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Postby Tokos » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:22 pm

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The Scandinvans wrote:Yes soccer is un-American. It was invented by Russian Communists to slowly make men more effeminate by riding America of its full contact sports which help to encourage butt smacking, communal showering, dropping the soap for the fun of it, and other activities that ensure the vitality of America's great men.

So therefore say no to European styled girly girl lifestyles and keep your masculinity men of America by continuing to smack each others postures for the good of America!

Soccer, actually, was invented in England in the 1800s. Russian Communists did nothing with it until the USSR broke down and died in '92, so shut your mouth if you don't speak the facts and just hate "Russian Communists".


Help me out, gallery - on the internet this is called "sperging" is it not? Why's it got a great deal more common here lately?
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Postby Soviet Engineers » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:24 pm

Effimination wrote:In The Week, soccer has been accused of being un-American. I think it is not un-American; it's as important as NASCAR (America) as it is to bowling (rest of world. I swear). It came along a bit too late -- what with football which doesn't even make sense why it's called that because only 1/10 of the time, maximum at a football game is spent kicking a football.
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Postby Tokos » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:29 pm

Football is total shit really (the public game that is). "My overpaid sissy foreigner representing a country not his own, can run faster than yours!"

I don't have a problem with sport jingoism but ffs at least get it right and have the proper people representing. They're bought up and shuffled round like whores.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:44 pm

Tokos wrote:Football is total shit really (the public game that is). "My overpaid sissy foreigner representing a country not his own, can run faster than yours!"

I don't have a problem with sport jingoism but ffs at least get it right and have the proper people representing. They're bought up and shuffled round like whores.

There are very few situations when someone can play football for the national team of another nation. Usually when they've got a parent of grandparent from the other nation. And players aren't bought and sold on that level. They're called up to play for their nation.

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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:38 pm

They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:43 pm

Abury wrote:
Kirby J wrote:It's not a genuine world championship unless only Good Honest Freedom-Loving American teams play. I mean really, how can you have teams from other countries in a world championship? It just doesn't make sense. Thus soccer is un-American.


Well in World cup not all countries play but only the 32 selected by unknown criteria

I don't understand why crap country like Honduras plays and not country like China or India who are better at soccer

:rofl:
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:45 pm

San Pellegrino Romana wrote:Glenn Beck says its unAmerican so it must be.

That is not my view, I am just stating a little sarcasm. I think its the most American sport after baseball and football.


What about basketball? Surely a sport invented by an American is more American than a sport invented by the Brits.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:45 pm

Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated.


And what about that is Un-American? :p

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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:47 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Abury wrote:
Kirby J wrote:It's not a genuine world championship unless only Good Honest Freedom-Loving American teams play. I mean really, how can you have teams from other countries in a world championship? It just doesn't make sense. Thus soccer is un-American.


Well in World cup not all countries play but only the 32 selected by unknown criteria criteria

I don't understand why crap country like Honduras plays and not country like China or India who are better at soccer

Um...How could they be better if Honduras made it to the Cup, and they didn't? :blink:

It's like asking why a "crap" team like New Orleans made it into the playoffs, when a big city like New York didn't.


Entirely possible. Spots at the World Cup are assigned based on Confederations (continents pretty much) and European teams are usually stronger. So a European team may not qualify, yet be better than say some Asian teams that do qualify.
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Postby S23Nation » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:51 pm

Caninope wrote:
S23Nation wrote:Americans are interested in soccer just as much as they are into hockey, just let the few think that they are good at it.


Someone's mad the US made it and Canada didn't...

Probably, but it aint me.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:56 pm

Soviet Engineers wrote:Nope, just unproductive.


Huh? I thought the amount of pregnancies went up during the world cup. IIRC.

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Postby Caninope » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:00 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Soviet Engineers wrote:Nope, just unproductive.


Huh? I thought the amount of pregnancies went up during the world cup. IIRC.


I'm beginning to like it more and more. :)
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:19 pm

Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?
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Postby Jaunty tunes » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:10 pm

There is only one thing that will make Soccer American. A victory at the world cup.

Unitl then Americans wont be interested because they are bad at it and wont put their effort in it to get better.

so what we really need is a plauge to wipe out the other teams or a few own goals each game by Americas opposition. I wont hold my breath (if the opposition tries this America might win also)

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Postby Maurepas » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:18 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:04 am

Jaunty tunes wrote:There is only one thing that will make Soccer American. A victory at the world cup.

Unitl then Americans wont be interested because they are bad at it and wont put their effort in it to get better.

so what we really need is a plauge to wipe out the other teams or a few own goals each game by Americas opposition. I wont hold my breath (if the opposition tries this America might win also)


They're better than the Brits. Ask Zinedine.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:28 am

Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:30 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.

It would eliminate things like the crap we were dealt with Slovenia, >_>

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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:31 am

Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.

It would eliminate things like the crap we were dealt with Slovenia, >_>


Yeah though the only thing I would approve of is if it dealt with fouls committed, and at the refs discretion.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:34 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.

It would eliminate things like the crap we were dealt with Slovenia, >_>


Yeah though the only thing I would approve of is if it dealt with fouls committed, and at the refs discretion.

Fouls is exactly what it deals with, see, in American Football the coach has a red flag, and when a ref throws a penalty flag(similar to a card) he can throw the red flag and the refs review the footage, and if it turns out the foul was a bad foul, then they overturn it. Now, if it turns out it was a good foul-call, then the team loses a time out, that part of it may be a little trickier to implement in Soccer, cause I don't recall it having timeouts, have to be some other penalty for throwing a bad challenge.

When I said call, I meant foul, :p
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:48 am

Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.

It would eliminate things like the crap we were dealt with Slovenia, >_>


Yeah though the only thing I would approve of is if it dealt with fouls committed, and at the refs discretion.

Fouls is exactly what it deals with, see, in American Football the coach has a red flag, and when a ref throws a penalty flag(similar to a card) he can throw the red flag and the refs review the footage, and if it turns out the foul was a bad foul, then they overturn it. Now, if it turns out it was a good foul-call, then the team loses a time out, that part of it may be a little trickier to implement in Soccer, cause I don't recall it having timeouts, have to be some other penalty for throwing a bad challenge.

When I said call, I meant foul, :p


It can still work. A free kick maybe. Or... I dunno, lose a sub. Whatever.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:50 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:They used to play it with the heads of enemies rather than with more acceptable sporting equipment (not made by Adidas) so it is primitive and unsophisticated,

And there's no instant replay; same point.

But the same can be said for sex.

At least, for some of us.


No instant replay?

Does this mean something else in the US?

I think he's actually referring to a challenge. In American Football the coach can challenge a call, and they replay it and review it to see if it was a bad call. I agree that it would be an improvement.


Oh so it does mean something different.

It would eliminate things like the crap we were dealt with Slovenia, >_>


Yeah though the only thing I would approve of is if it dealt with fouls committed, and at the refs discretion.

Fouls is exactly what it deals with, see, in American Football the coach has a red flag, and when a ref throws a penalty flag(similar to a card) he can throw the red flag and the refs review the footage, and if it turns out the foul was a bad foul, then they overturn it. Now, if it turns out it was a good foul-call, then the team loses a time out, that part of it may be a little trickier to implement in Soccer, cause I don't recall it having timeouts, have to be some other penalty for throwing a bad challenge.

When I said call, I meant foul, :p


It can still work. A free kick maybe. Or... I dunno, lose a sub. Whatever.

Considering how valuable free kicks are in Soccer, I think that's a little harsh. Loss of a sub sounds appropriate though, :)

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Postby Blouman Empire » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:53 am

Maurepas wrote:Fouls is exactly what it deals with, see, in American Football the coach has a red flag, and when a ref throws a penalty flag(similar to a card) he can throw the red flag and the refs review the footage, and if it turns out the foul was a bad foul, then they overturn it. Now, if it turns out it was a good foul-call, then the team loses a time out, that part of it may be a little trickier to implement in Soccer, cause I don't recall it having timeouts, have to be some other penalty for throwing a bad challenge.

When I said call, I meant foul, :p


You Americans with your words having different meanings. :p

Yeah I don't know as I say at the refs discretion rather than the coach. So that if the game has stopped he can review the footage. But the ref can't stop the game to review the footage.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:54 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Fouls is exactly what it deals with, see, in American Football the coach has a red flag, and when a ref throws a penalty flag(similar to a card) he can throw the red flag and the refs review the footage, and if it turns out the foul was a bad foul, then they overturn it. Now, if it turns out it was a good foul-call, then the team loses a time out, that part of it may be a little trickier to implement in Soccer, cause I don't recall it having timeouts, have to be some other penalty for throwing a bad challenge.

When I said call, I meant foul, :p


You Americans with your words having different meanings. :p

Yeah I don't know as I say at the refs discretion rather than the coach. So that if the game has stopped he can review the footage. But the ref can't stop the game to review the footage.


The ref calls a foul. A foul call. A call.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tokos wrote:Football is total shit really (the public game that is). "My overpaid sissy foreigner representing a country not his own, can run faster than yours!"

I don't have a problem with sport jingoism but ffs at least get it right and have the proper people representing. They're bought up and shuffled round like whores.

There are very few situations when someone can play football for the national team of another nation. Usually when they've got a parent of grandparent from the other nation.

And even then they still have to gain citizenship. Only full-fledged citizens of a country are allowed in that country's national team, as per FIFA rules.

And players aren't bought and sold on that level. They're called up to play for their nation.


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