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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:09 am

France 24 reports

What are your thoughts regarding Azerbaijan's genocide against the Armenian Christians of Nagorno-Karabakh? Do you support the extermination and ethnic cleansing of indigenous Christians from their lands and homes by genocidal Muslim conquerors, or do you stand with the people of Armenia in their time of greatest need? Is it "Islamophobic" to challenge Muslim supremacy and territorial aggression against their non-Muslim neighbors? Why do you think a double standard exists in the international community's treatment of Israel vs. its treatment of Azerbaijan?

This clip truly incenses me. Over the past year, neo-Nazi Muslim supremacists have been smugly gloating about their victory over the Christians they just genocided and expelled. What I find particularly offensive is their destruction of a large Christian cross in the region, and I'm an atheist. This is just so fucking racist. Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done. Imagine what the reaction would be internationally. But because Muslims are doing it to Christians, nobody gives a single solitary fuck, least of all Muslims themselves. Where are the calls for BDS? Where are the weekly protests against Azerbaijan? Where are the calls to "globalize the intifada" against Muslims and Azeris around the world and the racial and religious bigotry and hatred that Israel and Jews have been subjected to? Where are the calls for "decolonization" and for Azerbaijan to be wiped off the map and re-populated with Christians "from the river to the sea"?

Why the double standards against Armenians and non-Muslims? Why doesn't Malaysia, leftists or Muslims anywhere in the world give a fuck about the plight of the Armenians?

Is it because they're not Muslims? Because they're not Palestinians? Is that it? Because if that's the reason, then what makes Muslims and Palestinians so special and so worthy of international sympathy in a way that everyone else isn't? Because the same Muslims and communists (and neo-Nazi white supremacists too apparently) who are so outraged with Israel and so concerned about the "plight" of the Palestinians have absolutely nothing to say about Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh. Nothing at all. The silence is deafening.

That goes for the fucking media as well. Credit to France 24 for at least covering this. Other than that, media coverage of Nagorno-Karabakh has been scant compared with the legacy media's pathological, wall-to-wall obsession with Israel and Gaza, and now, Lebanon. That goes for our governments as well. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden don't give a fuck about the Armenians. Pandering to antisemitic, far-left extremists in their own party (and attending sororities) is far more important to them. Antifa and BLM, for all their talk of "social justice", "anti-racism" and "anti-imperialism", simply don't give a fuck about the Armenians because they're not Muslims or Palestinians so there's nothing to see here. Ditto Malaysia and its open support for terrorists.

Long live Armenia. Artsakh belongs to Armenian Christians.

One more thing to note: Azerbaijan has incited genocidal racial pogroms and unrest in New Caledonia to spite France for condemning their Islamofascist, genocidal aggression in Artsakh. That might explain why France 24 has dared to cover this topic after one year. France is slightly less woke than Britain or America.
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Postby Turenia » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:12 am

I think that the actions of Azerbaijan are despicable. That said, it's more of an ethnic conflict than a sectarian one, so I think you're overstating the religious side of it.

The main problem is that Azerbaijan is a major ally for the west in a region that is stacked against us (Iran + Russia).
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Postby Argya » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:15 am

These kinds of Muslims are not true Muslims, just people who managed to get a gun and say it's in the word of the Qur'an when in reality, it's not.

Speaking as a Muslim, this kind of behaviour is deplorable and obscene.
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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:16 am

This has been a travesty ongoing for much of these last twenty years in Asia and the Middle East, and few, in the west at least, seems to care much.
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Postby So uh lab here » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:16 am

Yeah, this is one of the few times I actually support Russia's side in a conflict, Armenia has been Christian for over a thousand years in fact way back during the time of the roman empire there king converted, sadly this has led to at least two attempted genocides.
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Postby Argya » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:19 am

So uh lab here wrote:Yeah, this is one of the few times I actually support Russia's side in a conflict, Armenia has been Christian for over a thousand years in fact way back during the time of the roman empire there king converted, sadly this has led to at least two attempted genocides.

Same here, I'm a liberal Muslim (acceptance of change) and I actually support Russia this one time.
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So uh lab here wrote:Yeah, this is one of the few times I actually support Russia's side in a conflict, Armenia has been Christian for over a thousand years in fact way back during the time of the roman empire there king converted, sadly this has led to at least two attempted genocides.

"Russia's side"? Russia hung Armenia out to dry.
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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:22 am

i think you're definitely overplaying the religious elements here, but a genocide is a genocide. fuck turkey and azerbaijan for not only perpetrating it but continuing to deny the genocide of armenians in 1915.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:24 am

Turenia wrote:
So uh lab here wrote:Yeah, this is one of the few times I actually support Russia's side in a conflict, Armenia has been Christian for over a thousand years in fact way back during the time of the roman empire there king converted, sadly this has led to at least two attempted genocides.

"Russia's side"? Russia hung Armenia out to dry.

Yeah, to the point where Armenia is trying to pull out of CSTO and is cuddling up to the US while Turkey is still (on paper) a US ally.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:31 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done.

The flight of Armenians from the Republic of Artsakh displaced over 100,000 people and caused 288 deaths.

Israel has displaced over 1,900,000 people within Gaza, a slightly lower percentage of the total population than those who fled Artsakh, and caused at least 40,000 deaths, likely many more.
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Postby Cristiano Imperio de la Raza » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:38 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:France 24 reports

What are your thoughts regarding Azerbaijan's genocide against the Armenian Christians of Nagorno-Karabakh? Do you support the extermination and ethnic cleansing of indigenous Christians from their lands and homes by genocidal Muslim conquerors, or do you stand with the people of Armenia in their time of greatest need? Is it "Islamophobic" to challenge Muslim supremacy and territorial aggression against their non-Muslim neighbors? Why do you think a double standard exists in the international community's treatment of Israel vs. its treatment of Azerbaijan?

This clip truly incenses me. Over the past year, neo-Nazi Muslim supremacists have been smugly gloating about their victory over the Christians they just genocided and expelled. What I find particularly offensive is their destruction of a large Christian cross in the region, and I'm an atheist. This is just so fucking racist. Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done. Imagine what the reaction would be internationally. But because Muslims are doing it to Christians, nobody gives a single solitary fuck, least of all Muslims themselves. Where are the calls for BDS? Where are the weekly protests against Azerbaijan? Where are the calls to "globalize the intifada" against Muslims and Azeris around the world and the racial and religious bigotry and hatred that Israel and Jews have been subjected to? Where are the calls for "decolonization" and for Azerbaijan to be wiped off the map and re-populated with Christians "from the river to the sea"?

Why the double standards against Armenians and non-Muslims? Why doesn't Malaysia, leftists or Muslims anywhere in the world give a fuck about the plight of the Armenians?

Is it because they're not Muslims? Because they're not Palestinians? Is that it? Because if that's the reason, then what makes Muslims and Palestinians so special and so worthy of international sympathy in a way that everyone else isn't? Because the same Muslims and communists (and neo-Nazi white supremacists too apparently) who are so outraged with Israel and so concerned about the "plight" of the Palestinians have absolutely nothing to say about Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh. Nothing at all. The silence is deafening.

That goes for the fucking media as well. Credit to France 24 for at least covering this. Other than that, media coverage of Nagorno-Karabakh has been scant compared with the legacy media's pathological, wall-to-wall obsession with Israel and Gaza, and now, Lebanon. That goes for our governments as well. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden don't give a fuck about the Armenians. Pandering to antisemitic, far-left extremists in their own party (and attending sororities) is far more important to them. Antifa and BLM, for all their talk of "social justice", "anti-racism" and "anti-imperialism", simply don't give a fuck about the Armenians because they're not Muslims or Palestinians so there's nothing to see here. Ditto Malaysia and its open support for terrorists.

Long live Armenia. Artsakh belongs to Armenian Christians.

One more thing to note: Azerbaijan has incited genocidal racial pogroms and unrest in New Caledonia to spite France for condemning their Islamofascist, genocidal aggression in Artsakh. That might explain why France 24 has dared to cover this topic after one year. France is slightly less woke than Britain or America.


Unfortunately, it’s not such a widely known topic, thanks to the reasons you brought up. But, this is nothing new. Ever wonder where the Kurds came from? Ever wonder why their land intersects with historical Armenia so much? It’s because the Kurds were paid with land and money by Muslim leaders to raid and slaughter Armenia. In exchange, they were paid and/or given the land they stole. The Kurds are from Eastern Iran. The Azeris just showed up one day as Turkic nomads and started to take Armenian land. Despite this most of their people are in Northern Iran. Who built Baku? Armenians. The Ottomans exterminated the Armenians from much of Western Turkey by deporting and murdering them. The same with the Greeks throughout much, mostly the East of Turkey. Funny enough, Turkey still denies this. They did it to the Bulgars and Christian Assyrians as well. We can also talk about what is going on in Cyprus. When they tried to join Greece the Brits and Turks got angry. The Turks and Greeks exchanged their people so that Greeks were in the south and Turks in the north then the Turks flooded the north with over 100,000 Turks. Iraq has been putting its Christians on the front lines of its war with the Kurds. Syrian Christians are in danger from anti-government militant groups. These are all genocides against Christians that no one but Christians tends to bring up. In fact, amongst the leftists who support Palestine, I have also debated with them because they believed Azerbaijan was in the right. The Armenians are a suffering people with a large diaspora and yet the US sends funding to Azerbaijan and Turkey. Turkey has shot down one of our jets and both nations have kidnapped our citizens. We must wake up to these tragedies.

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Postby Cristiano Imperio de la Raza » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:40 am

Turenia wrote:I think that the actions of Azerbaijan are despicable. That said, it's more of an ethnic conflict than a sectarian one, so I think you're overstating the religious side of it.

The main problem is that Azerbaijan is a major ally for the west in a region that is stacked against us (Iran + Russia).

Not exactly the case though. Iran is wary of helping Azerbaijan because most Azeris live in Iran. If they help them they might rebel or want a full unified state. And, Armenia has historically been an ally of Russia. It is mostly ethnic but is strongly aided by religious differences.
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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:41 am

Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:Russia has historically been an ally of Russia.

no fucking way. really? i didn't know that
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Postby Cristiano Imperio de la Raza » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:42 am

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Turenia wrote:"Russia's side"? Russia hung Armenia out to dry.

Yeah, to the point where Armenia is trying to pull out of CSTO and is cuddling up to the US while Turkey is still (on paper) a US ally.

So is Azerbaijan, we send money to both Turkey and Azerbaijan.

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Postby Cristiano Imperio de la Raza » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:43 am

HISPIDA wrote:
Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:Russia has historically been an ally of Russia.

no fucking way. really? i didn't know that

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Stellar Colonies wrote:Yeah, to the point where Armenia is trying to pull out of CSTO and is cuddling up to the US while Turkey is still (on paper) a US ally.

So is Azerbaijan, we send money to both Turkey and Azerbaijan.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:45 am

Turenia wrote:I think that the actions of Azerbaijan are despicable. That said, it's more of an ethnic conflict than a sectarian one, so I think you're overstating the religious side of it.

The main problem is that Azerbaijan is a major ally for the west in a region that is stacked against us (Iran + Russia).

Yes, it is a problem that the west continues allying with perpetrators of genocide instead of trying to prevent genocide.
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Postby Cristiano Imperio de la Raza » Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:45 am

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Liberal Malaysia wrote:Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done.

The flight of Armenians from the Republic of Artsakh displaced over 100,000 people and caused 288 deaths.

Israel has displaced over 1,900,000 people within Gaza, a slightly lower percentage of the total population than those who fled Artsakh, and caused at least 40,000 deaths, likely many more.

The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.

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Ifreann wrote:The flight of Armenians from the Republic of Artsakh displaced over 100,000 people and caused 288 deaths.

Israel has displaced over 1,900,000 people within Gaza, a slightly lower percentage of the total population than those who fled Artsakh, and caused at least 40,000 deaths, likely many more.

The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.

Whatever one might wish to say about why Israel has done these things, this statement "Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done" is just staggeringly absurd.
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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:02 am

Ifreann wrote:
Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.

Whatever one might wish to say about why Israel has done these things, this statement "Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done" is just staggeringly absurd.

israel gets a pass because it isn't filled with saracens. get with the times, ifreann.
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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:13 am

Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The flight of Armenians from the Republic of Artsakh displaced over 100,000 people and caused 288 deaths.

Israel has displaced over 1,900,000 people within Gaza, a slightly lower percentage of the total population than those who fled Artsakh, and caused at least 40,000 deaths, likely many more.

The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.


The former is self-defense. The latter is genocide.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:17 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:
Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.


The former is self-defense. The latter is genocide.


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It's an absolute tragedy and shame that NATO is backing Azerbaijan's actions and has let Ilyev commit a literal ethnic cleansing of Armenians from Artsakh, one of the worst ones ever committed this century with hundreds of thousands in refugees and hundreds dead. It's also a massive tragedy that the media barely, if at all, covered this so as to not make the west look complicit in this war crime. I hope that Armenia can regain control of their illegally stolen territory and repopulate it with Artsakh natives and restore honour to their country. And I hope Ilyev is prosecuted for his crimes, the same as Putin and BiBi.
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Postby Turenia » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Turenia wrote:I think that the actions of Azerbaijan are despicable. That said, it's more of an ethnic conflict than a sectarian one, so I think you're overstating the religious side of it.

The main problem is that Azerbaijan is a major ally for the west in a region that is stacked against us (Iran + Russia).

Yes, it is a problem that the west continues allying with perpetrators of genocide instead of trying to prevent genocide.

That is not what i meant.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:28 am

HISPIDA wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Whatever one might wish to say about why Israel has done these things, this statement "Imagine if Israel did even one-tenth of what Azerbaijan has done" is just staggeringly absurd.

israel gets a pass because it isn't filled with saracens. get with the times, ifreann.

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Cristiano Imperio de la Raza wrote:The difference is the reason for doing it. Israel is not doing just because they are Arabs but because its a counterattack. Azerbaijan is doing it because they can and they don’t like Armenians.


The former is self-defense. The latter is genocide.

The former has displaced nineteen times more people and killed over one hundred and thirty times more people. I trust you have sufficient grasp of mathematics to understand how much more that is than "one tenth".
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