Get into the car little girl - COP

[Panzerjaeger]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

[Andaluciae]

Harassment is only a Class B misdemeanor or a violation, while endangerment is a Class A misdemeanor at worst.

Everything this jerkbag has done fits within the legal definitions provided by the laws of New York State. The more severe crimes of pandering or lewd conduct don't seem to be appropriate, convictable or likely to survive appeal. (Sorry, I can't figure out how to link directly--just search the names of the crimes he's being charged with, as well as pandering or lewd conduct to get the legal definitions)

[Radictistan]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

[Zeppy]

Pedophiles are the leading cause of child pornography. Capitalism, in a sick way, does it's job by fulfilling demand.

Communist lies.

[Panzerjaeger]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

[Monahtan]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Like I said, we deal with maybe 1 or 2 shootings a year at my department and they're investigated pretty thoroughly. There's actually a lot of justifiable reasons to shoot someone... but that's off topic.

[Ifreann]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

That is what I think too. Do you see an ordinary man having just $2500 bail after trying to lure a girl into his car 3 times with $100?

Clearly he has money to spare. All from the taxpayer too!

What is the normal bail amount for attempting to kidnap a child in New York?

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Come on guys, there is no such thing as an off duty cop!

http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-dut ... hority.htm

"Different police departments have different policies concerning the authority of off-duty officers, but in many places an off-duty police officer does have the legal right to detain an offender until an on-duty officer arrives to finish the process".

Interesting. Yes I've seen this claimed in other threads but I was beginning to doubt.

What do you think of the bail amount?

I mean, the crimes the guy has been charged with, and the crimes that are likely capable of being proven in court, really wouldn't call for much more than that.

We can certainly infer that he was after a lot more, and more severe, activities, but he didn't commit them, and there isn't any direct evidence that he was planning to commit them.

According to "law enforcement"

Why the scare quotes?

by the time such people tend to be caught they have already gone after several victims. They should link missing children reports that match his area and investigate the possibility that he is involved in their vanishing.

I suggest DNA analysis of his car and a warrants to inspect ever corner of his house and dig up his back yard to see if any bones are back there.

Hopefully this was his only attempted kidnapping, but I expect the Albany police will investigate him thoroughly.

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Come on guys, there is no such thing as an off duty cop!

http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-dut ... hority.htm

"Different police departments have different policies concerning the authority of off-duty officers, but in many places an off-duty police officer does have the legal right to detain an offender until an on-duty officer arrives to finish the process".

He was also out of his jurisdiction. And I don't see why it matters whether he's off-duty or not. He wasn't trying to use his position as a police officer to get away with kidnapping, he was trying to use $100 and a truck.

/thread.

I make minimum wage at a grocery store, but I payed over $100 dollars in taxes this year. He used MY MONEY to try to kidnap this girl! That truck was bought by the taxpayers as well.

That's not how taxes work. When you pay it, it's the government's money, not yours. When the government pays it to cops, it's their money, not yours or the governments(aside from the taxes the cops pay). Saying his truck was bought by the taxpayers is just wrong.

[Sibirsky]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

Complain to the Judge they set the bail.

The magistrate. But what's the point? He had his day in court. Who the hell am I to question the court's decision?

[Geilinor]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Was the girl commiting a crime?

[Bendira]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

[Andaluciae]

Come on guys, there is no such thing as an off duty cop!

http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-dut ... hority.htm

"Different police departments have different policies concerning the authority of off-duty officers, but in many places an off-duty police officer does have the legal right to detain an offender until an on-duty officer arrives to finish the process".

Interesting. Yes I've seen this claimed in other threads but I was beginning to doubt.

What do you think of the bail amount?

I mean, the crimes the guy has been charged with, and the crimes that are likely capable of being proven in court, really wouldn't call for much more than that.

We can certainly infer that he was after a lot more, and more severe, activities, but he didn't commit them, and there isn't any direct evidence that he was planning to commit them.

According to "law enforcement" by the time such people tend to be caught they have already gone after several victims. They should link missing children reports that match his area and investigate the possibility that he is involved in their vanishing.

I suggest DNA analysis of his car and a warrants to inspect ever corner of his house and dig up his back yard to see if any bones are back there.

Besides the fact that I officially feel like you've watched a little too much CSI...

I'd support all of those actions, provided that they're feasible--although I'd wonder about the efficacy of the missing child reports and his patrol areas, as it wouldn't seem to fit the pattern he's already established of a.) not being on duty and b.) not being anywhere near his patrol area--in fact, well over 120 miles away.

[Sibirsky]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

I don't know what it is in new york, but attempting to lure or entice a child in Florida is a 1st degree misdemeanor.

Florida goes easy. That's a felony charge in my mind.

[Radictistan]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

[Panzerjaeger]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

Complain to the Judge they set the bail.

The magistrate. But what's the point? He had his day in court. Who the hell am I to question the court's decision?

Bail is usually set based on finances and flight risk and the nature of the crime. Since this is at worst only just a Misdemeanor the bail seems fine to me. Not to say this shouldn't lead to a very thorough investigation of the officer in question.

[Andaluciae]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

Where the frick do you live?

[Monahtan]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

I don't know what it is in new york, but attempting to lure or entice a child in Florida is a 1st degree misdemeanor.

Florida goes easy. That's a felony charge in my mind.

I think you people are confusing luring and enticing with kidnapping. It's way different... and yes, I agree, it should be a felony charge as well (anything dealing with kids should automatically be upped). He didn't attempt to kidnap her.

[Sibirsky]

Pedophiles are the leading cause of child pornography. Capitalism, in a sick way, does it's job by fulfilling demand.

Communist lies.

What other kind of lies do you expect from an authoritarian commie like myself?

[Panzerjaeger]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

Where the frick do you live?

In Anarchist Fantasy Land where the Po-Po always be shootin a brotha ya dig?

[Ifreann]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

You do realize that we're not going to take your word on any police shooting being unjustified, let alone one every year.

[Radictistan]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

Where the frick do you live?

Austin.

[Monahtan]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

Where the frick do you live?

Austin.

Like I said, there's really a ton of reasons for a justifiable shooting. You may not have just been aware of them. Texas is similar to Florida in the deadly force statutes and we have a lot of leeway when it comes to shootings.

[Sibirsky]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

Complain to the Judge they set the bail.

The magistrate. But what's the point? He had his day in court. Who the hell am I to question the court's decision?

Bail is usually set based on finances and flight risk and the nature of the crime. Since this is at worst only just a Misdemeanor the bail seems fine to me. Not to say this shouldn't lead to a very thorough investigation of the officer in question.

I guess. The crime should be a felony in my mind. And bail accordingly higher.

[Zeppy]

What other kind of lies do you expect from an authoritarian commie like myself?

The ones you hear from your local used cars salesperson and the govahmet.

[Panzerjaeger]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

Complain to the Judge they set the bail.

The magistrate. But what's the point? He had his day in court. Who the hell am I to question the court's decision?

Bail is usually set based on finances and flight risk and the nature of the crime. Since this is at worst only just a Misdemeanor the bail seems fine to me. Not to say this shouldn't lead to a very thorough investigation of the officer in question.

I guess. The crime should be a felony in my mind. And bail accordingly higher.

Completely agreed but I imagine someone somewhere would whine that you are punishing them for something they didn't get a chance to do.

[Andaluciae]

To me this whole thing screams of him being protected because he's a cop. I bet he'll be acquitted at trial. No jury in this country would convict a police officer for something like that.

Actually, juries love this kind of thing. He'll get convicted.

They sure don't where I live. My local police department shoots people for no reason all the time and no one has ever gotten fired for it never mind going to prison.

Yeah unless you live in Myanmar I call bullshit.

I live in Texas. I'll admit that "all the time" is somewhat of an exaggeration. It happens at least once a year though.

Once a year? That is it? Why are you bitching about that?

Yeah only one person gets capped a year? Why do you even care meng?!?!

You do realize I'm referring to unjustified police shootings, not total police shootings, right?

Where the frick do you live?

Austin.

I'm not finding much...a Kevin Brown guy in 2007, but that's about it.