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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
La Xinga wrote:If the Era of the Prophets return, perhaps you will have a point.

So then you don't really have any good reason to differentiate between Hamas having military assets among the civilian population and Israel doing likewise. The former counts as using human shields and the latter doesn't because...just because.

I suppose it's not just Fame who doesn't read my posts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Postby Fame And Even More Fame » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:40 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:You said that Hamas puts their assets specifically so that Israel kills civilians whilst bombing them. Where could Hamas put their assets where it would be impossible to kill civilians if struck?

I told you where to put them, and that was not what I said, but I'm not going to go in circles with you like the last time you gave me this type of stuff.

Where could Hamas put their assets that are not densely populated areas?
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:42 pm

Fame And Even More Fame wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I told you where to put them, and that was not what I said, but I'm not going to go in circles with you like the last time you gave me this type of stuff.

Where could Hamas put their assets that are not densely populated areas?

Are you attempting to get me to change my answer via the tried-and-true method of restating the question eleven times?

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:47 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So then you don't really have any good reason to differentiate between Hamas having military assets among the civilian population and Israel doing likewise. The former counts as using human shields and the latter doesn't because...just because.

I suppose it's not just Fame who doesn't read my posts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I read them. And they don't contain any good reasons. Which leads me to believe that the real answer is just that you're applying a double standard.
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Postby Fame And Even More Fame » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:48 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:Where could Hamas put their assets that are not densely populated areas?

Are you attempting to get me to change my answer via the tried-and-true method of restating the question eleven times?

No, I’m trying to get you to answer the question.
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Postby Outer Bratorke » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:50 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:Where could Hamas put their assets that are not densely populated areas?

Are you attempting to get me to change my answer via the tried-and-true method of restating the question eleven times?

"In oblivion" is not a serious answer.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I suppose it's not just Fame who doesn't read my posts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I read them. And they don't contain any good reasons. Which leads me to believe that the real answer is just that you're applying a double standard.

I certainly know my intentions in my posts, unless you can read my mind too, apparently a common phenomenon here. Sorry that you don't believe my reasons are "good", I suppose?
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Are you attempting to get me to change my answer via the tried-and-true method of restating the question eleven times?

No, I’m trying to get you to answer the question.

For whatever reason, you don't think my answer qualifies as "answering the question", so you'll either have to take it or continue contributing to your post number.
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La Xinga wrote:Are you attempting to get me to change my answer via the tried-and-true method of restating the question eleven times?

"In oblivion" is not a serious answer.

He asked me what I expected of them, I gave the only true answer. But I will make sure to consult the Council of Outer Bratorke next time I give an answer to something, to see whether they consider it "serious" or not.

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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I read them. And they don't contain any good reasons. Which leads me to believe that the real answer is just that you're applying a double standard.

I certainly know my intentions in my posts, unless you can read my mind too, apparently a common phenomenon here. Sorry that you don't believe my reasons are "good", I suppose?
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:No, I’m trying to get you to answer the question.

For whatever reason, you don't think my answer qualifies as "answering the question", so you'll either have to take it or continue contributing to your post number.
Outer Bratorke wrote:"In oblivion" is not a serious answer.

He asked me what I expected of them, I gave the only true answer. But I will make sure to consult the Council of Outer Bratorke next time I give an answer to something, to see whether they consider it "serious" or not.

Nonanswers are pretty universally understood as not serious.
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Postby Fame And Even More Fame » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:55 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I read them. And they don't contain any good reasons. Which leads me to believe that the real answer is just that you're applying a double standard.

I certainly know my intentions in my posts, unless you can read my mind too, apparently a common phenomenon here. Sorry that you don't believe my reasons are "good", I suppose?
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:No, I’m trying to get you to answer the question.

For whatever reason, you don't think my answer qualifies as "answering the question", so you'll either have to take it or continue contributing to your post number.
Outer Bratorke wrote:"In oblivion" is not a serious answer.

He asked me what I expected of them, I gave the only true answer. But I will make sure to consult the Council of Outer Bratorke next time I give an answer to something, to see whether they consider it "serious" or not.

Would you care repeating your answer? In case I somehow missed an actual answer and not the nonsense I remember?
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:57 pm

Ors Might wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I certainly know my intentions in my posts, unless you can read my mind too, apparently a common phenomenon here. Sorry that you don't believe my reasons are "good", I suppose?

For whatever reason, you don't think my answer qualifies as "answering the question", so you'll either have to take it or continue contributing to your post number.

He asked me what I expected of them, I gave the only true answer. But I will make sure to consult the Council of Outer Bratorke next time I give an answer to something, to see whether they consider it "serious" or not.

Nonanswers are pretty universally understood as not serious.

If someone doesn't feel my answer is an answer, they're under no obligation to engage with it.
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I certainly know my intentions in my posts, unless you can read my mind too, apparently a common phenomenon here. Sorry that you don't believe my reasons are "good", I suppose?

For whatever reason, you don't think my answer qualifies as "answering the question", so you'll either have to take it or continue contributing to your post number.

He asked me what I expected of them, I gave the only true answer. But I will make sure to consult the Council of Outer Bratorke next time I give an answer to something, to see whether they consider it "serious" or not.

Would you care repeating your answer? In case I somehow missed an actual answer and not the nonsense I remember?

Well, what's the so-called "nonsense you remember"? Perhaps it's an answer and not nonsense!

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Postby Fame And Even More Fame » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:58 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Nonanswers are pretty universally understood as not serious.

If someone doesn't feel my answer is an answer, they're under no obligation to engage with it.
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:Would you care repeating your answer? In case I somehow missed an actual answer and not the nonsense I remember?

Well, what's the so-called "nonsense you remember"? Perhaps it's an answer and not nonsense!

Is dodging questions your specialty or something?
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:00 pm

Fame And Even More Fame wrote:
La Xinga wrote:If someone doesn't feel my answer is an answer, they're under no obligation to engage with it.

Well, what's the so-called "nonsense you remember"? Perhaps it's an answer and not nonsense!

Is dodging questions your specialty or something?

Dodging a question by asking someone if dodging questions is their specialty. This is something which I did not expect.

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Postby SusScorfa » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:04 pm

The Iranian president saying that the reason they took so long to respond to Haniyeh assassination was that the international community told them that by not retaliating they'd get a ceasefire in Gaza. I'm assuming that he means the US and company with the international community and that the Nasrallah killing forced them to retaliate.

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Ors Might
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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:04 pm

Fame And Even More Fame wrote:
La Xinga wrote:If someone doesn't feel my answer is an answer, they're under no obligation to engage with it.

Well, what's the so-called "nonsense you remember"? Perhaps it's an answer and not nonsense!

Is dodging questions your specialty or something?

They're also free to ask that you actually respond to the question asked. You've spent time on a debate forum, you should be capable of doing that.
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:07 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Fame And Even More Fame wrote:Is dodging questions your specialty or something?

They're also free to ask that you actually respond to the question asked. You've spent time on a debate forum, you should be capable of doing that.

They're also free to respond to the question which I've asked them without immediately asking me to answer theirs (which I have already responded to).
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Postby Areebistan » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:09 pm

SusScorfa wrote:The Iranian president saying that the reason they took so long to respond to Haniyeh assassination was that the international community told them that by not retaliating they'd get a ceasefire in Gaza. I'm assuming that he means the US and company with the international community and that the Nasrallah killing forced them to retaliate.


Simply just excuses for not acting earlier. The iranians care for the palestinians as much as the saudis and emiratis do, they are just 'retaliating' to seem like the protectors of palestine in the eyes of the foolish muslims across the world, who are falling for their act.
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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:10 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ors Might wrote:They're also free to ask that you actually respond to the question asked. You've spent time on a debate forum, you should be capable of doing that.

They're also free to respond to the question which I've asked them without immediately asking me to answer theirs (which I have already responded to).

But you haven't responded in any meaningful way.
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Postby SusScorfa » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:10 pm

Areebistan wrote:
SusScorfa wrote:The Iranian president saying that the reason they took so long to respond to Haniyeh assassination was that the international community told them that by not retaliating they'd get a ceasefire in Gaza. I'm assuming that he means the US and company with the international community and that the Nasrallah killing forced them to retaliate.


Simply just excuses for not acting earlier. The iranians care for the palestinians as much as the saudis and emiratis do, they are just 'retaliating' to seem like the protectors of palestine in the eyes of the foolish muslims across the world, who are falling for their act.


Well, when its the only game in town..

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Postby Turenia » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:11 pm

SusScorfa wrote:The Iranian president saying that the reason they took so long to respond to Haniyeh assassination was that the international community told them that by not retaliating they'd get a ceasefire in Gaza. I'm assuming that he means the US and company with the international community and that the Nasrallah killing forced them to retaliate.

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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:12 pm

Ors Might wrote:
La Xinga wrote:They're also free to respond to the question which I've asked them without immediately asking me to answer theirs (which I have already responded to).

But you haven't responded in any meaningful way.

Alright, now I have two councils to go to before I post: the Council of Outer Bratorke to see if my posts are "serious", and the Council of Ors Might to see if my posts are "meaningful".
My answer for what they should do is perfectly clear, anything less than that is bad.

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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:15 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ors Might wrote:But you haven't responded in any meaningful way.

Alright, now I have two councils to go to before I post: the Council of Outer Bratorke to see if my posts are "serious", and the Council of Ors Might to see if my posts are "meaningful".
My answer for what they should do is perfectly clear, anything less than that is bad.

You can do this weird sort of whining all you want. Being criticized for how you post isn't anything to do a whole song and dance over, though.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:17 pm

Ors Might wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Alright, now I have two councils to go to before I post: the Council of Outer Bratorke to see if my posts are "serious", and the Council of Ors Might to see if my posts are "meaningful".
My answer for what they should do is perfectly clear, anything less than that is bad.

You can do this weird sort of whining all you want. Being criticized for how you post isn't anything to do a whole song and dance over, though.

It's truly a shame they don't like my posting style, and they're free to foe-list me if they'd like.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:19 pm

Areebistan wrote:
SusScorfa wrote:The Iranian president saying that the reason they took so long to respond to Haniyeh assassination was that the international community told them that by not retaliating they'd get a ceasefire in Gaza. I'm assuming that he means the US and company with the international community and that the Nasrallah killing forced them to retaliate.


Simply just excuses for not acting earlier. The iranians care for the palestinians as much as the saudis and emiratis do, they are just 'retaliating' to seem like the protectors of palestine in the eyes of the foolish muslims across the world, who are falling for their act.


Well, no other country seems to be protecting the Muslim world from American hegemony.
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Postby Ors Might » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:19 pm

La Xinga wrote:
Ors Might wrote:You can do this weird sort of whining all you want. Being criticized for how you post isn't anything to do a whole song and dance over, though.

It's truly a shame they don't like my posting style, and they're free to foe-list me if they'd like.

I'm sure they're just as aware as the foe-list feature as you are on how to respond to a question.
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Postby Kaumudeen » Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:20 pm

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