What are your most politically incorrect beleifs?

[Lackadaisical2]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

Doesn't make it a bad idea...

[Aldarminia]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

Doesn't make it a bad idea...

How?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Being what way? I did not say that they are all stupid or anything, I simply said that because of the culture that white American grew up in, I don't think most of them understand sexism, racism, and other forms of prejudice as well as someone who would have faced it, and so I generally don't give their words as much merit as I would to someone who has faced these prejudices. I am white, so I will not understand what it is to be the victim of American prejudice as a black person would. I am a woman, however, and therefore, I will understand sexism better than a man ever could hope to. They can understand what it is and the general concept of it, but they will not ever know what it is to be the victim of it. White men do, at times, face some individual prejudice of people, but this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about societal, cultural flaws in America.

White men are the default American, and the rest of the country is forced to live in their shadow and with them in power. White men, to no fault of their own, often have a hard time understanding racism and sexism on the same level as someone who has lived it. I am not marking white men with any negative terms or blanketing them in any way, but this is simply a fact of American culture. It needs to change, but it can't until those in power (guess who?) understand the struggles that other groups face, that they never will have to.

I am a white American who does have the experience of being a racial minority. I lived in China for a year and a half.

It is annoying when you are a walking spectacle because of your race.
It is annoying when you go to the store and none of the products are intended for you.
It is annoying when you are looking for work in a society where you don't fit in.

It is not the unspeakable outrage that minorities in the U.S. make it out to be. I understand what people are complaining about, but sometimes they just need to take it down a notch and learn some class. I don't appreciate the closed-mindedness of some black person or Latino telling me I don't know what they go through because I am white and they can't conceive the possibility that I have ever been anything except your stereotypical sheltered white American.

You are walking a fine line between providing a legitimate analysis of American society and making a closed-minded generalization.

[Harritain]

(The following applies to America, not so much the rest of the world.)
White men control the majority of the government, but I don't trust them as much as I trust other groups and believe that they lack a good knowledge of what it is like to feel prejudiced against. So, when white men try to talk about what it is to be victims of a social flaw, such as racism or sexism, I generally lose respect for what they are saying. It doesn't have much merit with me. I honestly think the majority of them need to be more willing to listen to minority groups and understand the cultures and ideas of other groups than they are willing to do. The rest of America knows the ideas and general culture of white, male Americans - everyone else lives with them as the default! However, because of the history of this country and the racism and sexism that still exist today, white men are probably always going to hold the most power. *sigh* It's a shame.

You do realize you're not much better for blanketing all white American men to be that way.

Being what way? I did not say that they are all stupid or anything, I simply said that because of the culture that white American grew up in, I don't think most of them understand sexism, racism, and other forms of prejudice as well as someone who would have faced it, and so I generally don't give their words as much merit as I would to someone who has faced these prejudices. I am white, so I will not understand what it is to be the victim of American prejudice as a black person would. I am a woman, however, and therefore, I will understand sexism better than a man ever could hope to. They can understand what it is and the general concept of it, but they will not ever know what it is to be the victim of it. White men do, at times, face some individual prejudice of people, but this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about societal, cultural flaws in America.

White men are the default American, and the rest of the country is forced to live in their shadow and with them in power. White men, to no fault of their own, often have a hard time understanding racism and sexism on the same level as someone who has lived it. I am not marking white men with any negative terms or blanketing them in any way, but this is simply a fact of American culture. It needs to change, but it can't until those in power (guess who?) understand the struggles that other groups face, that they never will have to.

Even though most have forgotten this heritage:
Irish white men were the victims of much prejudice. German-Americans(who were white) were given much prejudice at once. There are many women in our government. Some of the biggest celebrities are of a minority and/or female. They obviously have much influence among the people at least. Of course they have wealth. In truth, the reason why there aren't as many minorities in the government is their cultures. Hispanics and blacks come from cultures of many artistic practices. Whites come from an ancient culture of conquerors and chieftains who fought many wars against each other and whose biggest dreams were power. As such culture is usually what decides many of our choices in life. But as the cultures continue to merge, more minorities are entering the government.

When you see a white person, do you think "Oh, they look Irish/German/etc"? No, German-Americans, Irish-Americans, and Italian-Americans all share the same privilege. Where you are a McConnell, Bach, or Bruno, if your skin is white, then you share the same privilege. Was it always like this? No, but we are not talking about always, we are talking about today.

The people in power, but a vast majority, are white males. The amount of celebrities who are of a minority race make no difference, and they just face prejudice. When I Love Lucy was on air, and there was a famous Hispanic on television every night, it did not mean that Americans suddenly were open and accepting of Hispanic culture, for instance.

[Lackadaisical2]

I..have a lot.
<_<
I'm politically pretty incorrect.

1) I fully support executions, done in public if needed, for things like murder. Not for stupid shit like pirating or forgery, that doesn't deserve death.

2) I also think it's pretty retarded when people are shocked that you'd kill somebody for robbing/attacking/kidnapping/murdering your family or people you care about. In my mind, doing so is signing your own death warrant. (Refer to Morrowind's law of "they attacked first, so they're the one that is in the wrong." I'm not even kidding you, I really and honestly see things that way.) I would tear someone apart for hurting my family, and anyone who has a problem with it, in my mind, doesn't care enough about their family and loved ones.

3) Bush's family and the Rockefellers should be judged before their time, by us, for what they've done. I'm an anarcholibertarian if you're wondering, lol.

4) Politicians (well, besides Ron Paul) in my view are pretty much the exact same and I've laughed at someone for about half an hour for supporting John McCain (and his vegetable friends - its a youtube, look it up.)

5) (I shall get hate for this one, but I care not, it's true) I believe that if someone truly, really honestly wants to commit suicide, you should let them. It just proves that they were a waste of a life. And yes, I've said this about people I once called friends who have done the act. If someone shows weakness to me in a strong enough form, I am disgusted with them.

6) I support gay marriage. That shouldn't be politically incorrect, but evidently it is. I've punched someone in the throat for telling me that gays and lesbians are disgusting.

7) I identify myself as transgender, although I cannot pay, and likely never will afford, the change to a woman. (Lol, this'll get me the most hate of all, I'm sure.) I'm comfortable with it - it's who I am, and who I always have been. But evidently this is largely incorrect, socially/politically/religiously.

Did I win a cookie?

Blah blah, etc.
Basically things that are politically and socially incorrect these days, I'm probably okay with him.

This is a very bizarre post, possibly one of the more bizarre posts on this forum.

[Harritain]

Being what way? I did not say that they are all stupid or anything, I simply said that because of the culture that white American grew up in, I don't think most of them understand sexism, racism, and other forms of prejudice as well as someone who would have faced it, and so I generally don't give their words as much merit as I would to someone who has faced these prejudices. I am white, so I will not understand what it is to be the victim of American prejudice as a black person would. I am a woman, however, and therefore, I will understand sexism better than a man ever could hope to. They can understand what it is and the general concept of it, but they will not ever know what it is to be the victim of it. White men do, at times, face some individual prejudice of people, but this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about societal, cultural flaws in America.

White men are the default American, and the rest of the country is forced to live in their shadow and with them in power. White men, to no fault of their own, often have a hard time understanding racism and sexism on the same level as someone who has lived it. I am not marking white men with any negative terms or blanketing them in any way, but this is simply a fact of American culture. It needs to change, but it can't until those in power (guess who?) understand the struggles that other groups face, that they never will have to.

I am a white American who does have the experience of being a racial minority. I lived in China for a year and a half.

It is annoying when you are a walking spectacle because of your race.
It is annoying when you go to the store and none of the products are intended for you.
It is annoying when you are looking for work in a society where you don't fit in.

It is not the unspeakable outrage that minorities in the U.S. make it out to be. I understand what people are complaining about, but sometimes they just need to take it down a notch and learn some class. I don't appreciate the closed-mindedness of some black person or Latino telling me I don't know what they go through because I am white and they can't conceive the possibility that I have ever been anything except your stereotypical sheltered white American.

You are walking a fine line between providing a legitimate analysis of American society and making a closed-minded generalization.

I didn't make myself clear, and I'm sorry for that. When I stated that this is directed at Americans, I did not take into consideration those who had lived for an extended period in a country where they were the minority, and I apologize for that. However, I was speaking about Americans who had never lived for an extended period of time in another country. I don't know much about China and so I am afraid that I will have to accept your criticism without argument.

[Aldarminia]

(The following applies to America, not so much the rest of the world.)
White men control the majority of the government, but I don't trust them as much as I trust other groups and believe that they lack a good knowledge of what it is like to feel prejudiced against. So, when white men try to talk about what it is to be victims of a social flaw, such as racism or sexism, I generally lose respect for what they are saying. It doesn't have much merit with me. I honestly think the majority of them need to be more willing to listen to minority groups and understand the cultures and ideas of other groups than they are willing to do. The rest of America knows the ideas and general culture of white, male Americans - everyone else lives with them as the default! However, because of the history of this country and the racism and sexism that still exist today, white men are probably always going to hold the most power. *sigh* It's a shame.

You do realize you're not much better for blanketing all white American men to be that way.

Being what way? I did not say that they are all stupid or anything, I simply said that because of the culture that white American grew up in, I don't think most of them understand sexism, racism, and other forms of prejudice as well as someone who would have faced it, and so I generally don't give their words as much merit as I would to someone who has faced these prejudices. I am white, so I will not understand what it is to be the victim of American prejudice as a black person would. I am a woman, however, and therefore, I will understand sexism better than a man ever could hope to. They can understand what it is and the general concept of it, but they will not ever know what it is to be the victim of it. White men do, at times, face some individual prejudice of people, but this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about societal, cultural flaws in America.

White men are the default American, and the rest of the country is forced to live in their shadow and with them in power. White men, to no fault of their own, often have a hard time understanding racism and sexism on the same level as someone who has lived it. I am not marking white men with any negative terms or blanketing them in any way, but this is simply a fact of American culture. It needs to change, but it can't until those in power (guess who?) understand the struggles that other groups face, that they never will have to.

Even though most have forgotten this heritage:
Irish white men were the victims of much prejudice. German-Americans(who were white) were given much prejudice at once. There are many women in our government. Some of the biggest celebrities are of a minority and/or female. They obviously have much influence among the people at least. Of course they have wealth. In truth, the reason why there aren't as many minorities in the government is their cultures. Hispanics and blacks come from cultures of many artistic practices. Whites come from an ancient culture of conquerors and chieftains who fought many wars against each other and whose biggest dreams were power. As such culture is usually what decides many of our choices in life. But as the cultures continue to merge, more minorities are entering the government.

When you see a white person, do you think "Oh, they look Irish/German/etc"? No, German-Americans, Irish-Americans, and Italian-Americans all share the same privilege. Where you are a McConnell, Bach, or Bruno, if your skin is white, then you share the same privilege. Was it always like this? No, but we are not talking about always, we are talking about today.

The people in power, but a vast majority, are white males. The amount of celebrities who are of a minority race make no difference, and they just face prejudice. When I Love Lucy was on air, and there was a famous Hispanic on television every night, it did not mean that Americans suddenly were open and accepting of Hispanic culture, for instance.

You do realize less than one percent of Americans describe themselves as outright racist? I think that proves our acceptance. You said it yourself, we're not talking about always, we're talking about today. Sexism and racism still happen but are nowhere the levels your arguments imply them to be. They used to be that way, but not anymore. You also obviously didn't get my culture argument. I was implying that maybe minorities aren't just as interested in government as much as whites. That's why not as many of them apply themselves to government and politics. That has a great deal to do with it.

[Tergnitz]

8. The US military's Rules of Engagement are semi-suicidal in the modern battlefield. If they're armed, you should be able to fire on them even if they haven't fired on you yet.

So what do you do when the enemy is hiding amongst civilians, just kill everyone in the country?

It worked during the 19th Century in the Philippines, no reason why it shouldn’t work nowadays as well.

[Aldarminia]

8. The US military's Rules of Engagement are semi-suicidal in the modern battlefield. If they're armed, you should be able to fire on them even if they haven't fired on you yet.

So what do you do when the enemy is hiding amongst civilians, just kill everyone in the country?

It worked during the 19th Century in the Philippines, no reason why it shouldn’t work nowadays as well.

I already explained that a few pages or so back.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Oh, here's another one I have. I believe that sometimes, ethics do nothing but hold back the progress of science. We are so concerned about people's minor philosophical quandaries that we hold off on GM or stem-cell research. Keep in mind that these "ethical" concerns aren't necessarily about the harm that these practices cause, but rather that these particular lines of research strike a chord with people's personal philosophies (which is their problem, not the scientist's) and we have to waste time pissing around until they can be comfortable with it.

[Aldarminia]

Oh, here's another one I have. I believe that sometimes, ethics do nothing but hold back the progress of science. We are so concerned about people's minor philosophical quandaries that we hold off on GM or stem-cell research. Keep in mind that these "ethical" concerns aren't necessarily about the harm that these practices cause, but rather that these particular lines of research strike a chord with people's personal philosophies (which is their problem, not the scientist's) and we have to waste time pissing around until they can be comfortable with it.

I agree. I'm all for stem-cell research. And I'm a Christian.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Being what way? I did not say that they are all stupid or anything, I simply said that because of the culture that white American grew up in, I don't think most of them understand sexism, racism, and other forms of prejudice as well as someone who would have faced it, and so I generally don't give their words as much merit as I would to someone who has faced these prejudices. I am white, so I will not understand what it is to be the victim of American prejudice as a black person would. I am a woman, however, and therefore, I will understand sexism better than a man ever could hope to. They can understand what it is and the general concept of it, but they will not ever know what it is to be the victim of it. White men do, at times, face some individual prejudice of people, but this is not what I am talking about. I am talking about societal, cultural flaws in America.

White men are the default American, and the rest of the country is forced to live in their shadow and with them in power. White men, to no fault of their own, often have a hard time understanding racism and sexism on the same level as someone who has lived it. I am not marking white men with any negative terms or blanketing them in any way, but this is simply a fact of American culture. It needs to change, but it can't until those in power (guess who?) understand the struggles that other groups face, that they never will have to.

I am a white American who does have the experience of being a racial minority. I lived in China for a year and a half.

It is annoying when you are a walking spectacle because of your race.
It is annoying when you go to the store and none of the products are intended for you.
It is annoying when you are looking for work in a society where you don't fit in.

It is not the unspeakable outrage that minorities in the U.S. make it out to be. I understand what people are complaining about, but sometimes they just need to take it down a notch and learn some class. I don't appreciate the closed-mindedness of some black person or Latino telling me I don't know what they go through because I am white and they can't conceive the possibility that I have ever been anything except your stereotypical sheltered white American.

You are walking a fine line between providing a legitimate analysis of American society and making a closed-minded generalization.

I didn't make myself clear, and I'm sorry for that. When I stated that this is directed at Americans, I did not take into consideration those who had lived for an extended period in a country where they were the minority, and I apologize for that. However, I was speaking about Americans who had never lived for an extended period of time in another country. I don't know much about China and so I am afraid that I will have to accept your criticism without argument.

No need to apologize. You did say men "often have a hard time understanding," not "can't understand," so you weren't actually wrong.

[Nazi Flower Power]

You do realize less than one percent of Americans describe themselves as outright racist? I think that proves our acceptance.

People aren't very honest when they describe themselves.

[Tungookska]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

so did every other modern country

[Aldarminia]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

so did every other modern country

What?

@Nazi, by outright I mean openly and racist to all other rces and completely racist.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

People aren't very honest when they describe themselves.

Yeah, humans are great with self-serving justifications and other defense mechanisms.

[Tungookska]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

so did every other modern country

What?

@Nazi, by outright I mean openly and racist to all other rces and completely racist.

By nazi you mean the National Socialist political party.

[Sun Aut Ex]

(The following applies to America, not so much the rest of the world.)
White men control the majority of the government, but I don't trust them as much as I trust other groups and believe that they lack a good knowledge of what it is like to feel prejudiced against. So, when white men try to talk about what it is to be victims of a social flaw, such as racism or sexism, I generally lose respect for what they are saying. It doesn't have much merit with me. I honestly think the majority of them need to be more willing to listen to minority groups and understand the cultures and ideas of other groups than they are willing to do. The rest of America knows the ideas and general culture of white, male Americans - everyone else lives with them as the default! However, because of the history of this country and the racism and sexism that still exist today, white men are probably always going to hold the most power. *sigh* It's a shame.

That isn't politically incorrect at all.

In fact, it's actually politically CORRECT.

[Roan Cara]

Stereotypes are true more often than not, especially when the stereotyped subculture does it's even damnedest to live up to the stereotype.

so you really do kill kittens, eat babies, and screw goats? Riiiiiiiiiiiight lol

[Tungookska]

(The following applies to America, not so much the rest of the world.)
White men control the majority of the government, but I don't trust them as much as I trust other groups and believe that they lack a good knowledge of what it is like to feel prejudiced against. So, when white men try to talk about what it is to be victims of a social flaw, such as racism or sexism, I generally lose respect for what they are saying. It doesn't have much merit with me. I honestly think the majority of them need to be more willing to listen to minority groups and understand the cultures and ideas of other groups than they are willing to do. The rest of America knows the ideas and general culture of white, male Americans - everyone else lives with them as the default! However, because of the history of this country and the racism and sexism that still exist today, white men are probably always going to hold the most power. *sigh* It's a shame.

That isn't politically incorrect at all.

In fact, it's actually politically CORRECT.

yes it is politically correct to discrimiate against white males

[Aldarminia]

that retards should be kept out of the public school system, and probably should be killed as soon as they're discovered to be retarded.

Nazis did that.

THE MORE YOU KNOW!

so did every other modern country

What?

@Nazi, by outright I mean openly and racist to all other rces and completely racist.

By nazi you mean the National Socialist political party.

I was directing the "@Nazi" part at nazi Flower Power.

[Sun Aut Ex]

yes it is politically correct to discrimiate against white males

Yes, it is.

[Aldarminia]

So some people can discriminate against one race, but you can't discriminate against others? That's racist and does not follow civil rights.

[Roan Cara]

yes it is politically correct to discrimiate against white males

Yes, it is.

I wouldn't say it is politically correct per se but I do think that is very widely socially accepted practice

[Lackadaisical2]

Stereotypes are true more often than not, especially when the stereotyped subculture does it's even damnedest to live up to the stereotype.

so you really do kill kittens, eat babies, and screw goats? Riiiiiiiiiiiight lol

Don't forget the pig too