Get into the car little girl - COP

[Panzerjaeger]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

It is isolated and completely anecdotal. Sorry whiny Far Left smear campaigns don't tug at my heart strings nor did they even when I was a Stalinist.

[Monahtan]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

And this is why I am an anarchist. (Just this once Natapoc?) Police departments, even when they lose lawsuits, generally don't pay out more than $100,000 or so (out of your pocket, Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer). I see no reason why PDAs, had we used them would have any limit on liability. The fact that these for profit entities could stand to lose tens of millions of dollars makes me think that they would not hire, authoritative, power hungry, corrupt pricks like these as employees.

Just to note... I'm sure everyone here has heard of the Martin Lee Anderson Bootcamp incident?

Well that happened here and the Sheriff's Office (along with the State) paid about 10 million to the family. The officers involved were acquitted of all charges, for one, because they didn't do anything wrong. You can Google the video and find it.

So, it's not always true that departments don't pay out alot

[Hegstoria]

He gives a bad name to some of the bravest people in the country. I know many NYPD officers so I trust that this is not a common occurrence.

[Ifreann]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

And if you say it, it must be true!

[Dyakovo]

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

I don't even know HOW that could possibly work.

As for the crime, he abused his position of trust. Throw the book at 'im.

Wait, I thought he was doing it off-duty.

Cops tend to claim that they have special status even when off duty. Special requirements. I've seen it claimed here at least.

Funny, I have never heard an LEO claim that...

[Panzerjaeger]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

And if you say it, it must be true!

Dude I totally saw this cop kill like 50 Vagrants with a bulldozer all while shooting at a pregnant woman who was on fire at a gas station.

[Monahtan]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

And if you say it, it must be true!

Dude I totally saw this cop kill like 50 Vagrants with a bulldozer all while shooting at a pregnant woman who was on fire at a gas station.

[Sibirsky]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

So now we've been able to accrue 9 examples of police behaving in a fashion that is either illegal, or that someone might find less than pleasing. In a profession of over 800,000 people...wow...that's a pretty good ratio. Let's shoot for something more rigorous here, than linking to random Youtube videos, hmmmkay?

Nine examples I pulled together in five minutes, with tons more available. You hear about this shit every week, if you're looking for it. How many incidents do you think go unrecorded? Especially incidents that happened before the advent of YouTube?

Hundreds. Every. Single. Year. I could be way wrong and it could be thousands.

[Dyakovo]

Come on guys, there is no such thing as an off duty cop!

http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-dut ... hority.htm

"Different police departments have different policies concerning the authority of off-duty officers, but in many places an off-duty police officer does have the legal right to detain an offender until an on-duty officer arrives to finish the process".

Hate to be the one to point this out to you, but all that quote means is that the off-duty LEO will not get in trouble with his superiors for conducting a citizen's arrest... Which would be something anyone can do...

[Utvara]

How's this for a study, eh?

[Hegstoria]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

And if you say it, it must be true!

Definitely. My mom said I was the best kid in the world, so obviously I am.

[The Romulan Republic]

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type?

Yes. Or rather, there should be no bail.

But then, cops seem to often get preferential treatment when they're accused of something.

[Monahtan]

Come on guys, there is no such thing as an off duty cop!

http://www.wisegeek.com/does-an-off-dut ... hority.htm

"Different police departments have different policies concerning the authority of off-duty officers, but in many places an off-duty police officer does have the legal right to detain an offender until an on-duty officer arrives to finish the process".

Hate to be the one to point this out to you, but all that quote means is that the off-duty LEO will not get in trouble with his superiors for conducting a citizen's arrest... Which would be something anyone can do...

Well (again, this is only Florida), police officers are never considered "off duty" by law. Not saying they can just go arresting everyone they see, but, if something happens right in front of them, they have to do something about it. A good example would be someone who has a heart attack in the mall, an off duty officer must help him. Or if someone is robbing the local jewelry store, the cop has to act. Keeping in mind, he is ABLE to act while off duty, i.e. he's armed or has some means of actually carrying out a plan.

[Ifreann]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

So now we've been able to accrue 9 examples of police behaving in a fashion that is either illegal, or that someone might find less than pleasing. In a profession of over 800,000 people...wow...that's a pretty good ratio. Let's shoot for something more rigorous here, than linking to random Youtube videos, hmmmkay?

Nine examples I pulled together in five minutes, with tons more available. You hear about this shit every week, if you're looking for it. How many incidents do you think go unrecorded? Especially incidents that happened before the advent of YouTube?

Hundreds. Every. Single. Year. I could be way wrong and it could be thousands.

Or you could be wrong and it could be zero.....

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How's this for a study, eh?

See? That wasn't so hard.

[Monahtan]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

[Panzerjaeger]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

Indeed that is better then I expected.

[RAQL]

wait...A NYPD OFFICER!WTH WAS THIS GUY THINKING HES LAW INFORCMENT SUPPOSED TO HELP! NOT HURT! THAT A HOLE

[Monahtan]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

Indeed that is better then I expected.

And, we have to take into consideration they are probably counting the bullshit complaints that people file because things didn't go how they wanted them too... lol

[Hegstoria]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

Indeed that is better then I expected.

And, we have to take into consideration they are probably counting the bullshit complaints that people file because things didn't go how they wanted them too... lol

Exactly.

[Sibirsky]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

And this is why I am an anarchist. (Just this once Natapoc?) Police departments, even when they lose lawsuits, generally don't pay out more than $100,000 or so (out of your pocket, Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer). I see no reason why PDAs, had we used them would have any limit on liability. The fact that these for profit entities could stand to lose tens of millions of dollars makes me think that they would not hire, authoritative, power hungry, corrupt pricks like these as employees.

Just to note... I'm sure everyone here has heard of the Martin Lee Anderson Bootcamp incident?

Well that happened here and the Sheriff's Office (along with the State) paid about 10 million to the family. The officers involved were acquitted of all charges, for one, because they didn't do anything wrong. You can Google the video and find it.

So, it's not always true that departments don't pay out alot

Wrongful death suits, I guess pay more. I did say generally. It also needed special circumstances to go above $3 million. And it did not come from the officer's pockets. I know they were acquitted. I say, the officers working for PDAs should be held jointly liable with the PDAs. Fucking utopia.

[Panzerjaeger]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

Indeed that is better then I expected.

And, we have to take into consideration they are probably counting the bullshit complaints that people file because things didn't go how they wanted them too... lol

LIke the classic you take my husband to jail I file a complaint because you ruined my night? My Uncle enjoyed complaints that people would file because he arrested someone the day before or during a Holiday.

[Andaluciae]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

So now we've been able to accrue 9 examples of police behaving in a fashion that is either illegal, or that someone might find less than pleasing. In a profession of over 800,000 people...wow...that's a pretty good ratio. Let's shoot for something more rigorous here, than linking to random Youtube videos, hmmmkay?

http://www.copblock.org

So, the first one is the guy getting angry at police for running a drunk-stop on the day after St. Patrick's day, for tasering a fleeing suspect, for trying to carry out his duty and for dealing with a dangerous animal in the only fucking way it should be dealt with. This guy provides very little context, and justifies anything and everything people do by saying that "they were scared."

[Monahtan]

How's this for a study, eh?

10,000 complaints in a city of almost 3 million people is not a lot...

Indeed that is better then I expected.

And, we have to take into consideration they are probably counting the bullshit complaints that people file because things didn't go how they wanted them too... lol

LIke the classic you take my husband to jail I file a complaint because you ruined my night? My Uncle enjoyed complaints that people would file because he arrested someone the day before or during a Holiday.

I had someone complain on me because I was "driving unprofessionally" in traffic. When in fact I was trying to get to an officer who wasn't answering her radio and was out with a car that ran from her... so yea. People complain about everything.

[Sibirsky]

Not even surprised. Like 3 or 4 stories like this atleast a week lately.

In another thread it was said that resisting refusing to follow the order of a police officer is "resisting arrest? " Do you think the 11 year old girl should be charged with resisting arrest?

Don't be foolish. He was off duty in commission, allegedly, of a crime -- not in uniform and at work.

I know you hate the police and everything about them is abuse, but this is pretty transparently NOT a police officer in commission of his duties.

I don't really hate them actually. I don't like the way power and hierarchy work together to create dangerous situations for individuals.

Then focus on more than just the police, and don't use individual police officers committing crimes as representatives for the entire profession.

But then she wouldn't be a anarchist anymore. You gotta hate the State and any symbol of authority for no other reason then you can.

Why would people have a problem with police?

Surely, it's a few bad apples. No institutional problems here!

Yes because a handful of incidents immediately prove your point.

They are not isolated. There are hundreds like these every year. One of the biggest problems is the war on drugs. In my county, it is standard procedure to execute a search warrant with a full SWAT team. And they execute search warrants for something as minor as an anonymous tip stating there are drugs at the house.

And if you say it, it must be true!

The use of SWAT teams in non-emergency situations has been criticized.[29] In 2006, two SWAT members served a warrant on Salvatore Culosi, a 37-year old optometrist in the Fair Oaks section of Fairfax County, Virginia, a suburb of Washington, D.C., who was accused of sports gambling; the attempted arrest ended with his accidental death.[30] The officer who was responsible, Deval V. Bullock, was suspended for three weeks without pay.[31] One critic is Radley Balko, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute, author of Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America.[32] Other studies include Warrior Cops: The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments by Diane Cecilia Weber from the same institute [citation needed] and Militarizing American Police: The Rise and Normalization of Paramilitary Units by Dr. Peter Kraska and his colleague Victor Kappeler, professors of criminal justice at Eastern Kentucky University, who surveyed police departments nationwide and found that their deployment of paramilitary units had grown tenfold since the early 1980s.[33]
Another example is the Berwyn Heights mayor's residence drug raid, involving a controversial action taken by the Prince George's County, Maryland Sheriff's Office and Police Department at the home of Berwyn Heights mayor Cheye Calvo on July 29, 2008. The raid was the culmination of an investigation that began in Arizona, where a package containing 32 pounds of marijuana was found addressed to the mayor's residence. Once the package arrived at the house, police raided and took the mayor and his mother-in-law into custody, killing his two dogs in the process. The event gained national and international media attention. While the Calvos were cleared of wrongdoing, the police were accused by the Calvos and civil rights groups of lacking a proper search warrant, excessive force, and failure to conduct a proper background investigation of the home being raided. Despite the criticisms, no action has been taken against the officers or their respective police departments.

[Dyakovo]

A New York City Police officer has been charged with attempting to lure a little girl into his car with promises of $100.

http://www.wten.com/global/Story.asp?s=12697236

The smart little girl ran to her grandparents house for help. I wonder how many other girls he has victimized in the past who decided to get into his car for the $100? Are they still alive to tell about it?

Bail for the would be kidnapper has been put at bail $2,500.

What do you think about this? Is the bail to low for someone who has been accused of predatory behavior of this type? When the police investigating the claims first interviewed the criminal he claimed to be self employed despite the fact that fingerprints later proved he was employed as a cop.

If a normal citizen lies about being a cop they can be charged. Should the opposite be true also? If a cop lies and claims that he is self employed and not, a member of the police department should there be a charge equivalent to "impersonating a civilian?"

Sick fuck. And $2500 is way too low. I'm not sure what the maximum penalty is for this offense, but that's what he should get.

1. The $2500 is the bail amount, not the penalty.
2. He is charged with Harassment (which is a class B Misdemeanor) and Endangering the Welfare of a Child (Which is a class A misdemeanor).
Class A Misdemeanors are punishable by up to 1 year in jail while Class B Misdemeanors are punishable by up to 6 months in jail.