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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Kormanthor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:41 am

Galloism wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: If you truely don't know the meaning of wrong, I suggest you read the Bible.


A) I was making fun of the spelling mistake. I don't know what "worng" means because it's not a word.

B) I have read the Bible, cover to cover, 6 times, and once upon a time I was a minister. Don't assume. How many times have you read it?


Sorry I misunderstood, please forgive me. I read the Bible everyday.

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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Galloism » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:42 am

Kormanthor wrote: Sorry I misunderstood, please forgive me. I read the Bible everyday.


You're forgiven child. Now say 6 "I Love Taco"s and 14 "Unholy Galloism"s in order to atone for your sin.
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:44 am

Brogavia wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:If the child being aborted had a vote here ... what do you think the vote would be?


Cut the cord and give me milk?


I was asking whether or not he or she would vote to live or die.

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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Kormanthor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:45 am

Galloism wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: Sorry I misunderstood, please forgive me. I read the Bible everyday.


You're forgiven child. Now say 6 "I Love Taco"s and 14 "Unholy Galloism"s in order to atone for your sin.



Sorry I'm United Methodist not Catholic :)

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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:47 am

Kormanthor wrote:
Brogavia wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:If the child being aborted had a vote here ... what do you think the vote would be?


Cut the cord and give me milk?


I was asking whether or not he or she would vote to live or die.


If an embryo had the brain power to understand life or death (let alone vote), this might be an interesting question.

It might also be interesting to know if the embryo would believe in bodily integrity or gender slavery.
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:47 am

South East Europe wrote:Here is my dilemma!
Pro-"Life" or Pro-"Choice"? There is a compromise is there not?
Anti-Homosexual "Marriage" or Pro-Homosexual "Marriage"? There is a compromise is there not?
Socialism or Capitalism? Fascism or Communism? There is a compromise is there not?
Unisex Restrooms or Binary Restrooms? There is a compromise is there not?
Fiscal Responsibility or Liberal Spending? There is a compromise.
Environment Conservation or Environmental Preservation or Environmental Destruction? There is a compromise.
Dangerous Substances or No Dangerous Substances? There is a compromise.
Healthcare Reform or Anti-Healthcare Reform? There is a compromise.
So since there is a compromise for nearly everything that people make a serious issue, I ask you this, why can't we all just compromise?


For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:49 am

Farnhamia wrote:I have found, sometimes, that straight women share the irrational fear of homosexuals of their gender that some straight men do, that we're going to automatically hit on them. Part of the straight stereotype of homosexuals seems to be that we're all promiscuous far beyond any heterosexual's ability. Don't ask me why. So that could enter into the young woman's reasoning (and I use that word loosely).


Your absolutely right. Also, I have found, sometimes, that cisgendered lesbians share the irrational fear of transgendered women who happen to be lesbian, that we're going to automatically hit on them. Part of the cisgendered lesbian stereotype of transgendered women seems to be that we're all promiscuous far beyond any cisgendered lesbian's ability. Don't ask me why. So that could enter into the young woman's reasoning (and I use taht word loosely). See what I did there? :p Sorry, just had to do that. :rofl:
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:50 am

Kormanthor wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: Sorry I misunderstood, please forgive me. I read the Bible everyday.


You're forgiven child. Now say 6 "I Love Taco"s and 14 "Unholy Galloism"s in order to atone for your sin.



Sorry I'm United Methodist not Catholic :)


Well, I'm a Druid Buddhist Catholic, so I can't do what Galloism suggested either. But, I'm still willing to compromise.
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:50 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
South East Europe wrote:Here is my dilemma!
Pro-"Life" or Pro-"Choice"? There is a compromise is there not?
Anti-Homosexual "Marriage" or Pro-Homosexual "Marriage"? There is a compromise is there not?
Socialism or Capitalism? Fascism or Communism? There is a compromise is there not?
Unisex Restrooms or Binary Restrooms? There is a compromise is there not?
Fiscal Responsibility or Liberal Spending? There is a compromise.
Environment Conservation or Environmental Preservation or Environmental Destruction? There is a compromise.
Dangerous Substances or No Dangerous Substances? There is a compromise.
Healthcare Reform or Anti-Healthcare Reform? There is a compromise.
So since there is a compromise for nearly everything that people make a serious issue, I ask you this, why can't we all just compromise?


For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm curious what those of you superior beings "in the middle" would suggest as compromises on the issues listed by SEE.
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Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:52 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm a Conservative who just happens to fall right in the Center of most political discussions. So, I likely do much more eye-rolling, head-shaking, and face-palming, but I'm willing to compromise.
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:53 am

The Cat-Tribe wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
South East Europe wrote:Here is my dilemma!
Pro-"Life" or Pro-"Choice"? There is a compromise is there not?
Anti-Homosexual "Marriage" or Pro-Homosexual "Marriage"? There is a compromise is there not?
Socialism or Capitalism? Fascism or Communism? There is a compromise is there not?
Unisex Restrooms or Binary Restrooms? There is a compromise is there not?
Fiscal Responsibility or Liberal Spending? There is a compromise.
Environment Conservation or Environmental Preservation or Environmental Destruction? There is a compromise.
Dangerous Substances or No Dangerous Substances? There is a compromise.
Healthcare Reform or Anti-Healthcare Reform? There is a compromise.
So since there is a compromise for nearly everything that people make a serious issue, I ask you this, why can't we all just compromise?


For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm curious what those of you superior beings "in the middle" would suggest as compromises on the issues listed by SEE.


did I say anything about "superior"? Is it possible for you to post anything without being a snark?
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Capricana » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:55 am

It is related to you saying that what blacks have isn't preferential treatment, it's equal treatment. I was disproving a lie that you seem to believe. I'm not appealing to irrelevant emotion, I am simply saying that blacks do get preferential treatment and there should have been a compromise.[/quote]

No, blacks are given equal treatment, and you are NOT given equal treatment. There is a HUGE difference here, and your error is based upon your warped view of the world.[/quote]

They are different perspectives of the same idea, treatment. One may say that another has preferential treatment because they are not prosecuted for a crime seemingly equal to that which you are prosecuted for. This also translates to unequal treatment, which implies the idea of the two said individuals having the right to equal treatment. Same idea just stated differently, you are both right.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:55 am

South East Europe wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm a Conservative who just happens to fall right in the Center of most political discussions. So, I likely do much more eye-rolling, head-shaking, and face-palming, but I'm willing to compromise.


I tend to be either just left-of-center or just right-of-center depending on the issue. Whether or not a compromise is possible, it depends on what folk are willing to discuss, but I will continue to believe that at least opening up to the possibility of discussion and/or compromise is more desireable than taking a hardline no discussion possible stance.
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:56 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
The Cat-Tribe wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm curious what those of you superior beings "in the middle" would suggest as compromises on the issues listed by SEE.


did I say anything about "superior"?


Non-responsive. But I do deeply apologize. I thought perhaps you suggested you were better than "right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies." My bad.

Grays Harbor wrote:Is it possible for you to post anything without being a snark?


Apparently not.
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The Cat-Tribe wrote:With that, I am done with these shenanigans. Do as thou wilt.

Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:01 pm

Capricana wrote:It is related to you saying that what blacks have isn't preferential treatment, it's equal treatment. I was disproving a lie that you seem to believe. I'm not appealing to irrelevant emotion, I am simply saying that blacks do get preferential treatment and there should have been a compromise.

No, blacks are given equal treatment, and you are NOT given equal treatment. There is a HUGE difference here, and your error is based upon your warped view of the world.

They are different perspectives of the same idea, treatment. One may say that another has preferential treatment because they are not prosecuted for a crime seemingly equal to that which you are prosecuted for. This also translates to unequal treatment, which implies the idea of the two said individuals having the right to equal treatment. Same idea just stated differently, you are both right.


Um, yea. Two things. One. I've never been prosecuted for a crime, but I've been investigated by the FBI and Child Services on basis of false evidence and on basis of false accusations that I couldn't even physically carry out, and the people making the false accusations weren't charged with fraud. Two. My post that he responded to is based upon personal experiences in school, public buildings, etc...
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby Kormanthor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:02 pm

The Cat-Tribe wrote:
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If an embryo had the brain power to understand life or death (let alone vote), this might be an interesting question.

It might also be interesting to know if the embryo would believe in bodily integrity or gender slavery.



OK ... lets put it another way, if you were a baby about to be born, but threatened by abortion, would you vote for life or death? :eyebrow:

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:03 pm

Kormanthor wrote: OK ... lets put it another way, if you were a baby about to be born, but threatened by abortion, would you vote for life or death? :eyebrow:

My brain would not be able to function on that level yet, assuming partial-birth abortion is banned.
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Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:04 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
South East Europe wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
For dogmatists of both sides, there is no compromise mostly because they are completely convinced of the "rightness" of their own position and how the opposition is completely wrong. This sword cuts both ways, as both right-wing wackos and left-wing loonies believe this.

The rest of us in the middle just do lots of eyerolling, head-shaking and face-palming.


I'm a Conservative who just happens to fall right in the Center of most political discussions. So, I likely do much more eye-rolling, head-shaking, and face-palming, but I'm willing to compromise.


I tend to be either just left-of-center or just right-of-center depending on the issue. Whether or not a compromise is possible, it depends on what folk are willing to discuss, but I will continue to believe that at least opening up to the possibility of discussion and/or compromise is more desireable than taking a hardline no discussion possible stance.


That's a good way to be, but I'm willing to compromise. :lol2:
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Postby South East Europe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: OK ... lets put it another way, if you were a baby about to be born, but threatened by abortion, would you vote for life or death? :eyebrow:

My brain would not be able to function on that level yet, assuming partial-birth abortion is banned.


Well, if it was able to function on that level, I think he means?
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:05 pm

Who are we to make compromises with other folks lives? :eyebrow:
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:06 pm

South East Europe wrote: That's a good way to be, but I'm willing to compromise. :lol2:


Thanks, I needed a good giggle. :p
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:06 pm

South East Europe wrote:Well, if it was able to function on that level, I think he means?

Then I'd be wondering what other changes to the world had been made, so I know to account for them.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:07 pm

South East Europe wrote:Well, if it was able to function on that level, I think he means?

But it wouldn't be able to function on that level. Don't bring fantasy into politics, we have enough superstition there to last us.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:08 pm

Kormanthor wrote: Who are we to make compromises with other folks lives? :eyebrow:

I take it you have opposed every war in the history of mankind, the death penalty, the prison system, et cetera, et cetera...
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Re: Why can't we all just compromise?

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:09 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
The Cat-Tribe wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
If an embryo had the brain power to understand life or death (let alone vote), this might be an interesting question.

It might also be interesting to know if the embryo would believe in bodily integrity or gender slavery.



OK ... lets put it another way, if you were a baby about to be born, but threatened by abortion, would you vote for life or death? :eyebrow:


:rofl:

1. Abortion doesn't involve "a baby about to be born." In fact, 90% of abortions occur within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. Later abortions almost always involve a threat to the life or health of the mother or a very severe fetal abnormality.

2. I don't think we should leave the decision about fundamental rights to the instincts of infants, let alone the unborn.

But that's just me being all "pro-choice" nit-picky.
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The Cat-Tribe wrote:With that, I am done with these shenanigans. Do as thou wilt.

Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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