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Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:28 pm**

Pnsku Sovregard wrote:
New Westmore wrote:Because it's so painfully easy to shit on furries, that's why. I'm partial towards them; I genuinely admire the creative talent some of the people in the community have, and I have met many furries who are some of the coolest people I have ever known, but again, their "niche" interests make them an easy target to harass and bully without consequence.

On another note, I personally believe that even now, hate for furries is just dwindling into effective silence, as it should be. Nobody should get harassed for just being themselves, unless them being themselves entails causing physical and mental harm to their peers.

And fuck people who identify as anti-furries. Like what the hell is wrong with you?

I know the difference between humans and animals, that's whats wrong with me.

Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:30 pm**

New Westmore wrote:
Pnsku Sovregard wrote:I know the difference between humans and animals, that's whats wrong with me.

Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Yes, but they are dirty and unclean, we are far better.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:34 pm**

Pnsku Sovregard wrote:
New Westmore wrote:Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Yes, but they are dirty and unclean, we are far better.

We are more dirty and unclean than a lowly pig, if you are going to look at it from that way. What the hell kind of animal does half of the things we inflict upon ourselves on a daily basis?

Anyway, back on furries: I have never met one who identifies as an animal. This is another common misconception made about the community as a whole. Wearing a fursuit doesn't automatically mean you identify as the animal that suit represents.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:34 pm**

Humans are humans and animals are animals.
Can't mix both.
~~through humans and machines... seems like something interesting can get out of there....~~

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:34 pm**

Pnsku Sovregard wrote:Yes, but they are dirty and unclean, we are far better.

No.

I once had the misfortune to know someone whose dirty onion armpit stench was enough to make my eyes sting. I threw him out of my life when he started listening to YouTube fascists, so I thankfully never have to smell him again.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:36 pm**

New Westmore wrote:Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Tbh I personally consider humans now their own specie, we have trascended as beings from being unconcious animals to something more, being in the animal kingdom doesn't make justice to our magnificense.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:37 pm**

Imma come out and say it; people who dress up in military gear and do airsoft and such are essentially the same as furries, they just have different interests.

Neonian Imperium wrote:
New Westmore wrote:Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Tbh I personally consider humans now their own specie, we have trascended as beings from being unconcious animals to something more, being in the animal kingdom doesn't make justice to our magnificense.

If you're gonna show up and spout nonsense (I.e. claiming humans are our own species as if it's a crazy revelation and not fact), at least learn to spell the words in your argument correctly...

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:38 pm**

Neonian Imperium wrote:
New Westmore wrote:Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Tbh I personally consider humans now their own specie, we have trascended as beings from being unconcious animals to something more, being in the animal kingdom doesn't make justice to our magnificense.

You clearly never bothered to study biology, and it shows.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:40 pm**

Neonian Imperium wrote:Humans are humans and animals are animals.
Can't mix both.
~~through humans and machines... seems like something interesting can get out of there....~~

Science would like to have a talk
Humans are an animal. The only thing that truly makes us unique is the fact we have a higher degree of intelligence compared to the rest of life on Earth. And like I said before:

Being a fursuiter doesn't mean you automatically identify as the animal it represents. At most, it is the equivalent of a Halloween costume, and I don't think you really ever see people walking around and identifying as the Headless Horseman now, do you?

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:42 pm**

Cyptopir wrote:
Neonian Imperium wrote:Tbh I personally consider humans now their own specie, we have trascended as beings from being unconcious animals to something more, being in the animal kingdom doesn't make justice to our magnificense.

If you're gonna show up and spout nonsense (I.e. claiming humans are our own species as if it's a crazy revelation and not fact), at least learn to spell the words in your argument correctly...

Using google translate and my cheap public education in a third world country to speak english, sorry.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:44 pm**

Neonian Imperium wrote:
New Westmore wrote:Humans still classify as a type of animal. Our scientific name in the Animal Kingdom is Homo Sapiens.

Tbh I personally consider humans now their own specie, we have trascended as beings from being unconcious animals to something more, being in the animal kingdom doesn't make justice to our magnificense.

We evolved from a common ancestor of chimpanzees. What biologically separates us from apes?

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:55 pm**

New Westmore wrote:
Pnsku Sovregard wrote:Yes, but they are dirty and unclean, we are far better.

We are more dirty and unclean than a lowly pig, if you are going to look at it from that way. What the hell kind of animal does half of the things we inflict upon ourselves on a daily basis

It is perfectly rational to make pigs live in filth, it's the most economical way to treat them
/s

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:01 pm**

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:My gorilla suit was hand clean only, and that will never get rid of the smell. Had to get rid of it.

Perhaps you should have used shoe deodorizer spray.

Now that is cold.

The hair got matted too. It was great for Halloween, but 12 years it just had to go.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:01 pm**

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:My gorilla suit was hand clean only, and that will never get rid of the smell. Had to get rid of it.

Perhaps you should have used shoe deodorizer spray.

Now that is cold.

The hair got matted too. It was great for Halloween, but 12 years it just had to go.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:03 pm**

People are bigoted and mean. Furries are fine let people live man.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:07 pm**

Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:People are bigoted and mean. Furries are fine let people live man.

It’s always refreshing to see some common sense on NS General

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:39 pm**

I'd say (opinion, so no evidence) that 35% who are against just bandwagon the opinion of;
30% which are against because they find it "strange", with an additional 10% which find it "disgusting".

15% are against because of bad past experiences in online furry communities (for some reason they do tend to overlap with either Atomw--- type far-right extremists or Stalinist-tankie level of far-left extremists). These have the most justified reason but I believe they have a selection bias. The overlap probably covers less than 1/8 of all furries, I imagine.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:42 pm**

I think that it is primarily that, people are not animals. There is no use pretending to be something that you are not. A two year old kid pretending to be a dinosaur or a unicorn or something is one thing, but a full grow adult doing it can be seen as strange, as, no matter how much they pretend, it is a simple fact that humans are not animals.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:44 pm**

Urine Town wrote:
Saxony-Brandenburg wrote:People are bigoted and mean. Furries are fine let people live man.

It’s always refreshing to see some common sense on NS General

Agreed.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:45 pm**

High Earth wrote:I think that it is primarily that, people are not animals. There is no use pretending to be something that you are not. A two year old kid pretending to be a dinosaur or a unicorn or something is one thing, but a full grow adult doing it can be seen as strange, as, no matter how much they pretend, it is a simple fact that humans are not animals.

That'd be the 30% I've mentioned above which find it "strange".

I just don't really care about how others form their identities. I'll respect the choices but all identities to me are too intangible to be placed on a pedestal when evaluating a person.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:47 pm**

BEEstreetz wrote:
High Earth wrote:I think that it is primarily that, people are not animals. There is no use pretending to be something that you are not. A two year old kid pretending to be a dinosaur or a unicorn or something is one thing, but a full grow adult doing it can be seen as strange, as, no matter how much they pretend, it is a simple fact that humans are not animals.

That'd be the 30% I've mentioned above which find it "strange".

I just don't really care about how others form their identities. I'll respect the choices but all identities to me are too intangible to be placed on a pedestal when evaluating a person.

Thing is, when you're a grown adult cosplaying animals, people will look at you weird. Because you're pretending to be someone you aren't. It's that simple.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:51 pm**

Gorutimania wrote:Thing is, when you're a grown adult cosplaying animals, people will look at you weird. Because you're pretending to be someone you aren't. It's that simple.

Thing is, when you judge people for this kinda thing, people will find you distasteful. Because you're being excessively judgemental. It'ts that simple.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:14 pm**

Gorutimania wrote:Thing is, when you're a grown adult cosplaying animals, people will look at you weird. Because you're pretending to be someone you aren't. It's that simple.

People who make such shallow judgements can be safely discarded from one's life; doing so is often a prerequisite for tranquility. The beliefs and opinions of judgemental naysayers are ultimately immaterial; a society that shames and coerces harmless countercultures and minorities into submissive compliance, yet permits and even lionizes great injustices, must be rebuked until it is reformed into something more fair and just.

Besides, why waste time fretting about furries? The world has real problems.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:27 pm**

Gorutimania wrote:
BEEstreetz wrote:That'd be the 30% I've mentioned above which find it "strange".

I just don't really care about how others form their identities. I'll respect the choices but all identities to me are too intangible to be placed on a pedestal when evaluating a person.

Thing is, when you're a grown adult cosplaying animals, people will look at you weird. Because you're pretending to be someone you aren't. It's that simple.

Sure, whenever I see identity expression (national/stoner/feminist-by-aesthetic/tesco-lovers-club) in public I do think "that's a bit odd" myself, but I rarely dwell on it further than that.
As long as you're not coming to the same workplace as me with an "I love coffee" t-shirt and a Rastafari hoodie (examples), I don't care, doesn't effect me.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:33 pm**

Gorutimania wrote:
BEEstreetz wrote:That'd be the 30% I've mentioned above which find it "strange".

I just don't really care about how others form their identities. I'll respect the choices but all identities to me are too intangible to be placed on a pedestal when evaluating a person.

Thing is, when you're a grown adult cosplaying animals, people will look at you weird. Because you're pretending to be someone you aren't. It's that simple.

High words coming from someone who associates with fascists. Anyway, so what if it's weird? There's a reason "niche" is a thing, and niche doesn't mean bad outright.

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Why are so many people so against furries?