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Postby Taxet » Tue May 12, 2009 12:39 pm

I'm not ashamed nor proud to be Finnish.

I like to think myself as neutral on the subject. There's something good and something bad. Nice balance.

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Postby Trve » Tue May 12, 2009 12:40 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:I have a sneaking suspicion that the phrase "I'm ashamed to be Swedish" has never been said, and never will be.


Well, that might be because the Swedish are some of the most nationalistic people on earth. But that aside, anyone who thinks Sweden is perfect is delusional. Its far from it.
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Postby Verdigroth » Tue May 12, 2009 7:26 pm

ReAmerica wrote:American, because just over half my countrymen voted for Barrack Hussein Obama. :oops:


ditto because people actually voted for Palin for Pres
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Postby Verdigroth » Tue May 12, 2009 7:28 pm

Dontgonearthere wrote:I'm ashamed to be a necrophi-
Nevermind.

has my vote for the win
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Postby Pope Joan » Tue May 12, 2009 7:36 pm

There's room enough for shame in any country; human nature just has its dark side, that's all.
Go anywhere, America included, and you'll find it.
But I get annoyed when America gets singled out; after all, we have had a more daring experiment with racial equality than any other ever attempted.
I sat in the living room of a german gymnasium history teacher who railed at me about how racist we were since blacks and whites were fighting. OK it happened but at least we try to make it work. Now how are you doing with those imported Turk laborers, Herr professor?
Or you self righteous Brits, are you getting along peaceably with your resident Muslims now? Hah, you thought you were advanced and enlightened when you, in recent memory, decided to start tolerating such "ethnic minorities" as the Scots and the Welsh (my people.).

How veddy condescending of you.
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Postby Golugan » Tue May 12, 2009 7:41 pm

ReAmerica wrote:American, because just over half my countrymen voted for Barrack Hussein Obama. :oops:
American, because everyone who isn't sees us as people like this.
In the old days, when RP was active, MT nations had elves. I'm going to try to revive quality RP by bringing elves back to MT. Of course, these elves are going to be sociopaths that view humans as animals, but that's the sort of conflict that helps drive a story. Oh, and the child-nappings.

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Postby Burnsantium » Tue May 12, 2009 7:46 pm

...a 22 year old guy that sees the Disney Channel girls and has dirty thoughts. When I found out over half these girls were born after the fall of the Soviet Union, I felt....dirty. Ugh.

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Postby Verdigroth » Tue May 12, 2009 7:49 pm

Burnsantium wrote:...a 22 year old guy that sees the Disney Channel girls and has dirty thoughts. When I found out over half these girls were born after the fall of the Soviet Union, I felt....dirty. Ugh.


yeah well, wait until they turn 18 then they will be dirty too...at least that is the way it seems to be happening...course that could just be child celebrities in general
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Postby Golugan » Tue May 12, 2009 7:50 pm

Velkya wrote:Ashamed to be a human being.

Seriously, we're a fucked up lot.
I refer you to the motto of my in-game nation.
In the old days, when RP was active, MT nations had elves. I'm going to try to revive quality RP by bringing elves back to MT. Of course, these elves are going to be sociopaths that view humans as animals, but that's the sort of conflict that helps drive a story. Oh, and the child-nappings.

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Postby Tobelade » Wed May 13, 2009 12:17 am

Tubbsalot wrote:Australian, not because we're idiots or even that we're perceived as that, but because our government is regressive and moronic no matter which party we vote into office.

>sigh< To true, I'm afraid. Kevin Rudd really screwed up. So did John Howard. And just about all of the rest of them.
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Postby Collinstan » Wed May 13, 2009 12:26 am

I am proud to be an American, I am just ashamed there are so many idiots here, although I suppose are ratio of idiots to normal people is about the same as the rest of the world. I should be ashamed that these idiots get so much undeserved press and media coverage and are not just told to shut up and then ignored.

I suppose I am ashamed to be a part of teh internetz. I wonder if anybody has ever committed suicide after first "discovering" the internet, and realizing how ****ed up humanity actually is at the moment.
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Postby Picky rich kids » Wed May 13, 2009 12:30 am

I'm ashamed that I'm mentally undressing every hot girl i see

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Postby Ferrous Oxide » Wed May 13, 2009 12:31 am

Saint Jade IV wrote:I was thinking about this the other day when they had a news story regarding the Cronulla Race Riots on a current affairs show. That day made me, for the first time in my life, totally ashamed to be an Australian. To see groups of Australians attacking anyone different, and to hear politicians and other personalities daring to support or defend their actions in any way, or blaming the victims for not being "Australian" enough sickened me. To hear friends and relatives defending the actions made me feel even worse.


Hey, they started it.

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Postby Yrjar » Wed May 13, 2009 12:33 am

I am proud of being a scandinavian, but today I am also ashamed over how stupid the goverment are sometimes. And i am ashamed to be a democratic socialist, like most people here are.

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Postby Collinstan » Wed May 13, 2009 12:35 am

Picky rich kids wrote:I'm ashamed that I'm mentally undressing every hot girl i see


Eh, I think that is something to be proud of. :D

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Postby Saint Jade IV » Wed May 13, 2009 12:37 am

Ferrous Oxide wrote:
Saint Jade IV wrote:I was thinking about this the other day when they had a news story regarding the Cronulla Race Riots on a current affairs show. That day made me, for the first time in my life, totally ashamed to be an Australian. To see groups of Australians attacking anyone different, and to hear politicians and other personalities daring to support or defend their actions in any way, or blaming the victims for not being "Australian" enough sickened me. To hear friends and relatives defending the actions made me feel even worse.


Hey, they started it.


You are trolling. Who is "they" in this scenario? And what did "they" start? Unless you're being sarcastic.
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Postby Picky rich kids » Wed May 13, 2009 12:37 am

Not when its becoming too addicting @@

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Postby Ferrous Oxide » Wed May 13, 2009 12:42 am

Saint Jade IV wrote:
Ferrous Oxide wrote:
Saint Jade IV wrote:I was thinking about this the other day when they had a news story regarding the Cronulla Race Riots on a current affairs show. That day made me, for the first time in my life, totally ashamed to be an Australian. To see groups of Australians attacking anyone different, and to hear politicians and other personalities daring to support or defend their actions in any way, or blaming the victims for not being "Australian" enough sickened me. To hear friends and relatives defending the actions made me feel even worse.


Hey, they started it.


You are trolling. Who is "they" in this scenario? And what did "they" start? Unless you're being sarcastic.


"They". You know, those people that you liberals like to call the "oppressed victims of whitey". They attacked surf lifesavers. You don't fucking do that. It's like going to America and shitting on the Statue of Liberty.

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Postby Saint Jade IV » Wed May 13, 2009 12:46 am

Ferrous Oxide wrote:
"They". You know, those people that you liberals like to call the "oppressed victims of whitey". They attacked surf lifesavers. You don't fucking do that. It's like going to America and shitting on the Statue of Liberty.


I wasn't aware that the dozens of people that were attacked on that day were all collectively responsible for the attacks on the lifesavers.
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It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of son of a b*tch or another.
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Postby Golugan » Wed May 13, 2009 12:51 am

Saint Jade IV wrote:
Ferrous Oxide wrote:
"They". You know, those people that you liberals like to call the "oppressed victims of whitey". They attacked surf lifesavers. You don't fucking do that. It's like going to America and shitting on the Statue of Liberty.


I wasn't aware that the dozens of people that were attacked on that day were all collectively responsible for the attacks on the lifesavers.
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Now that that snark is out of my system, I would also like to add that I'm ashamed to be a nonvoter today. I just couldn't bring myself to cast based on uninformed opinions!
In the old days, when RP was active, MT nations had elves. I'm going to try to revive quality RP by bringing elves back to MT. Of course, these elves are going to be sociopaths that view humans as animals, but that's the sort of conflict that helps drive a story. Oh, and the child-nappings.

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Postby Zicrious » Wed May 13, 2009 1:30 am

Saint Jade IV wrote:I was thinking about this the other day when they had a news story regarding the Cronulla Race Riots on a current affairs show. That day made me, for the first time in my life, totally ashamed to be an Australian. To see groups of Australians attacking anyone different, and to hear politicians and other personalities daring to support or defend their actions in any way, or blaming the victims for not being "Australian" enough sickened me. To hear friends and relatives defending the actions made me feel even worse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

What events have made you ashamed of your country? If you have never felt this, why not? Is there a case to be made that you can't help where you are born, so it's silly to feel any way other than neutral about it?


Maybe they rioted because they were sick of the Lebanese and Syrians disrespecting the country that let them in with open arms? And persisted to harass women onthe the beach's calling them "dogs" and "whores" and eventually leading to rape. You may be soft and ashamed to be an Australian and a cowardly soft**** but when I see my country and my people under attack I will defend it with my life.

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Postby Saint Jade IV » Wed May 13, 2009 1:55 am

Zicrious wrote:
Saint Jade IV wrote:I was thinking about this the other day when they had a news story regarding the Cronulla Race Riots on a current affairs show. That day made me, for the first time in my life, totally ashamed to be an Australian. To see groups of Australians attacking anyone different, and to hear politicians and other personalities daring to support or defend their actions in any way, or blaming the victims for not being "Australian" enough sickened me. To hear friends and relatives defending the actions made me feel even worse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots

What events have made you ashamed of your country? If you have never felt this, why not? Is there a case to be made that you can't help where you are born, so it's silly to feel any way other than neutral about it?


Maybe they rioted because they were sick of the Lebanese and Syrians disrespecting the country that let them in with open arms? And persisted to harass women onthe the beach's calling them "dogs" and "whores" and eventually leading to rape. You may be soft and ashamed to be an Australian and a cowardly soft**** but when I see my country and my people under attack I will defend it with my life.


So the Australians who rioted managed to work out through some special psychic ability who had caused problems on the beach and who hadn't? Or were they just, as they said, attacking anyone who looked like their ridiculously incorrect image of "Middle Eastern", including Greeks, Italians, Lebanese, Eastern Europeans and others who had no affiliation with those few who caused problems.

I have no idea how this led to rape. At all.

I don't see our country coming under attack. Noone has declared war on us. Some people who were too big for their boots decided to mouth off. And we let our racist colours fly as a result. Never mind that I have heard many white Australians treat women like this. Never mind that the Mormon church practically preaches this as their doctrine. Those few people on that beach looked different from us. So lets get them.

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It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of son of a b*tch or another.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 13, 2009 10:44 am

At his moment - Dutch. Because of our entry into the Eurovision Song Contest.
Oh dear.
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Postby Golugan » Wed May 13, 2009 10:46 am

The Alma Mater wrote:At his moment - Dutch. Because of our entry into the Eurovision Song Contest.
Oh dear.
Clearly, I've missed something. Care to elaborate?
In the old days, when RP was active, MT nations had elves. I'm going to try to revive quality RP by bringing elves back to MT. Of course, these elves are going to be sociopaths that view humans as animals, but that's the sort of conflict that helps drive a story. Oh, and the child-nappings.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed May 13, 2009 10:56 am

Golugan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:At his moment - Dutch. Because of our entry into the Eurovision Song Contest.
Oh dear.
Clearly, I've missed something. Care to elaborate?


First, some background:
The Eurovision Song Contest is a yearly event where selected nations of Europe, including Israel (yes, there is a reason for this), send a singing act meant to defend their countries honour, which is shown on tv, on primetime, in practically every participating nation. The inhabitants of said nations can then vote (for instance through sms texting) which performance they considered best. Those votes lead to points, points lead to wins or losses.
The voting is incredibly rigged - the eastern European nations all tend to vote for eachother, the Netherlands and Belgium tend to shove a few points to eachother and so on. Ireland commented nciely on this by sending "Dustin the Turkey" in a previous edition.

This year the Netherlands have decided to send "the Toppers"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te1w81E8L5A

We apologise.
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