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26% of the U.S. don't know who we declared independence from

Postby Bei Song » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:48 pm

According to this poll, 26% of U.S. don't know that we declared independence from Great Britain:

There’s good news for American education. About three-quarters of residents — 74% — know the U.S. declared its independence from Great Britain in 1776. The bad news for the academic system — 26% do not. This 26% includes one-fifth who are unsure and 6% who thought the U.S. separated from another nation. That begs the question, “From where do the latter think the U.S. achieved its independence?” Among the countries mentioned are France, China, Japan, Mexico, and Spain.


I've always heard that Americans weren't the brightest, but when it comes to who we declared our independence from, surely we can do better than 74%?

The Declaration of Independence and the Founding Fathers were practically the first thing in American history you learn. Well, I did at least.

Are Americans really this stupid?

And yes, I am American.
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Postby Helertia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:50 pm

Bei Song wrote:
Are Americans really this stupid?


See my sig.

I read an article that said something like a third couldn't locate England on a map.
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Postby Jordaxia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:51 pm

Bei Song wrote:According to this poll, 26% of U.S. don't know that we declared independence from England



Bet you feel like a right lemon now.
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Postby Shia Majority » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:52 pm

Pretty sure America declared independence from Israel in 1948.

Wait.. nope. Still one nation.
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:52 pm

I agree; there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for not knowing that the US declared its independence from Safavid Persia.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:52 pm

Probably about 30% of the population in any large country is most likely functionally illiterate, so it's hardly surprising. I would guess if you canvased the EU - which is the only comparable economic/political block to the US - you'd find a staggering about of ignorance too. For example, Jesus is the king of Poland.
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Postby Helertia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:53 pm

Jordaxia wrote:
Bei Song wrote:According to this poll, 26% of U.S. don't know that we declared independence from England



Bet you feel like a right lemon now.


Oh, thats a good point. Lets see, we would have been the United Kingdom of Great Britain at that point (Ireland came later)
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Postby Saurisia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:53 pm

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Postby Bei Song » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:54 pm

Helertia wrote:
Bei Song wrote:
Are Americans really this stupid?


See my sig.

I read an article that said something like a third couldn't locate England on a map.


Yeah, I've read that too. I've also heard from a friend that he did a survey in his school where participants located Louisiana and Iraq, and something like 20% couldn't get Louisiana, and 50% Iraq.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:54 pm

Eh, you can get a poll to say anything. I'd be willing to bet that the results were skewed (although my bet wouldn't be that high...).
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Postby Wamitoria » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:55 pm

Bei Song wrote:Are Americans really this stupid?

Damn, more than 1/4 of Americans are 'tards.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:56 pm

My god. :palm:

Though I bet if you asked a few people around here "Where did gain independence from" they would probably name a few countries. :lol:

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Postby Avenio » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:56 pm

Saurisia wrote:Ah, the result of 50 years of educational decadence...


Ah, yes, nothing says educational decadence like 20-year-old textbooks, broken down schools and burnt out teachers. Yep. That's totally the problem here.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:56 pm

Jordaxia wrote:
Bei Song wrote:According to this poll, 26% of U.S. don't know that we declared independence from England



Bet you feel like a right lemon now.

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Postby Zende » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:57 pm

Yeah being American is the greatest. :roll: :(

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Postby Western cuba » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:58 pm

Why would we declare independence from China people are stupid we learn this in Fourth Grade!
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:59 pm

I wonder how may of the 6% who said we declared independence from a state other than Britain were just putting down what they thought would get a laugh.

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Postby Lacadaemon » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:00 pm

To be fair, most of them thought of themselves as Englishmen, and that's who they thought they were declaring independence from. The fact that it was technically the United Kingdom of Great Britain, probably didn't figure largely in anyone's though process. Mostly because Scotland didn't count (still doesn't) and doubly so for Wales.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:01 pm

Lacadaemon wrote:To be fair, most of them thought of themselves as Englishmen, and that's who they thought they were declaring independence from. The fact that it was technically the United Kingdom of Great Britain, probably didn't figure largely in anyone's though process. Mostly because Scotland didn't count (still doesn't) and doubly so for Wales.

I thought there was no United Kingdom back then. :unsure:
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Postby Jordaxia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:01 pm

Lacadaemon wrote:To be fair, most of them thought of themselves as Englishmen, and that's who they thought they were declaring independence from. The fact that it was technically the United Kingdom of Great Britain, probably didn't figure largely in anyone's though process. Mostly because Scotland didn't count (still doesn't) and doubly so for Wales.


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Postby Saurisia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:01 pm

Considering that the world economy's tanking and more and more people are becoming stupid, I say that all those smart and sane build a bunch of rockets and flee to the moon. But something tells me that we'd be screwed either way...
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Postby Jordaxia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:02 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Lacadaemon wrote:To be fair, most of them thought of themselves as Englishmen, and that's who they thought they were declaring independence from. The fact that it was technically the United Kingdom of Great Britain, probably didn't figure largely in anyone's though process. Mostly because Scotland didn't count (still doesn't) and doubly so for Wales.

I thought there was no United Kingdom back then. :unsure:


Act of Union, 1707 for your future reference. :)
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