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Do you think Donald Trump will serve his full term in office?

Yes
289
55%
No: he will be impeached and convicted
33
6%
No: he will die in office
150
29%
No: he will be forced to resign a la Nixon
32
6%
No (other)
18
3%
 
Total votes : 522

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Azassas
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Postby Azassas » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:46 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Kristi Noem to be secretary of homeland security.

I wonder how many dogs will be killed over the next 4 years?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics ... index.html

"The governor wrote that the dog was “untrainable,” according to excerpts first reported by The Guardian. Noem later argued that those anecdotes were meant to show how capable she is of doing some of the more gruesome jobs in life when necessary." - from the same source

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:50 am

Azassas wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Kristi Noem to be secretary of homeland security.

I wonder how many dogs will be killed over the next 4 years?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics ... index.html

If you're saying "kill" and "dogs" hypothetically, she'll do a good job


Nope the bark bark bark types.

I will have to reach out to a few ex-coworkers who went to homeland. See what’s going on and have their been any departures.

Coworkers at the DOD took early retirement during his first term. Reason given by one? He said he was asked to do things he thought was inappropriate…..
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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:57 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Adamede wrote:I will say it’s annoying seeing all the Trump supporters online now saying how even if tariffs do raise prices it’s fine and justified because it’ll totally bring jobs back and cost of living will go down anyway because reasons and we just need to tighten our belts Doris the then bitching about inflation for years.

It’s genuinely a cult mentality.


Are all the Trump supporters online in the room with us, now?

I am lol, :) :rofl:.

I have explained in details with video links how President Trump's Tariffs are a negotiating point with other nations. How President Trump is a deal maker. I posted a video link with this post: viewtopic.php?p=42131369#p42131369.

He wants to build cars more cars in Michigan, other states and in America again. He wants to build more products in Michigan, other states and in America again. Called the Build In America Plan. The Build in The USA Again Plan.

He wants to reduce taxes for small private businesses, corporations and all Americans. He wants to reduce energy prices for small private businesses, corporations and all Americans, through Drill Baby Drill on day one, to export to other nations and have in the USA. Please scroll down, I Posted 4 video links with this post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=558037&p=42127669#p42127669.

I am :) :rofl: . Dude, leftist democrats, real leftists as Therm calls them and other anti Trumps should call me and us Proud Republican Trump supporters who agree with his policies they don't like.

Just like I call President Obama supporters Proud President Obama supporters who agree with his policies I don't like.

I don't call President Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders, Biden, Kamala Harris, democrat supporters, President Obama Cultists, Hillary Cultists, Bernie Sanders Cultists, Biden Cultists, Kamala Harris Cultists and Democrat Cultists.

I call them Proud, President Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders, Biden, Kamala Harris, Democrats supporters, who agree with their policies I don't like. I call them Proud Democrat supporters who agree with Democrat policies.

Adamede: Is anti Trump, posts anti Trump, personal and political posts, I don't have any problems with his anti Trump, personal and political posts.

I don't have any problems with The Black Forrest's, Cannot think of a name, Deblar, Corrian and any posters anti Trump personal and political posts.

But since they and other posters put down Vice President JD Vance and President Trump, I will defend Vice President JD Vance and President Trump in a respectful manner.

We are even, it works both ways in reverse. Not just one their way. In Politics everything works both ways in reverse. Fair is Fair.

Fair and Balanced like Fox News, lol :) :rofl:.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:58 am

Azassas wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Kristi Noem to be secretary of homeland security.

I wonder how many dogs will be killed over the next 4 years?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics ... index.html

"The governor wrote that the dog was “untrainable,” according to excerpts first reported by The Guardian. Noem later argued that those anecdotes were meant to show how capable she is of doing some of the more gruesome jobs in life when necessary." - from the same source


Well?…..she was a shitty trainer. My wife’s great-aunt and uncle trained many of the same breed. One dog “Lucky” wasn’t. He just didn’t have the desired traits for a hunting dog and well was a lunatic in the field. There was no reason to kill Lucky. He lived a long life as a house dog.

Her anecdotes actually annoyed supporters who were hunters and had dogs.
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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:39 am

A few Excerpts: According to this news story from a political magazine: The anti-Trump media are still in denial and certain leftist Democrat Politicians, Celebrities and VIPs are in denial of the 2024 election results, added by me. They would rather brand Americans as bigots than acknowledge how out of touch they are. We woke up to a new American reality last Wednesday morning. The citizenry had delivered a clear message to the corporate media. That message was: get bent. The media have not taken it well. Voters rejected divisive identity politics. They voted against gross economic mismanagement, men in women’s spaces and an unprecedented surge in illegal immigrants pouring across the border.

I don't care about the rest of the news story. https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/11/1 ... in-denial/.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:40 am

Remember, if economy feel good, it's your credit. If economy feel bad, you can try your best to blame your predecessor, but good luck with that.

That's how it always works, no matter which party is in charge.

Of course, you can have experts putting out actual analysis of the factors involved and sometimes the economy is actually better or worse than it feels, but how many voters read those boring things?
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Postby Roylaii » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:44 am

I think Marco Rubio for Secretary of State also highlights how comfortable Republicans are with Florida. Just a few years ago Florida was the swing state and risking the seat in a special election would be a gamble. Now it's really quite safe for the Republicans. Bill Nelson lost by around 10,000 votes back in 2018, but this year Rick Scott won by over 1 million.
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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:45 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Remember, if economy feel good, it's your credit. If economy feel bad, you can try your best to blame your predecessor, but good luck with that.

That's how it always works, no matter which party is in charge.

Of course, you can have experts putting out actual analysis of the factors involved and sometimes the economy is actually better or worse than it feels, but how many voters read those boring things?

I say and we say: If the economy feels good, its your credit. If the economy feels bad, its your fault, because it is bad. To Post a coined Phrase It's the economy stupid. I think you guys know who I mean by and we say.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:55 am

Roylaii wrote:I think Marco Rubio for Secretary of State also highlights how comfortable Republicans are with Florida. Just a few years ago Florida was the swing state and risking the seat in a special election would be a gamble. Now it's really quite safe for the Republicans. Bill Nelson lost by around 10,000 votes back in 2018, but this year Rick Scott won by over 1 million.


Hmmmm? I doubt there was strategic thought in this.

Rubio was chosen only because of loyalty.
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Postby Roylaii » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:00 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Roylaii wrote:I think Marco Rubio for Secretary of State also highlights how comfortable Republicans are with Florida. Just a few years ago Florida was the swing state and risking the seat in a special election would be a gamble. Now it's really quite safe for the Republicans. Bill Nelson lost by around 10,000 votes back in 2018, but this year Rick Scott won by over 1 million.


Hmmmm? I doubt there was strategic thought in this.

Rubio was chosen only because of loyalty.

Oh no doubt. I doubt any thought has been given about the seat, just the yes-man who occupies it. I'm just remarking that no-one really has to give any thought about the seat anymore or what could come of a special election anyways like they would if it were Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:42 am

It’s unbelievable to me that professors at Harvard are treating the Republican victory in the Presidential Election like it’s an event of mourning.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024 ... eelection/

Some professors also encouraged students to process in the aftermath of the election, adjusting course requirements in kind.

Courses such as Sociology 1156: “Statistics for Social Sciences” and Applied Math 22a: “Solving and Optimizing,” as well as several General Education courses — 1074: “The Ancient Greek Hero” and 1111: “Popular Culture and Modern China” among them — canceled their Wednesday classes, made attendance optional, or extended assignment deadlines.

The move echoes the aftermath of Trump’s first win in 2016, when professors postponed exams and changed lesson plans to lighten students’ schedules.

Economics lecturer Maxim Boycko wrote in a Wednesday email to students in Economics 1010a: “Intermediate Microeconomics” that the course’s typical in-class quizzes would be optional.

“As we recover from the eventful election night and process the implications of Trump’s victory, please know that class will proceed as usual today, except that classroom quizzes will not be for credit,” Boycko wrote. “Feel free to take time off if needed.”

Jack A. Kelly ’26 said he “was tempted to say ‘no’ to class today.”

“I had some professors that have been like, ‘If you need to not come to class, that’s understandable,’” he added. “This definitely takes a toll on people’s mental wellbeing.”

Throughout Wednesday, student organizations, faculty, and House tutors also offered chances to come to terms with the election results.


How improper and unpatriotic is this. For God’s sake… like… there were two parties that had a chance to win the election and the Republicans won fairly. It’s beyond pathetic that you can’t accept that to the point where it interferes with your ability to administer university education/curricula fairly and objectively.

This might be the most pathetic thing I’ve read all month.

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Postby Umeria » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:45 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s unbelievable to me that professors at Harvard are treating the Republican victory in the Presidential Election like it’s an event of mourning.

Republicans run on being the super populist bust-up-the-system outsiders and then get mad when they're treated as such
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Postby Californa state » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:56 am

Trump will hart trans rights. now you call that democratic? all of the republicans please answer me. another thing is abortion he will not legalize it and WHO said that it is a womans wight. Now please I need answers to why people like trump.

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Postby Californa state » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s unbelievable to me that professors at Harvard are treating the Republican victory in the Presidential Election like it’s an event of mourning.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024 ... eelection/

Some professors also encouraged students to process in the aftermath of the election, adjusting course requirements in kind.

Courses such as Sociology 1156: “Statistics for Social Sciences” and Applied Math 22a: “Solving and Optimizing,” as well as several General Education courses — 1074: “The Ancient Greek Hero” and 1111: “Popular Culture and Modern China” among them — canceled their Wednesday classes, made attendance optional, or extended assignment deadlines.

The move echoes the aftermath of Trump’s first win in 2016, when professors postponed exams and changed lesson plans to lighten students’ schedules.

Economics lecturer Maxim Boycko wrote in a Wednesday email to students in Economics 1010a: “Intermediate Microeconomics” that the course’s typical in-class quizzes would be optional.

“As we recover from the eventful election night and process the implications of Trump’s victory, please know that class will proceed as usual today, except that classroom quizzes will not be for credit,” Boycko wrote. “Feel free to take time off if needed.”

Jack A. Kelly ’26 said he “was tempted to say ‘no’ to class today.”

“I had some professors that have been like, ‘If you need to not come to class, that’s understandable,’” he added. “This definitely takes a toll on people’s mental wellbeing.”

Throughout Wednesday, student organizations, faculty, and House tutors also offered chances to come to terms with the election results.


How improper and unpatriotic is this. For God’s sake… like… there were two parties that had a chance to win the election and the Republicans won fairly. It’s beyond pathetic that you can’t accept that to the point where it interferes with your ability to administer university education/curricula fairly and objectively.

This might be the most pathetic thing I’ve read all month.


and how is it democratic for a president in a diverse country to say that.

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Postby Azassas » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:02 am

Umeria wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s unbelievable to me that professors at Harvard are treating the Republican victory in the Presidential Election like it’s an event of mourning.

Republicans run on being the super populist bust-up-the-system outsiders and then get mad when they're treated as such

to me just looks upset partisan professors. happens every time the republicans win

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Postby Yammmy » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:07 am

I don't understand why the Democrats should suffer such a crushing defeat. The Democrats are just on the right track. The value of liberalism should be widespread. :unsure:

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Postby My Holy Cushion » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:09 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:It’s unbelievable to me that professors at Harvard are treating the Republican victory in the Presidential Election like it’s an event of mourning.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024 ... eelection/

Some professors also encouraged students to process in the aftermath of the election, adjusting course requirements in kind.

Courses such as Sociology 1156: “Statistics for Social Sciences” and Applied Math 22a: “Solving and Optimizing,” as well as several General Education courses — 1074: “The Ancient Greek Hero” and 1111: “Popular Culture and Modern China” among them — canceled their Wednesday classes, made attendance optional, or extended assignment deadlines.

The move echoes the aftermath of Trump’s first win in 2016, when professors postponed exams and changed lesson plans to lighten students’ schedules.

Economics lecturer Maxim Boycko wrote in a Wednesday email to students in Economics 1010a: “Intermediate Microeconomics” that the course’s typical in-class quizzes would be optional.

“As we recover from the eventful election night and process the implications of Trump’s victory, please know that class will proceed as usual today, except that classroom quizzes will not be for credit,” Boycko wrote. “Feel free to take time off if needed.”

Jack A. Kelly ’26 said he “was tempted to say ‘no’ to class today.”

“I had some professors that have been like, ‘If you need to not come to class, that’s understandable,’” he added. “This definitely takes a toll on people’s mental wellbeing.”

Throughout Wednesday, student organizations, faculty, and House tutors also offered chances to come to terms with the election results.


How improper and unpatriotic is this. For God’s sake… like… there were two parties that had a chance to win the election and the Republicans won fairly. It’s beyond pathetic that you can’t accept that to the point where it interferes with your ability to administer university education/curricula fairly and objectively.

This might be the most pathetic thing I’ve read all month.


It is an event of mourning, the economy will collapse and millions will lose their rights and suffer. But how is this different from trumpers throwing a fit Biden won and storming the capital? It is not unpatriotic as you dont have to like anybody or anything, saying otherwise proves our point about the nationalism coming where either you love your country or go to jail. And again, NO the republicans did not win fairly as more and more evidence is coming up putting this entire election into question. I suggest you do your research. This was a dark day, and we dont have to like it because you said so.
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Postby The Terren Dominion » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:09 am

Azassas wrote:
Umeria wrote:Republicans run on being the super populist bust-up-the-system outsiders and then get mad when they're treated as such

to me just looks upset partisan professors. happens every time the republicans win

Wellll Trump has threatened to do a lot of things to universities and their professors like banning people from talking about “critical race theory, gender ideology or other inappropriate racial, sexual or political content." which is a kick in the teeth for free education. Keep in mind these are for universities, and many of these things are important to understand. As someone who studies politics that Political content one is particularly horrifying, because that could mean anything. He also wants to make an international version of Trump University, like that wasn't a scam the first time. So yeah, he is a bit scary for educators.
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Postby Kernen » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:13 am

Californa state wrote:Trump will hart trans rights. now you call that democratic? all of the republicans please answer me. another thing is abortion he will not legalize it and WHO said that it is a womans wight. Now please I need answers to why people like trump.

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Postby Cyptopir » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:16 am

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Postby The Terren Dominion » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:16 am

Kernen wrote:
Californa state wrote:Trump will hart trans rights. now you call that democratic? all of the republicans please answer me. another thing is abortion he will not legalize it and WHO said that it is a womans wight. Now please I need answers to why people like trump.

Strictly speaking, democracies needn't recognize or protect individual liberties.

Technincally correct, the best, and in this case worse, type of correct.
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Californa state wrote:Trump will hart trans rights. now you call that democratic? all of the republicans please answer me. another thing is abortion he will not legalize it and WHO said that it is a womans right. Now please I need answers to why people like trump.

When Biden and Harris was in power there were NO WOMENS RIGHTS! The women of America were stripped of their motherhood, for gods sake, MOTHERS DAY was completely abolished. Trump never said he will ban abortion, neither does he agree with it, but he will let the United states of America decide for themselves.
Do you people even know what they do for abortion! THEY ARE MONSTERS!!! THEY TEAR APART INFANTS IN THE MOTHERS WOMB! do you still agree with Harris? Her blank promises fill your blatant hearts with manipulative joy! How dare you complain! you fascists! You say your false prophecies, while swallowing a camel! When Trump won, my joy could not be wiped off my face! The fate of America, The fate of the WORL relies on Trump winning, you take your sheeps clothing of DEMOCRATS and slow away by you truly being socialists! Your wolfs true self, what a disgrace to democracy to you false prophets of wisdom!

What? What happened to mothers day?
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Postby Roylaii » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:16 am

Le Reveille du Guerre wrote:When Biden and Harris was in power there were NO WOMENS RIGHTS! The women of America were stripped of their motherhood, for gods sake, MOTHERS DAY was completely abolished. Trump never said he will ban abortion, neither does he agree with it, but he will let the United states of America decide for themselves.
Do you people even know what they do for abortion! THEY ARE MONSTERS!!! THEY TEAR APART INFANTS IN THE MOTHERS WOMB! do you still agree with Harris? Her blank promises fill your blatant hearts with manipulative joy! How dare you complain! you fascists! You say your false prophecies, while swallowing a camel! When Trump won, my joy could not be wiped off my face! The fate of America, The fate of the WORL relies on Trump winning, you take your sheeps clothing of DEMOCRATS and slow away by you truly being socialists! Your wolfs true self, what a disgrace to democracy to you false prophets of wisdom!

You know Biden is still President until January 20th right? There’s so much to unpack here, surely you can’t be serious.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:17 am

Donald Trump will win the popular vote, but his margin is shrinking a bit. Even then, Trump can be thankful about one thing: there was a broad drop-off in Democratic turnout, especially in suburban and urban areas:

Counties with the biggest Democratic victories in 2020 delivered 1.9 million fewer votes for Ms. Harris than they had for Mr. Biden. The nation’s most Republican-heavy counties turned out an additional 1.2 million votes for Mr. Trump this year, according to the analysis of the 47 states where the vote count is largely complete.

In Pennsylvania, the biggest electoral prize on the battleground map, Mr. Trump’s victory received an outsize boost from an unlikely place — the five counties with the highest percentage of registered Democrats: Allegheny, Delaware, Lackawanna, Montgomery and Philadelphia.

Ms. Harris won these counties, but not by the margins needed to overcome Republican-heavy areas of the state. Total turnout was down from 2020 in all five Democratic strongholds, which could partly explain how Ms. Harris received 78,000 fewer votes than Mr. Biden. Mr. Trump added 24,000 votes to his total in these same counties.

This gap left Ms. Harris with little chance of winning Pennsylvania. Mr. Trump’s victory margin in the state, as of Sunday, was about 145,000 votes.

In Wisconsin, the voter participation rate overall was among the highest of any state. But voters in Democratic-heavy counties simply could not keep pace with gains from their Republican counterparts.

In the eight counties that include Milwaukee, Madison and the surrounding suburbs, Ms. Harris surpassed the Biden totals by about 20,000 votes. But Mr. Trump gained about the same. In the rest of Wisconsin, Democrats were drubbed.

In Michigan, Mr. Trump’s victory was mainly a result of the drop-off in Wayne County, home to Detroit and diverse suburbs like Dearborn and Hamtramck that supply the state with its most significant source of Democratic votes.

While Ms. Harris easily won Wayne County, she did it with 61,000 fewer votes than Mr. Biden had, a decline of about 10 percent, while Mr. Trump added 24,000 votes, a jump of about 9 percent.

That swing limited Ms. Harris’s hopes of winning Michigan, where Mr. Trump was ahead by about 81,000 votes.


There are a varied of reasons for this, ranging from Trump winning over some core Democratic voters to poor messaging to an environment that didn't favor the incumbents. For these reasons and more is why Democrats lost - and for them it can be a hard lesson they learn although an important one: it will allow them to be able to target those voters better - that's if they can get better quality candidates to run.

That said, it also does show that while Trump made gains, they were modest, especially in the key Swing States. But when you bleed support and others decide to stay home because they feel nothing will change or not that enthusiastic, then one expects to lose.
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Postby Azassas » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:18 am

My Holy Cushion wrote:And again, NO the republicans did not win fairly as more and more evidence is coming up putting this entire election into question. I suggest you do your research. This was a dark day, and we dont have to like it because you said so.

explain me more, give me a link. what you mean with: the republicans did not win fairly

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Postby Gran Patria de las Antillas » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:20 am

The Terren Dominion wrote:
What? What happened to mothers day?

nothing, it still exists, so I don't know what this person is talking about
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