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Re: Convert an Atheist for Prizes!

Postby Altergo » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:52 pm

I wonder how this will end

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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:54 pm

Altergo wrote:I wonder how this will end

Unwell.
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Postby Ryadn » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:55 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
greed and death wrote:Though why Tibet? There is more to Buddhism then Lamaism. A trip to India would have been far more edifying.

Not many Buddhists left in India, I'm afraid. Although with the PRC not religion-friendly or Tibet-friendly at all, a monastery in Japan would maybe be a better place.


? The whole of the Tibetan Government in Exile is in India.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:58 pm

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Milks Empire wrote:
greed and death wrote:Though why Tibet? There is more to Buddhism then Lamaism. A trip to India would have been far more edifying.

Not many Buddhists left in India, I'm afraid. Although with the PRC not religion-friendly or Tibet-friendly at all, a monastery in Japan would maybe be a better place.

? The whole of the Tibetan Government in Exile is in India.

Read later posts...
Without the PRC occupying Tibet, they'd be in Tibet, not India, so let me rephrase that...
Not many native-born Buddhists in India.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:59 pm

Dammit, there's no Pagans!!

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Postby New Genoa » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:02 pm

Wilgrove wrote:Dammit, there's no Pagans!!


There's thousand of pagan religions. Which one would you want represented?
Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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Postby New Limacon » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:03 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:That's because only true non-believers need apply. An eight-member team of theologians will vet contestants to ensure they really are atheists before deciding who will participate in the show.

Huh? Atheism is probably the easiest "religion," if you could call it that, to fake. I remember hearing a story about Sunni in Iraq trying to memorize the Twelve Imam and other Shi'ite doctrine so they could convincingly pretend if stopped by a Shi'ite gang. Are these theologians really expecting people to slip up?
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Postby New Genoa » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:14 pm

New Limacon wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:That's because only true non-believers need apply. An eight-member team of theologians will vet contestants to ensure they really are atheists before deciding who will participate in the show.

Huh? Atheism is probably the easiest "religion," if you could call it that, to fake. I remember hearing a story about Sunni in Iraq trying to memorize the Twelve Imam and other Shi'ite doctrine so they could convincingly pretend if stopped by a Shi'ite gang. Are these theologians really expecting people to slip up?
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Well it's easy to fake for them. Atheists with any semblance of morals -> rejected. Atheists who happen to immoral and conform to the negative atheist stereotype -> accepted on the show! Even better if they're immoral enough to sell out their beliefs for money to show conversion.
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Postby New Limacon » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:21 pm

New Genoa wrote:Well it's easy to fake for them. Atheists with any semblance of morals -> rejected. Atheists who happen to immoral and conform to the negative atheist stereotype -> accepted on the show! Even better if they're immoral enough to sell out their beliefs for money to show conversion.

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Postby New Genoa » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:25 pm

New Limacon wrote:
New Genoa wrote:Well it's easy to fake for them. Atheists with any semblance of morals -> rejected. Atheists who happen to immoral and conform to the negative atheist stereotype -> accepted on the show! Even better if they're immoral enough to sell out their beliefs for money to show conversion.

"How many gods do you believe in?"
"Zero. There used to be one, but I aborted him. When he was partially birthed."


See now that's the kind of atheist they like. :)
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:49 pm

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Lucifeles wrote:I shall do all I can to watch this. This will be controversial hilarity, especially if the religious preachers turn on each other and start trying to convert each other to their respective religions as the atheists look on.

Especially if they get a Satanist onboard...

*casts 'Summon LeVey'*

We have a LaVeyan on here.


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I would want to see an Atheist try to piss off the preacher and incite a 4 way religious war.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:52 pm

How many Buddhists are there in Turkey anyway?

We once entertained a missionary in our home, gave him tea and cookies for an afternoon chat with the neighbors. He was from OMS, formerly Oriental Mission Society.

He bragged about making a new convert in Japan.

We asked what the convert's former religion was and he replied "Presbyterian".

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Re: Convert an Atheist for Prizes!

Postby Dazchan » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:21 am

I'd pretend to convert for the free trip.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:59 am

greed and death wrote:Though why Tibet? There is more to Buddhism then Lamaism. A trip to India would have been far more edifying.


This is a good question. The article doesn't give us much to go on, but I suspect they've rounded up a Tibetian monk or decided Tibet was more picturesque.

I'm curious as to why the PRC would let this go through?

(An even better question is why Buddhism at all? It's fundamentally non-theistic.)

greed and death wrote:The Dahli Lama is in India, and India is the birth place of Buddhism. 3 of the 4 main pilgrimage sites for Buddhist are in India, and the 4th is in Nepal.

I think it is just the west's obsession with the Dahli Lama.


Dalai, not Dahli. ;) But true about the rest.
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Postby Molested Sock » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:00 am

One problem I can see is if these Atheists are going to absolutly refuse to be converted, even if they were to start believing something, they'll be stubborn and not recognise their change of heart.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:10 am

Molested Sock wrote:One problem I can see is if these Atheists are going to absolutly refuse to be converted, even if they were to start believing something, they'll be stubborn and not recognise their change of heart.


So what is wrong with refusing to devolve back to a lower state?
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Postby Pepe Dominguez » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:15 am

The Orthodox priest can always use the secret weapon of Greek pastries, which are normally served after church services and are always worth turning up for. :) Bizarre concept otherwise.

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Postby TheCapitalWasteland » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:24 am

They should try to convert me. I'd could convert them to not even being athiests, make them think that the true controllers are god-like super humans mutated from years of orgys.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:38 am

New Genoa wrote:Well it's easy to fake for them. Atheists with any semblance of morals -> rejected. Atheists who happen to immoral and conform to the negative atheist stereotype -> accepted on the show! Even better if they're immoral enough to sell out their beliefs for money to show conversion.


Which probably indeed is what they want.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:03 am

[sarcasm]Its a shame, really, this travesty of a TV show is on Turkish TV and not US TV. If it was an American creation, the debate here could be even more acrimonious and therefore even more entertaining.[/sarcasm]

I gotta go with so many others here. This will not end well. I wonder how long it will be before this becomes less of a "game" show, and more like a Turkish version of Jerry Springer?
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:18 am

This only makes me laugh. Especially because each religious leader will start arguing with each other rather than with the atheists. The things people do these days...
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Postby Juarex » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:27 am

I wanna go on.

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Postby Sorgan » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:31 am

Im routing for the Rabbi :) .

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Postby Cabra West » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:46 am

I think it's a hilarious idea. I do hope they'll subtitle it for youtube, or even better bring it to US telly.... :D
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Postby Lucifeles » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:10 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Lucifeles wrote:I shall do all I can to watch this. This will be controversial hilarity, especially if the religious preachers turn on each other and start trying to convert each other to their respective religions as the atheists look on.

Especially if they get a Satanist onboard...

*casts 'Summon LeVey'*

We have a LaVeyan on here.


Speak of the Devil. :p

I would want to see an Atheist try to piss off the preacher and incite a 4 way religious war.


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