What are your most politically incorrect beleifs?

[Panzerjaeger]

Of course. It would be stupid not to. The situation I was refering to was if the father could provide an livable income for the entire family for until the children entered grade school. I happen to have had to the opposite play out for me. My mother had a higher paying job so my father stayed home with my sister and me. We did just fine, and had no money troubles.

OK, you're being reasonable. This isn't fun anymore.

*pouts*

GET BACK IN THAT KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A STAKE WOMAN! Is that better?

Indeed. I'm afraid that I couldn't bring myself to marry a woman who wouldn't support my vampire-hunting hobbies.

Though how you knew that factoid is troubling.

He is probably a vampire. We should kill him before he can escape and alert his Coven.

[Kreanoltha]

Of course. It would be stupid not to. The situation I was refering to was if the father could provide an livable income for the entire family for until the children entered grade school. I happen to have had to the opposite play out for me. My mother had a higher paying job so my father stayed home with my sister and me. We did just fine, and had no money troubles.

OK, you're being reasonable. This isn't fun anymore.

*pouts*

GET BACK IN THAT KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A STAKE WOMAN! Is that better?

Indeed. I'm afraid that I couldn't bring myself to marry a woman who wouldn't support my vampire-hunting hobbies.

Though how you knew that factoid is troubling.

Crap! I misspelled steak. This is troubling. Now I'm going to get a round, splintery piece of wood instead of a thick juicy piece of beef...

GET BACK IN THAT KITCHEN AND BRING ME MY MEAT WOMAN!

[New Amerik]

Of course. It would be stupid not to. The situation I was refering to was if the father could provide an livable income for the entire family for until the children entered grade school. I happen to have had to the opposite play out for me. My mother had a higher paying job so my father stayed home with my sister and me. We did just fine, and had no money troubles.

OK, you're being reasonable. This isn't fun anymore.

*pouts*

GET BACK IN THAT KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A STAKE WOMAN! Is that better?

Indeed. I'm afraid that I couldn't bring myself to marry a woman who wouldn't support my vampire-hunting hobbies.

Though how you knew that factoid is troubling.

Crap! I misspelled steak. This is troubling. Now I'm going to get a round, splintery piece of wood instead of a thick juicy piece of beef...

GET BACK IN THAT KITCHEN AND BRING ME MY MEAT WOMAN!

Generally, in a relationship it's the man who's supposed to have the meat, not the woman...

[Dark Side Messiahs]

What about the father?

The "proper place of a woman" argument tends to bother me, a bit. Surely a father has as much an obligation to raise children as a mother, right?

If the father can make more money than the mother he should be earning his family's income.

And what about the situation of the father working 2-3 minimum wage jobs that can't quite pay the bills? Is the woman allowed the leave the kitchen once we've hit that kind of DEFCON 1?

Women outside the kitchen? HERESY!

She made awful sammiches. It's for the best.

Thanks Kreanoltha, the support is welcome.

What about the father? He needs to get off his lazy ass and find something better than 2-3 minimum wage jobs that can't quite pay the bills. Education, while costly in some cases, is key to being able to support your family and they have financial aid for that very thing.

This isn't a sexist argument where I am saying that women belong solely in the kitchen, I'm saying that women need to think about what's really important; their kids or their corner office. Someone needs to be there for those kids and as their primary caregiver, which is how they are viewed under law and by society, mothers have an obligation to their children. Does this mean they shouldn't be allowed to work, not in the slightest but they do need to choose which is more important to them. Once the kids hit grade school level there are options to work from home but until the children reach that age they need someone to look out for them and be home when they get home from school.

Parents seem to have fallen into a place where family isn't as important as work; is this view forced on them by their employer, probably but that is no excuse... family comes first. In today's society, its hard to find a stay at home mom or stay at home dad regularly. They hand their kids over to strangers to take care of instead of taking on the responsibility of being a parent themselves.

[Nazi Flower Power]

This is going to piss a few people off but I don't care...

I believe women should have to choose between family life or having a career; if you're a woman who works and wants to be a mother than you must decide what is more important to you. No more having kids and then putting your job before them; as a mother, your children are your job.

I had a very good stay at home dad, so my mom really didn't have to choose. If a woman marries a guy who does not like to hang around the house with the kids then she might want to avoid working long hours.

People need to think about this before they get married.

[Nazi Flower Power]

What about the father?

The "proper place of a woman" argument tends to bother me, a bit. Surely a father has as much an obligation to raise children as a mother, right?

If the father can make more money than the mother he should be earning his family's income.

And if the woman can make more money? Most of the guys I've dated made less than I do.

[Coccygia]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

[Tungookska]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

[Coccygia]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

In some places, maybe, but you know perfectly well what I meant.

[Tungookska]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

In some places, maybe, but you know perfectly well what I meant.

so does that make polygamists better or worse than rasing kids then the gays?

[Coccygia]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

In some places, maybe, but you know perfectly well what I meant.

so does that make polygamists better or worse than raising kids then the gays?

Oh, now you got me confused...

Anyway, I don't say that gay couples or single parents shouldn't have kids, just that the heterodual¹ family unit is preferable.


[sup]1[/sup} You like? I just made it up.

[Tungookska]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

In some places, maybe, but you know perfectly well what I meant.

so does that make polygamists better or worse than raising kids then the gays?

Oh, now you got me confused...

Anyway, I don't say that gay couples or single parents shouldn't have kids, just that the heterodual¹ family unit is preferable.


[sup]1[/sup} You like? I just made it up.

but why would it be preferable

[EvilDarkMagicians]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

Got any sources or an insight to why you think this?

[Waterlow]

I actually want to kill Jack Straw. Disembowel him and eat every last scrap of his flesh before vomiting it back on his children's heads.

[Coccygia]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

Got any sources or an insight to why you think this?

It's what humans were designed for (by evolution, not Jehovah or Ben Stein).

[Tokos]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

one man more than one woman is more 'traditional' than monogamy

Depends on where you're from. Might as well say peyote is more traditional than beer.

The idea of women staying at home and not working is one borne of luxury. Traditionally women would work; it is just that the man would usually be the primary breadwinner. Not the sole breadwinner.

[Tungookska]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

Got any sources or an insight to why you think this?

It's what humans were designed for (by evolution, not Jehovah or Ben Stein).

polygamy isnt?

[Coccygia]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

Got any sources or an insight to why you think this?

It's what humans were designed for (by evolution, not Jehovah or Ben Stein).

polygamy isnt?

Nope. Anyway, it's illegal in most countries except the Islamic world.

[Tungookska]

A traditional two-parent (man and woman, married) family is the best option for a child. (I know I'm gonna get it for this one. Almost a bad as defending notorious mass murderer Rachel Carson...)

Got any sources or an insight to why you think this?

It's what humans were designed for (by evolution, not Jehovah or Ben Stein).

polygamy isnt?

Nope. Anyway, it's illegal in most countries except the Islamic world.

yes, and non islamic countries claim to be bastions of freedom

[South Kirkcaldy]

I actually want to kill Jack Straw. Disembowel him and eat every last scrap of his flesh before vomiting it back on his children's heads.

He's not my favorite politician, but why do you want to...well, do everything you mentioned above?

[Kreanoltha]

What about the father?

The "proper place of a woman" argument tends to bother me, a bit. Surely a father has as much an obligation to raise children as a mother, right?

If the father can make more money than the mother he should be earning his family's income.

And if the woman can make more money? Most of the guys I've dated made less than I do.

Did you purposely stop reading my posts after you read this one? Here's what I wrote latter:

Of course. It would be stupid not to. The situation I was referring to was if the father could provide an livable income for the entire family for until the children entered grade school. I happen to have had to the opposite play out for me. My mother had a higher paying job so my father stayed home with my sister and me. We did just fine, and had no money troubles.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Did you purposely stop reading my posts after you read this one? Here's what I wrote latter:

Of course. It would be stupid not to. The situation I was referring to was if the father could provide an livable income for the entire family for until the children entered grade school. I happen to have had to the opposite play out for me. My mother had a higher paying job so my father stayed home with my sister and me. We did just fine, and had no money troubles.

I wasn't paying attention. My bad.

[Bajireyn]

Political Correctness is a load of BS

Why do you say that? Someone yell at you for calling someone a retard?

no...

[Twisted twister]

Assasinate Kim Jong
Assasinate Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

[Tokos]

polygamy isnt?

Not unless you want huge social upheaval with vast numbers of very pissed-off men.

Polygamy only works if it's the really Big Men who are allowed.