Evolution Test

[Yootopia]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

[Niur]

The fact that the author of this bullshit thinks that a male or female had to evolve first in a species for evolution to work is sad... Niur, a biologist could explain this to you much better than I can, but sex chromosomes are what make evolution possible. Without birth and rebirth in a species, nothing would change (obviously). One sex couldn't have evolved without the other. Period. That is why we don't see "monosex" (I feel there is a word for that, but I can't remember what it is) species (unless they have some mechanism to fertilise their own eggs). The author also assumes that different parts of the body had to evolve one at a time, which is dumb.

Nope. Check how single cell life still reproduces to this day. It's via mitosis rather than meiosis and sexual reproduction.

Your making a broad assumption. Some single celled organisms do reproduce sexually, albeit in a much different manner than humans.

[Daistallia 2104]

Which evolved first, male or female?

Neither.

How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female?

None.

Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years?

Because evolution doesn't work like that.

Which came first:
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light?

Easy one!
In order:
photoreceptor cells
"pinhole camera eye"
eye muscles
eye lid
lens
brain
eye socket
tear ducts
eye lashes

(Been a while since my last bio class, the experts out there may wish to slightly reorder that list.)

If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring?

Because by the very definition, species can't do so.

Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.)

Asd a producet of humans, coins are inherently more complex.

Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today?

They are. Just because the process is too slow for you to see results doesn't mean it's not happening.

Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution?

Because the people offering the rewards have defined their challenges in ways that can't be fulfilled.

If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?

This assumes facts not in eveidence.

Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?

Because the conditions are not the same everywhere.

[Sarkhaan]

I quite like question five, anyone care to answer it, because the secular side of my brain is frankly stumped

The answer is likely "none of the above". IIRC, the sense of sight started with light-sensitive flame cells on flat worms that probably utilized an already existing nervous pathway.

[Niur]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

STOP MAKING MY HEAD ASPLOAD, PEOPLEZ!111!1!

[DaWoad]

1. Which evolved first, male or female?
2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female?
3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods.
4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years?
5. Which came first:
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light?
6. How many millions of years between each in question 5?
7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring?
8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution!
9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing?
10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.)
11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today?
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body.
13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution?
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?
15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?

1.if you're talking about the first sex to sexually differentiate? Technically female but only very very technically. (early "female" species would have been capable of asexual reproduction so until the first male "Evolved" they were pretty much just asexual organisms. In humans? who knows. In our common ancestor? well every human alive today can trace their ancestry back to a female that was born a few million years before the male we can trace our ancestry to but that by no means means females evolved first.
2.Can't remember in the case of our common ancestry the others. . .nobody knows AFAIK but it would have been within a couple of generations (except in the case mentioned previously where the first "female" is only truly female at the same moment in time that the first organism capable of donating genetic information is born).
3. Dunno that much about Radio-carbon dating outside of the chemical aspect.
4 Because they went extinct specifically because they Were no longer the species best suited to their environmental "niche". Given that the niche has continued to change they would be even less suited to their niche
5.The "eye" though calling a set of photosensitive cells an "eye" is stretching it a little then interpretation.
6.not sure not long between the first two, after that I'm not sure. . . I mean in some species an eye "socket" never really evolved and in others they have no eyelid etc.
7. Genetic mutation amplified by evolution over the course of millions of years.
8. I'm not sure what a "stage" of evolution is
9.They aren't. It's just that every time a transition form creationists rejoice because they can now ask for two MORE transitional forms
10. Argument invalid. "chance" is not involved.
11.they are.
12.i can't?
13.Because a genuine proof of evolution requires a massive amount of time and funding.
14.a few reasons. 1. the earth continues to change, 2. there was an ElE a relatively "short" time ago 3.there is no "ultimate evolved form" no ubermench if you will.
15.because each continent has a different environment. More importantly mutations (though not evolution) are essentially random meaning that the odds of two species being identical on two seperate continent are ridiculously slim.

[Farnhamia]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

STOP MAKING MY HEAD ASPLOAD, PEOPLEZ!111!1!

So are tribbles.

[Sarkhaan]

Darwin sucks dick. You know what? You all fucking suck dick. Fuck nationstates, fuck all you liberal dipshits, and fuck all you dumbfucks that voted for Obama.

And how did that make you feel?

The fact that the author of this bullshit thinks that a male or female had to evolve first in a species for evolution to work is sad... Niur, a biologist could explain this to you much better than I can, but sex chromosomes are what make evolution possible. Without birth and rebirth in a species, nothing would change (obviously). One sex couldn't have evolved without the other. Period. That is why we don't see "monosex" (I feel there is a word for that, but I can't remember what it is) species (unless they have some mechanism to fertilise their own eggs). The author also assumes that different parts of the body had to evolve one at a time, which is dumb.

Nope. Check how single cell life still reproduces to this day. It's via mitosis rather than meiosis and sexual reproduction.

Your making a broad assumption. Some single celled organisms do reproduce sexually, albeit in a much different manner than humans.

Okay. The vast majority of single celled organisms reproduce asexually. Point still stands, despite a minor issue. Given that mitosis was the only method of reproduction for much of life history, evolution is fully possible without birth and sex.

[Borinata]

Actually, are there are species which produce only hermaphrodites and male members and others which produce only hermaphrodites and female members. What likely came first is a switch from binary fission/budding to the production of two identical gametes (which needed to combine to form an embryo) to the production of two dissimilar gametes to the separation of gamete production into discrete sexes.

[The Adrian Empire]

I quite like question five, anyone care to answer it, because the secular side of my brain is frankly stumped

the eye, though technically it was only a photosensitive patch of cells. It would likely have interpreted light as a pain sensation.

The most likely explanation is that organisms developed light-sensitive patches called "eyespots" (not real eyes) capable of detecting light, not as a pain sensation but more to know which direction to swim in. Even today, there are single-celled organisms like the euglena with these eyespots. As the euglena is photosynthetic, you can see how light-sensitivity is a great asset. However, single-celled organisms do not have brains; those would have come much later.

Ah, thanks, you see the majority of my evolutionary knowledge comes from Spore

[Yootopia]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

STOP MAKING MY HEAD ASPLOAD, PEOPLEZ!111!1!

So are tribbles.

Name fifty vestigal organs in tribbles, or God created them.

[Kryozerkia]

Darwin sucks dick. You know what? You all fucking suck dick. Fuck nationstates, fuck all you liberal dipshits, and fuck all you dumbfucks that voted for Obama.

*** Warned for trolling. *** Now go associate yourself with the rules, or if you can't be arsed leave.

[Buffett and Colbert]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

STOP MAKING MY HEAD ASPLOAD, PEOPLEZ!111!1!

So are tribbles.

Meh, I bet all of you guys are Tribbles.

[Carls-land]

1. Which evolved first, male or female? both
2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female? none
3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods. there is none
4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years? why should they?
5. Which came first: as far as i know, either the eye sockets, or the brain's interpretation of light.
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light?
6. How many millions of years between each in question 5? i dont really know
7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring? because we evolved to far from each other
8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution! i cant remember any
9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing? hundreds of years ago, even more were missing, so we have just not found them yet
10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.) a coin is not made out of organic materials
11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today? it is
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body. i cant remember
13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution? because there is no reward, as far as i know.
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated? it's not
15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents? why should it?

[Farnhamia]

I was thinking in terms of organisms with more than one cell.

Some species of insect also reproduce by mitosis if no sexual partners are around / they have a headache.

Aphids are born pregnant.

STOP MAKING MY HEAD ASPLOAD, PEOPLEZ!111!1!

So are tribbles.

Meh, I bet all of you guys are Tribbles.

No, but I have engaged in tribadism.

[Yootopia]

Meh, I bet all of you guys are Tribbles.

No, but I have engaged in tribadism.

Did casual scissoring postpone evolution? PROBABLY.

[Niur]

To answer 12.

vermiform appendix
Coccyx
wisdom teeth
Ear muscles
Plica semilunaris
In some the Occipitalis Minor
Palmaris longus
Plantaris muscle
Pyramidalis muscle
erector pili
Vomeronasal organ
Male Breast Tissue and Nipples

[Georgism]

Darwin sucks dick. You know what? You all fucking suck dick. Fuck nationstates, fuck all you liberal dipshits, and fuck all you dumbfucks that voted for Obama.

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Obvious liberal mod bias!

[Yootopia]

To answer 12.

I'm sorry, but that's nothing like fifty, the magic number at which point God could not have been responsible for evolution because he can't micromanage to that level.

[DaWoad]

I quite like question five, anyone care to answer it, because the secular side of my brain is frankly stumped

the eye, though technically it was only a photosensitive patch of cells. It would likely have interpreted light as a pain sensation.

The most likely explanation is that organisms developed light-sensitive patches called "eyespots" (not real eyes) capable of detecting light, not as a pain sensation but more to know which direction to swim in. Even today, there are single-celled organisms like the euglena with these eyespots. As the euglena is photosynthetic, you can see how light-sensitivity is a great asset. However, single-celled organisms do not have brains; those would have come much later.

Ah, thanks, you see the majority of my evolutionary knowledge comes from Spore

Yah sorry I said "pain" but I didn't actually mean pain I mean more that it would have produced a chemical that created a response similar to physical stimuli in its original form though . . .that being said "pleasure" (again not the brain version but a chemical production that "tells" the organism to move towards the stimuli) might be closer . . .probably depended slightly on the organism. Speaking of which I'm also referring to that as the first "brain interpretation of light" though that's technically incorrect due to there being no brain (in the way we think of).

[Farnhamia]

Meh, I bet all of you guys are Tribbles.

No, but I have engaged in tribadism.

Did casual scissoring postpone evolution? PROBABLY.

Yes, probably did. Too bad.

[Borinata]

Teachers, give this test to your students if you really want them to know the truth about evolution!

1. Which evolved first, male or female? As we all know, isogamy was the rule before the sexes split, but my money's on male, as anisogamy was likely a way for some species to not put as much energy into gamete production.
2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female? Completely irrelevant: if it was 10 million it's okay, but if it's 11 million evolution is disproved?
3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods.While I can completely understand qualms about assuming radioactive decay is A: a completely constant process and B. constant under all conditions, I've thus far gotten two only 2 questionable assumptions...
4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years? Considering the odds of it evolving in the first place were extremely, expecting it to come around again is likely expecting two flips of a coin to land sideways
5. Which came first:
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light? Scientists theorize that the first step was light sensitive tissue which likely tapped into already present heat/pressure neurons. Then some sort of interpretation of light waves specifically as the tissue began to form an inverted cup (think an eye socket with no eyeball. After that, it's a tossup as to which came first depending on which species eye you mean, however I'm sure the eyebrows and eye lashes came last as they have nothing to do with sight.
6. How many millions of years between each in question 5? See question 2
7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring? Because they do not share identical genes arranged identically on a matching number of chromosomes, resulting in the in-expression of a large number of genes that are necessary for the healthy development of an organism and the maintenance of life.
8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution! Let's see, bacterium, animal-like protist, sponge, cnidarian, annelid, fish, amphibian, reptile, mammal, Pentecostal preacher, Neanderthal, Homo sapiens. I'll take my money now.
9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing? Obviously they don't prove evolution, since we don't have them. On a related note, no one has proven evolution, they have however provided a framework for understanding how life may have evolved through natural processes and eliminated false hypotheses.
10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.) Because life randomly mutates and natural selection preserves only beneficial mutations, unlike the US mint which purposefully makes shitty currency that dominates and everyone is forced to use (seriously, why is my $5 bill purple?)
11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today? But they are, it just takes a while. That's like asking how come the cake I just placed in the oven isn't done already.
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body. I can't, apparently evolution doesn't let anything go to waste.
13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution? Because I'm awaiting your payment via money order or certified check
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated? Have you been to China? It's pretty crowded. However, the important thing to remember isn't the length of time in question but the reproductive rates, most ecological niches have been filled, generally by evolutionary processes creating new and distinct organisms.
15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?See question 4

Source

Jesus that hurt.

OK, I'll be the first to admit I have doubts about life's ability to create enough beneficial mutations to evolve everything in a few billion years as well as serious metaphysical doubts about the spontaneous creation of matter and time, however if you're gonna call something false, do it because you know some truth.

I want to quote your answer in my email to the guy.

Oh feel free to. Please include the part that says I am actually sympathetic to his religious beliefs, just not his deeply flawed logic and scientific reason.

[Daistallia 2104]

Which came first: as far as i know, either the eye sockets, or the brain's interpretation

Not quite. Eyes predate brains, and brains predate bones. Eye, then brains, then eye sockets.

How many millions of years between each in question 5? i dont really know

A few million.

Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution? because there is no reward, as far as i know.

That site offers one, as do others. The most (in)famous is Kent Hovind's.

[Denecaep]

Ooh! I'll send him an e-mail.

To: imsostupid@idiot.dumb

Hey, I took your quiz! Maybe you'll be interested in my answers. I think I got a 100!

1. Which evolved first, male or female?
Evolution is not a process that occurs in individuals. It happens over a very long time. It has to do with the gradual changing of a species, not individuals. Each generation is slightly different than the last, usually because certain traits help certain species survive. A certain gender can't "evolve" first. It happens as a species, not individually.

2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female?
See #1.

3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods.
A large amount of the dating methods used to prove evolution aren't even radioactive testing. They commonly test how old something is by the amount of certain types of carbon. Because it decays, the less carbon, the older it is. I don't see the major flaws in that.

4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years?
When a creature is extinct, it no longer exists. Most of the time, that means that that path of evolution has ended. However, when an extinct creature does have decendants (a few lizards have been traced back to dinosaurs), then there is no reason for it to eventually evolve back into what it was originally. Evolution carries traits that help a species survive. If a species went extinct, then obviously its traits didn't work out too well for it.

5. Which came first:
...the eye,
...the eyelid,
...the eyebrow,
...the eye sockets,
...the eye muscles,
...the eye lashes,
...the tear ducts,
...the brain's interpretation of light?
All of these questions aren't even remotely reasonable. A species doesn't gradually get different body parts one after the other. Most of what has happened in evolution is the CHANGING of body parts, not the addition of new ones. Species have gained body parts from time to time, but it takes millions of years. And it varies from species to species. For example, if there are two groups of the same rat, ones with tear ducts, and ones without, the ones with tear ducts might survive more often, and gradually, that species of rats will have tear ducts.

6. How many millions of years between each in question 5?
See #5. Not an entirely valid question.

7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring?
If you are referring to the fact that we came from the same thing billions of years ago, the reason we can't mate is because we have changed so much, and we have split up and taken different paths of evolution.

8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution!
Why is this necessary to prove evolution? Often, new organs don't just appear, they evolve from other organs. But once again, why does evolution require the creation of new organs?

9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing?
Transitional forms have been found in many species. For example, the transition between the Pakicetus and the Gray whale is the Aetiocetus. The Gray whale has nostrils at the top of the skull. The Pakicetus has nostrils at the bottom. Not surprisingly, the Aetiocetus has nostrils in the middle.

10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.)
Math solution? And manufactured coins have nothing to do with living humans. Human life happened because successful traits have been carried through evolution. And what if human life hadn't been the result? It would have been something else, and a member of that species still would be like you, saying, "what's the chance we were formed?" The question doesn't make sense when you get down to it.

11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today?
They are... it is a very long process. It takes longer than we have been around to record that progression.

12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body.
Why do we need 50? Even just one is a good example, such as the appendix. The appendix is completely useless to us, however, studies have shown that for other primates, it is an important organ.

13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution?
Because there are still too many ignorant people like you that convince a percentage of the population from believing it, citing "religion" as your source.

14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?
First of all: What the heck are you talking about. Since when is the Earth still underpopulated? And also, things DIE. Species go extinct, environments change. Life population has not always grown in every instance.

15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?
You don't understand evolution at all. Why in the world would evolution do that? Do you think evolution is some sentinent being? Wow, you're right. A sentinent being making all those actions does seem a little ridiculous... but wait. That's YOUR belief.