It is related to you saying that what blacks have isn't preferential treatment, it's equal treatment. I was disproving a lie that you seem to believe. I'm not appealing to irrelevant emotion, I am simply saying that blacks do get preferential treatment and there should have been a compromise.

[Brogavia]

The west can't be compromised with.

I don't think that was one of the chioces was it?

Let me put it in this way than.

Most people from western nations (NATO) have the thinking "I am right, you are worng. Fuck off." They cannot compromise with their own (look at Amercia) or others from differnt cultures.

Because its the truth. We are right, you are wrong.