The Problem about [Radical] Islam (especially to Turks)

[United Greater Seljuk State]

These times I see a lot of Islamophobic stuff. Especially as an Israel supporter who's coming from a radical pro-Palestine country (which is the Turkish Republic, aka the most west-like Muslim country). All of them want to get rid of our religion (they don't even call it that, they claim it's a death cult by cherrypicking disturbing images from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan etc) so bad, citing very bad things (child marriages, zero women/LGBTQ rights, plus them being murdered and covered head-to-toe), even saying «it's endorsed by verses from Quran». [I will continue this tommorow.]

Moving on... I do NOT force you non-Muslims into any zimmitude, nor I force you to live in a sharia (şeriat here in Turkish Republic) based Eurabia. All I want is to say that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE RADICALLY P3D0PH1LE T3RR0R1STS WHO WANT TO D3STR0Y THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION AT ANY COST. Go look at Azerbaijan, Dagestan, Circassia, Tatarstan, Crimean Tatars, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and other Turkic/non-Middle Eastern Muslims. And look at Azerbaijan: they treat their remaining Jews very well and have a very good relationship with Israel. Don't like the fact that they attacked the de-facto «Republic of Artsakh» and got Israel to support it? Then you can go and support Palestine, who supports Armenia and has a literal street named after it.

Continuing on RADICAL Islam and its problems... If you think we Turks vehemently support H*mas (the perpetrator of the October 7th) and burn everyone who goes against their t3rr0r1st ideals, you're also wrong. By this logic we should also support al-Qaeda, ISIS and Hezbollah. But we don't. You can google who killed Turkish women who refused to cover themselves with pig knots (domuz bağı). You can google who killed Ali Gaffar Okkan, the Head of Security (aka the local police) of Diyarbakir. You can google who killed 2 Turkish soldiers via immolation. You can google who perpetrated the 28 January attacks on the Santa Maria Church in Istanbul while a church service took place (yes, churches still open and function in Turkish Republic).

[Murrakush]

Well, It's worse here in my country.

[Kaumudeen]

Why are you two so desperate to be European? They will never accept us no matter how much we westernize.

[Liberal Malaysia]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that. There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

[El Lazaro]

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Sir, this is a Wendy’s. Please place your order or leave.

[Kaumudeen]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that. There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Brother you're angry, maybe you need to go to the mosque and talk to the imam for guidance.

[Aber Antarctica]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that. There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Brother you're angry, maybe you need to go to the mosque and talk to the imam for guidance.

They're a 'right-wing atheist'...aka a major oxymoron (they're as conservative as a Marxist-Leninist). They're pretty much mentally insane.

[El Lazaro]

Brother you're angry, maybe you need to go to the mosque and talk to the imam for guidance.

They're a 'right-wing atheist'...aka a major oxymoron (they're as conservative as a Marxist-Leninist). They're pretty much mentally insane.

Right-wing atheist is not an oxymoron at all

[Neu California]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that.

Do you have a problem with the rise of Christianity, which has also contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Christians beginning in the first or second century?

There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

Considering how well Muslims have integrated in the US, and the fact that the far-right (almost always Christians, never Muslims) are far more dangerous than them here in the states, I think you're wrong.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Fortunately those are not the two options in ragards to Islam in general, just the extremist variants.

[Syndicasia]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that.

Do you have a problem with the rise of Christianity, which has also contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Christians beginning in the first or second century?

There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

Considering how well Muslims have integrated in the US, and the fact that the far-right (almost always Christians, never Muslims) are far more dangerous than them here in the states, I think you're wrong.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Fortunately those are not the two options in ragards to Islam in general, just the extremist variants.

He's a Malaysian so he sort of does hate Islam the most (not the first Malaysian I met who was like that, but the other is a based transfem communist) and his entire personality on NS is Zionism and singling out Islam. He simply does not care about other religions. Even though Christianity for eg. did justify the biggest slave trade in history (trans-atlantic)

Though I will concede to him on "no true equality or coexistence" in the context of when Islam becomes the law (see: post-1979 Iran, Saudi Arabia, Gaddafi's Libya, etc.)
Although this applies as much for every religion even when religion merely just gains more influence unofficially (see: India post-2014 with Hinduism)

But in general, his account gives bait vibes and I would never make the mistake of responding to him

[United Calanworie]

Brother you're angry, maybe you need to go to the mosque and talk to the imam for guidance.

They're a 'right-wing atheist'...aka a major oxymoron (they're as conservative as a Marxist-Leninist). They're pretty much mentally insane.

Nope. Attack the post, not the poster. With your incredibly recent moderation history, you should have known this by now. Given that you have basically just faffed off since your last DEAT and have come back right to your old patterns, I'm not giving you any leniency for time elapsed: *** 1 week ban for flaming. ***

[Xshor]

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

hey werent you supposed to leave a while back to go on ur honourable crusade or whatever it is u tell urself at night. what happened to that

[Washington-Columbia]

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

hey werent you supposed to leave a while back to go on ur honourable crusade or whatever it is u tell urself at night. what happened to that

Mainstream Hatred's my guess.

[Liberal Malaysia]

The rise of Islam has contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim infidels beginning in the 7th century. As a non-Muslim, I have a huge problem with that.

Do you have a problem with the rise of Christianity, which has also contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Christians beginning in the first or second century?

There is no room for true equality or coexistence in Islam. You either submit or you die.

Considering how well Muslims have integrated in the US, and the fact that the far-right (almost always Christians, never Muslims) are far more dangerous than them here in the states, I think you're wrong.

I WILL NOT SUBMIT. I will NEVER accept dhimmitude or annihilation.

Fortunately those are not the two options in ragards to Islam in general, just the extremist variants.

I do have a problem with the rise of Christianity historically for exactly the same reasons. But most Christians have moved on since then. Christians have never attempted to force their religion onto me through legislation and threats of mob violence. Only Muslims have done that.

I don't live in the States. I'm talking about the whole world. I'm talking about the Muslim world in particular where I live. Your "lived experience" as a privileged American liberal who can afford to disregard Islamic extremism as something totally distant (an example of a woke luxury belief typically held by members of a neoliberal ruling elite and their scions) does not concord with the lived experiences of non-Muslims in the Muslim world who have to deal with this shit constantly on a daily basis. In my country, the far-right are overwhelmingly Muslims, and Muslim extremists pose the greatest existential threat to minorities like us. White supremacy and Christian nationalism are virtually nonexistent here. Non-Muslims in my country are either unable or unwilling to fight for their rights and fail to appreciate the sheer necessity of resistance like the Israelis do.

You are free to openly challenge Christianity or demonstrate every single weekend in support of Hamas and Hezbollah in your country in such a way that I'm not free to openly challenge Islam or express any support Israel whatsoever in my country under pain of arrest or mob intimidation. That is your privilege as a citizen of the freest country in the world. You have the First Amendment, a sympathetic legacy media establishment and an entire apparatus of elite institutions to back you up. We have nothing. Hell, even the Europeans are much worse off than you are in this respect.

Convert, leave or die will be the only options left if Islamic law is ever implemented where you live. If the extremists have their way in my country, these will be our only options.

In any case, we're still waiting for the OP to finish OPing so the discussion is a little open-ended until then.

[Neu California]

Do you have a problem with the rise of Christianity, which has also contributed to the persecution, enslavement and genocide of non-Christians beginning in the first or second century?

Considering how well Muslims have integrated in the US, and the fact that the far-right (almost always Christians, never Muslims) are far more dangerous than them here in the states, I think you're wrong.

Fortunately those are not the two options in ragards to Islam in general, just the extremist variants.

I do have a problem with the rise of Christianity historically for exactly the same reasons. But most Christians have moved on since then. Christians have never attempted to force their religion onto me through legislation and threats of mob violence. Only Muslims have done that.

Here, Christians have repeatedly tried to force their religion onto me and the whole populace through legislation and threats of mob violence. See January 6th, all the attempts to ban abortion and same sex marriage, force the 10 commandments into classrooms, etc. That's why blaming only Muslims for this and not taking Christians and similar to task for doing the same things elsewhere comes off as ridiculously petty.

I don't live in the States. I'm talking about the whole world. I'm talking about the Muslim world in particular where I live.

Pick one: the whole world or where you live.

Your "lived experience" as a privileged American liberal who can afford to disregard Islamic extremism as something totally distant (an example of a woke luxury belief typically held by members of a neoliberal ruling elite and their scions)

What does this even mean? It's just buzzword soup.

does not concord with the lived experiences of non-Muslims in the Muslim world who have to deal with this shit constantly on a daily basis. You are free to openly challenge Christianity or demonstrate every single weekend in support of Hamas and Hezbollah in your country in such a way that I'm not free to openly challenge Islam or express any support Israel whatsoever in my country under pain of arrest or mob intimidation. That is your privilege as a citizen of the freest country in the world. You have the First Amendment, a sympathetic legacy media establishment and an entire apparatus of elite institutions to back you up. We have nothing. Hell, even the Europeans are much worse off than you are in this respect.

I don't buy any of that. Not a word.

Convert, leave or die will be the only options left if Islamic law is ever implemented where you live. If the extremists have their way in my country, these will be our only options.

And what percentage of Muslims in your country are extremists vs. moderates? Show your work with sources.

[Xshor]

You are free to [...] demonstrate every single weekend in support of Hamas and Hezbollah [...] I'm not free to [...] express any support Israel whatsoever in my country under pain of arrest or mob intimidation

honestly an ideal state of affairs

[Syndicasia]

You are free to [...] demonstrate every single weekend in support of Hamas and Hezbollah [...] I'm not free to [...] express any support Israel whatsoever in my country under pain of arrest or mob intimidation

honestly an ideal state of affairs

The best state of affairs as far as policy is concerned would be a prohibition of all revisionism and nationalist deviation; a ban on any pro-national demonstration, regardless of nation!

[Syndicasia]

And what percentage of Muslims in your country are extremists vs. moderates? Show your work with sources.

It's growing in Malaysia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Wave_(Malaysia)

Although Malaysia is officially secular, it is blatantly obvious that conservative religious interests have a dominant role in government and society.

[Celestial Russia]

a ban on any pro-national demonstration, regardless of nation!

With this policy you will achieve the rejection of the Red Banner by the masses of people. Congratulations.
During the transitional period, nations need be brought under a supra-national union, and not simply rudely destroyed.

[Liberal Malaysia]

I do have a problem with the rise of Christianity historically for exactly the same reasons. But most Christians have moved on since then. Christians have never attempted to force their religion onto me through legislation and threats of mob violence. Only Muslims have done that.

Here, Christians have repeatedly tried to force their religion onto me and the whole populace through legislation and threats of mob violence. See January 6th, all the attempts to ban abortion and same sex marriage, force the 10 commandments into classrooms, etc. That's why blaming only Muslims for this and not taking Christians and similar to task for doing the same things elsewhere comes off as ridiculously petty.

I don't live in the States. I'm talking about the whole world. I'm talking about the Muslim world in particular where I live.

Pick one: the whole world or where you live.

Your "lived experience" as a privileged American liberal who can afford to disregard Islamic extremism as something totally distant (an example of a woke luxury belief typically held by members of a neoliberal ruling elite and their scions)

What does this even mean? It's just buzzword soup.

does not concord with the lived experiences of non-Muslims in the Muslim world who have to deal with this shit constantly on a daily basis. You are free to openly challenge Christianity or demonstrate every single weekend in support of Hamas and Hezbollah in your country in such a way that I'm not free to openly challenge Islam or express any support Israel whatsoever in my country under pain of arrest or mob intimidation. That is your privilege as a citizen of the freest country in the world. You have the First Amendment, a sympathetic legacy media establishment and an entire apparatus of elite institutions to back you up. We have nothing. Hell, even the Europeans are much worse off than you are in this respect.

I don't buy any of that. Not a word.

Convert, leave or die will be the only options left if Islamic law is ever implemented where you live. If the extremists have their way in my country, these will be our only options.

And what percentage of Muslims in your country are extremists vs. moderates? Show your work with sources.

I've updated my post:

In my country, the far-right are overwhelmingly Muslims, and Muslim extremists pose the greatest existential threat to minorities like us. White supremacy and Christian nationalism are virtually nonexistent here. Non-Muslims in my country are either unable or unwilling to fight for their rights and fail to appreciate the sheer necessity of resistance like the Israelis do.

Donald Trump appeals to me because he's more secular and religiously apathetic than your typical Christian conservative, and he stands with Israel, the only infidel-majority nation-state in the Middle East. In fact, he's not even conservative at all. He's more of a pragmatist. And your government's not going to arrest you for drawing cartoons of Mohammed or burning copies of the Qur'an. Christian fundamentalists are generally not going to murder you for mocking their prophet. Not in America at least. You have freedom of speech and a meaningful way to challenge abortion bans and other religiously motivated legislation and WIN BIG. You have already overturned abortion bans in a number of states. Your "plight" is temporary and short-lived. Our plight is much more intractable. Christian extremists are peanuts compared to Muslim extremists.

The Muslim and non-Muslim worlds are inseparable at this point due to globalization and ease of travel and instant communication. You should be concerned wherever you live. Nowhere is truly safe from Muslim extremism. Your complacency will be your undoing, and potentially our undoing as well given that who you vote for on Nov. 5 will have a huge impact on U.S. foreign policy and a huge impact on the whole world.

Rob Henderson coined the term luxury beliefs. Look it up.

Your refusal to acknowledge your liberal American privilege is your problem, not mine.

Given that more than half of all Malays and Muslims voted for the far-right Islamofascist party PAS and their Malay ethnonationalist allies in the last general election in 2022 and the pendulum has only tilted even more in their favor in the state elections in 2023, I'd say most Muslims in my country qualify as holding extreme views on Islam and how non-Muslims, i.e. me, ought to be treated. Malays and Muslims also have a much higher birth rate than we do outside of my home state and its next door neighbor. We infidels are essentially living on borrowed time.

Sources: Bridget Welsh, Malaysiakini (paywalled)

If we infidels were to revolt or resist in any meaningful way like the Israelis did in '48, we'd be massacred all over again just as we were on May 13, 1969. If Israel is destroyed due to Harris winning the U.S. presidential election in two weeks time, things will get even worse for us and for the whole world, for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike as genocidal far-right Islamists receive a huge morale boost and double down on their efforts to enslave us all.

[Syndicasia]

a ban on any pro-national demonstration, regardless of nation!

With this policy you will achieve the rejection of the Red Banner by the masses of people. Congratulations.
During the transitional period, nations need be brought under a supra-national union, and not simply rudely destroyed.

Then explain why Lenin and even Stalin had nationalists in the Party jailed and/or murdered, yet the USSR's political stability only came into question far later than that!

Regardless, the national consciousness is a false consciousness and class consciousness shall replace it and this alone would set the stones for the abolition of the nation. Though I do agree that the workers' state would be one international state. In this, the USSR failed as evidenced by the nationalism of the Color Revolutions.

[Neu California]

Here, Christians have repeatedly tried to force their religion onto me and the whole populace through legislation and threats of mob violence. See January 6th, all the attempts to ban abortion and same sex marriage, force the 10 commandments into classrooms, etc. That's why blaming only Muslims for this and not taking Christians and similar to task for doing the same things elsewhere comes off as ridiculously petty.



Pick one: the whole world or where you live.



What does this even mean? It's just buzzword soup.



I don't buy any of that. Not a word.



And what percentage of Muslims in your country are extremists vs. moderates? Show your work with sources.

I've updated my post:

In my country, the far-right are overwhelmingly Muslims, and Muslim extremists pose the greatest existential threat to minorities like us. White supremacy and Christian nationalism are virtually nonexistent here. Non-Muslims in my country are either unable or unwilling to fight for their rights and fail to appreciate the sheer necessity of resistance like the Israelis do.

Donald Trump appeals to me because he's more secular and religiously apathetic than your typical Christian conservative, and he stands with Israel, the only infidel-majority nation-state in the Middle East. In fact, he's not even conservative at all. He's more of a pragmatist.

Donald Trump a pragmatist?

And your government's not going to arrest you for drawing cartoons of Mohammed or burning copies of the Qur'an. Christian fundamentalists are generally not going to murder you for mocking their prophet. Not in America at least. You have freedom of speech and a meaningful way to challenge abortion bans and other religiously motivated legislation and WIN BIG. You have already overturned abortion bans in a number of states. Your "plight" is temporary and short-lived. Our plight is much more intractable. Christian extremists are peanuts compared to Muslim extremists.

It sounds less like your problem is with Muslims and more with the far right in general.

The Muslim and non-Muslim worlds are inseparable at this point due to globalization and ease of travel and instant communication. You should be concerned wherever you live. Nowhere is truly safe from Muslim extremism. Your complacencywill be your undoing, and potentially our undoing as well given that who you vote for on Nov. 5 will have a huge impact on U.S. foreign policy and a huge impact on the whole world.

(BTW, I live in a city that had a Muslim terrorist attack, San Bernardino, and you know what? There was no real move towards islamic extremism or against it. It was a tragedy, but things stayed the same for the most part)

Rob Henderson coined the term luxury beliefs. Look it up.

Your refusal to acknowledge your liberal American privilege is your problem, not mine.

Anmd your inability to actually define these terms in any meaningful way is your problem, not mine.

Given that more than half of all Malays and Muslims voted for the far-right Islamofascist party PAS and their Malay ethnonationalist allies in the last general election in 2022 and the pendulum has only tilted even more in their favor in the state elections in 2023, I'd say most Muslims in my country qualify as holding extreme views on Islam and how non-Muslims, i.e. me, ought to be treated. Malays and Muslims also have a much higher birth rate than we do outside of my home state and its next door neighbor. We infidels are essentially living on borrowed time.

Considering you seem to treat all muslims as extremists, I'm putting little faith in your words.

Sources: Bridget Welsh, Malaysiakini (paywalled)

Not even a link?

If we infidels were to revolt or resist in any meaningful way like the Israelis did in '48, we'd be massacred all over again just as we were on May 13, 1969. If Israel is destroyed due to Harris winning the U.S. presidential election in two weeks time, things will get even worse for us and for the whole world, for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike as genocidal far-right Islamists receive a huge morale boost and double down on their efforts to enslave us all.

Israel is not going to be destroyed under a Harris Presidency, and I sincerely doubt that things are going to get as bad as you claim. Your hyperbole is annoying at best.

[Celestial Russia]

Then explain why Lenin and even Stalin had nationalists in the Party jailed and/or murdered, yet the USSR's political stability only came into question far later than that!

Neither Lenin nor Stalin pursued a policy of crude Russification, nor a policy of exterminating local nations. Moreover, they FINISHED THE FORMATION OF THE UNION NATIONS.
And bourgeois nationalists do not have a monopoly on being nationals.

In the end, the USSR lost not to the nationalists, but to the traitors within the CPSU.

[Syndicasia]

Then explain why Lenin and even Stalin had nationalists in the Party jailed and/or murdered, yet the USSR's political stability only came into question far later than that!

Neither Lenin nor Stalin pursued a policy of crude Russification, nor a policy of exterminating local nations. Moreover, they FINISHED THE FORMATION OF THE UNION NATIONS.
And bourgeois nationalists do not have a monopoly on being nationals.

In the end, the USSR lost not to the nationalists, but to the traitors within the CPSU.

When did I say that the strongest nations would not be given equal treatment to the weakest nations?
Regardless, what I call for is an organic process and based on workers' councils and an international communist party.

But it is a fact that they both did kill nationalists such as Misraid Sultan Galiev and most nationalist politics were suppressed other than a few realpolitik measures such as recognizing Finnish or Ukrainian nationalism

Anyways, read Rosa Luxemburg's take on the national question, especially in her book "The Russian Revolution"

[Liberal Malaysia]

I've updated my post:



Donald Trump appeals to me because he's more secular and religiously apathetic than your typical Christian conservative, and he stands with Israel, the only infidel-majority nation-state in the Middle East. In fact, he's not even conservative at all. He's more of a pragmatist.

Donald Trump a pragmatist?

And your government's not going to arrest you for drawing cartoons of Mohammed or burning copies of the Qur'an. Christian fundamentalists are generally not going to murder you for mocking their prophet. Not in America at least. You have freedom of speech and a meaningful way to challenge abortion bans and other religiously motivated legislation and WIN BIG. You have already overturned abortion bans in a number of states. Your "plight" is temporary and short-lived. Our plight is much more intractable. Christian extremists are peanuts compared to Muslim extremists.

It sounds less like your problem is with Muslims and more with the far right in general.

The Muslim and non-Muslim worlds are inseparable at this point due to globalization and ease of travel and instant communication. You should be concerned wherever you live. Nowhere is truly safe from Muslim extremism. Your complacencywill be your undoing, and potentially our undoing as well given that who you vote for on Nov. 5 will have a huge impact on U.S. foreign policy and a huge impact on the whole world.

(BTW, I live in a city that had a Muslim terrorist attack, San Bernardino, and you know what? There was no real move towards islamic extremism or against it. It was a tragedy, but things stayed the same for the most part)

Rob Henderson coined the term luxury beliefs. Look it up.

Your refusal to acknowledge your liberal American privilege is your problem, not mine.

Anmd your inability to actually define these terms in any meaningful way is your problem, not mine.

Given that more than half of all Malays and Muslims voted for the far-right Islamofascist party PAS and their Malay ethnonationalist allies in the last general election in 2022 and the pendulum has only tilted even more in their favor in the state elections in 2023, I'd say most Muslims in my country qualify as holding extreme views on Islam and how non-Muslims, i.e. me, ought to be treated. Malays and Muslims also have a much higher birth rate than we do outside of my home state and its next door neighbor. We infidels are essentially living on borrowed time.

Considering you seem to treat all muslims as extremists, I'm putting little faith in your words.

Sources: Bridget Welsh, Malaysiakini (paywalled)

Not even a link?

If we infidels were to revolt or resist in any meaningful way like the Israelis did in '48, we'd be massacred all over again just as we were on May 13, 1969. If Israel is destroyed due to Harris winning the U.S. presidential election in two weeks time, things will get even worse for us and for the whole world, for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike as genocidal far-right Islamists receive a huge morale boost and double down on their efforts to enslave us all.

Israel is not going to be destroyed under a Harris Presidency, and I sincerely doubt that things are going to get as bad as you claim. Your hyperbole is annoying at best.

Rob Henderson on luxury beliefs

Luxury beliefs: "Ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class at very little cost, while often inflicting costs on the lower classes"

One example cited by Henderson is "defund the police". "From the River to the Sea" would be another imo. "Islam is a religion of peace" is yet another luxury belief typically held by rich, white liberal Westerners, North Americans and Australasians in particular, who have never experienced the short end of the Islamic stick in their entire lives. America is insulated from the Muslim world by two oceans. There is only one town in the entire country that has a Muslim majority: Hamtramck, MI. That is privilege.

COMMENT | A (still) divided electorate - Reflections on polls outcome: Part 2

The opposition Perikatan Nasional electoral gains were made from increased Malay support. The popular vote for PN reached 49 percent of the total vote in the six state polls, almost on par with the vote of the unity government. PN increased their seats, gaining 61 seats out of 245, especially in Malay majority areas.

The preliminary analysis confirms that the opposition coalition won over the overwhelming majority of Malays voting, an estimated gain of 19 percent, to reach an average in all six elections of an estimated 73 percent of the Malay vote.

[...]

For Pakatan Harapan and Umno, the share of the Malay vote decreased to an overall figure of an estimated 26 percent in the six elections, a figure in line with the Malay vote received for Harapan in 2018.

Not all Muslims are extremists, but if voting habits are any indication, nearly 3/4 of all Malaysian Muslims are far-right extremists or otherwise fash-adjacent, similar to the percentage of Palestinians who support Hamas. If it weren't for the 40% of non-Muslims voting for more "moderate" parties, we would've succumbed to full-blown sharia and Islamofascist theocracy by now. We'd be no different than Iran.

Non-Muslims are the ones who are preventing this country from going bottom-up altogether. We Chinese infidels literally built this economy from the ground up only for our racist government to steal from us by implementing "affirmative action". Our only crime is to be more successful than the average Malay or Muslim. My grandparents immigrated to Malaysia with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now look at us. We're like the Jews of Southeast Asia. Another reason I stand with Israel.