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Should women receive the same penalty for sex with minors?

Yes.
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No.
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Postby Trippoli » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:53 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Ismon wrote:If it was consensual then she committed no crime, at least in my view!

They were minors, so there was no consent.


Boys cooperated with her. And they were teens, there was consent. Illegal, but consent.
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Postby Seperates » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:57 pm

WAY TO GO MAN! NOW YOU'RE NOT A VIRGIN! PARTY!!!!

(Seriously though, her sentence should have been longer.)
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:58 pm

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I apologize if I seemed to get too bitchy for you then, Kat.

I don't like it when people like him come into my thread. I get bitchy. Don't like that? Too bad.

Wow, just wow... You actually, when given a friendly warning by a mod responded with "Don't like it? Too bad."? :palm:
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:00 pm

Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Ismon wrote:If it was consensual then she committed no crime, at least in my view!

They were minors, so there was no consent.


Boys cooperated with her. And they were teens, there was consent. Illegal, but consent.

Again, they were minors so there was no consent.
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Postby Mindhar » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:00 pm

Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.

If you want to verify anecdotal evidence like that you have to find corroborating sources.

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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:01 pm

Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.

If you want to verify anecdotal evidence like that you have to find corroborating sources.

I heard that one too...
It must be true.
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Postby Bramborska » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:02 pm

Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.
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Postby Trippoli » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:04 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Ismon wrote:If it was consensual then she committed no crime, at least in my view!

They were minors, so there was no consent.


Boys cooperated with her. And they were teens, there was consent. Illegal, but consent.

Again, they were minors so there was no consent.


consent - To give assent, as to the proposal of another; agree. It wasn't forced.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:06 pm

Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Ismon wrote:If it was consensual then she committed no crime, at least in my view!

They were minors, so there was no consent.


Boys cooperated with her. And they were teens, there was consent. Illegal, but consent.

Again, they were minors so there was no consent.


consent - To give assent, as to the proposal of another; agree. It wasn't forced.

Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.
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Postby Xirria » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:07 pm

Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.

If you want to verify anecdotal evidence like that you have to find corroborating sources.

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Postby Trippoli » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:08 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Ismon wrote:If it was consensual then she committed no crime, at least in my view!

They were minors, so there was no consent.


Boys cooperated with her. And they were teens, there was consent. Illegal, but consent.

Again, they were minors so there was no consent.


consent - To give assent, as to the proposal of another; agree. It wasn't forced.

Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.


That is what the law says. The boys thought otherwise. I'm not giving them a slap on the back and good job but I am saying they cooperated with the women, and were not forced to partake.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:10 pm

Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.

That is what the law says.

And since this is a legal matter, that is what counts.
Trippoli wrote:The boys thought otherwise.

They were wrong.
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Postby Mindhar » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:14 pm

Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.

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Postby Bramborska » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:20 pm

Mindhar wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.


That is, quite simply, brilliant.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:23 pm

Mindhar wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.

:rofl: :clap:
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:37 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.

:rofl: :clap:
That is just awesome!

I wish I could sig the whole thing. :rofl:
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:39 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.

:rofl: :clap:
That is just awesome!

I wish I could sig the whole thing. :rofl:

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Definitely the most brilliant thing anybody's said anywhere here today.

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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:52 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Bramborska wrote:
Mindhar wrote:
Xirria wrote:I've also heard stories were older guys date younger girls and when they break up the girl will lie and say that she's been raped and get the guy in trouble, not trying to be sexist or anything it's just a story that I've heard.

I've heard stories where four hobbits, three humans, an elf and a dwarf had to go on a long journey to drop a ring in a volcano.


I'm trying to figure out how that's an euphemism for sex.

Well, the volcano crater is a big hole, which is clear vaginal imagery. Then there's the ring, which -- notice -- is possessed only by male beings throughout the novel. When Sauron has it, he's extremely powerful, but when a rival male cuts it off, he's emasculated and reduced to a shadow of his former self. (Compare the reaction of any other male upon being castrated.) It's given to Frodo upon his "coming of age" and gives him various powers (like the ability to turn invisible, i.e. masturbation) but also has downsides, making him more visible to his enemies (have you ever gotten a boner in a public place?) and exerting an influence of its own over him (how many people refer to thinking with their second head?). The goal of all his aims is to drop it into the volcano (much like any other male, coming of age, seeking to insert an implement that both empowers him and alters his thinking, sometimes leading to personal harm or embarrassment, into a warm hole).

That's right -- The Lord of the Rings is an extended metaphor for Frodo Baggins's quest for poontang. If anyone needs a doctoral thesis in the humanities, just call me.

:rofl: :clap:
That is just awesome!

I wish I could sig the whole thing. :rofl:

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Postby Quelesh » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:41 pm

I don't understand the urge to punish this woman. Of all the things that it's possible to do to another human being, giving them an orgasm is among the best, not the worst. Note that I'm not being sexist here; I would say the same if the sexes were reversed.

Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.

That is what the law says.

And since this is a legal matter, that is what counts.
Trippoli wrote:The boys thought otherwise.

They were wrong.


I think what he is saying is that the statutory assumption made by the law in Florida (that every single human being in Florida does not possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity until midnight on his or her eighteenth birthday, at which moment every person in Florida suddenly gains that capacity) is incorrect and that, in this case, the young people involved did in fact possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity, despite the statutory assumption otherwise made by the law.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 am

Quelesh wrote:I don't understand the urge to punish this woman. Of all the things that it's possible to do to another human being, giving them an orgasm is among the best, not the worst.

Because she broke the law and abused her position.
Quelesh wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.

That is what the law says.

And since this is a legal matter, that is what counts.
Trippoli wrote:The boys thought otherwise.

They were wrong.


I think what he is saying is that the statutory assumption made by the law in Florida (that every single human being in Florida does not possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity until midnight on his or her eighteenth birthday, at which moment every person in Florida suddenly gains that capacity) is incorrect and that, in this case, the young people involved did in fact possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity, despite the statutory assumption otherwise made by the law.

And yet for some reason when addressing legal matters it is the law that matters... Don't like the law? Work to get it changed.
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Postby Quelesh » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:42 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Quelesh wrote:I don't understand the urge to punish this woman. Of all the things that it's possible to do to another human being, giving them an orgasm is among the best, not the worst.

Because she broke the law and abused her position.


Well, she certainly broke the law. Whether she abused her position is debatable.

Dyakovo wrote:
Quelesh wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Trippoli wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Again, they were minors, there was no consent. The age of consent is 18 in Florida.

That is what the law says.

And since this is a legal matter, that is what counts.
Trippoli wrote:The boys thought otherwise.

They were wrong.


I think what he is saying is that the statutory assumption made by the law in Florida (that every single human being in Florida does not possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity until midnight on his or her eighteenth birthday, at which moment every person in Florida suddenly gains that capacity) is incorrect and that, in this case, the young people involved did in fact possess the cognitive capacity necessary to grant informed consent to sexual activity, despite the statutory assumption otherwise made by the law.

And yet for some reason when addressing legal matters it is the law that matters... Don't like the law? Work to get it changed.


I agree that working to get laws with which we disagree changed is an appropriate course of action. The point is that the text printed in a law book does not affect a person's actual maturity, intelligence or capacity to reason.

Laws which criminalize activity that is actually (though not legally) consensual should be changed, because such laws are morally wrong, and until such laws are changed, they should not be enforced, because their enforcement is morally wrong.

I'm speaking in general terms here; in this particular case, I don't know if the young men involved actually consented (I know they did not legally consent), because I don't know them or anything about them.
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Postby Turan devleti » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:53 am

the gender equality at the end led to the opression of males >:(

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Postby Jaunty tunes » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:58 am

It is sadly a reaction of our social codes. If a drunk male has sex he got drunk to take mingle in and find a female for sex. If a drunk female has sex she was taken advantage of.

It a schoolboy has a sexual relationship with a female teacher the schoolboy got lucky. If a schoolgirl has a sexual relationship with a male teacher the schoolgirl got raped.

If a married man claims rape he must prove that a knife (or something similar) was against his throat or people assume he was cheating. If a married female claims rape she only needs to show a brusie or two. For a male that just proves they were into BDSM

The evidence to prosecute a male or female is similarly skewed. I am not surprised with the light scentence because if the female teacher had sex with a student she was :sarcasm: obviously :sarcasm: under some kind of stress or suffered from nymphomania (for a male we call is horny or seedy).

A male could not possibly hold such a defence to use it as a mitigating factor.

Interesting side note. I know that females have used nyphomania as a defence in western courts for sex charges but can anyone find a case of a male succesfully using the same defence? If not it just shows that even the professional psychological perspective of rape is skewed against males.

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