Why are so many people so against furries?

[Cannot think of a name]

Othering is addictive.

[Gaybeans]

Othering is addictive.

Honestly this response is hitting the nail on the head.

[High Earth]

I think that it is primarily that, people are not animals. There is no use pretending to be something that you are not. A two year old kid pretending to be a dinosaur or a unicorn or something is one thing, but a full grow adult doing it can be seen as strange, as, no matter how much they pretend, it is a simple fact that humans are not animals.

Scientifically, people are animals - we are derived from a common ancestor with hominids like chimpanzees. And I mean, NationStates and tons of other games just like it revolves on the idea of pretending to be something you aren't - in this case, a nation. So what? Let them have fun, like we have fun here.

That is a fair point. What I meant is not that humans are not biologically animals, but that we are our own species of animals. It would be like a horse pretending to be a dog, which is impossible. I am not saying that it is a huge problem, just that there is no real reason for people to pretend to be something that they are not (And about nation states, I a pretending to be a leader of a nation, not a nation itself.) Quite frankly, I find furries unsettling, but I never outwardly go after them, I just tend to avoid them.

[Brainish Laconia]

Othering is addictive.

It's why the indigenous so often called themselves Real People.

[Hurdergaryp]

It was a joke. Wasn't meant to be serious

Ah, sorry. Yet another instance where a joke flew over my head.

Jokes, in my NationStates General? Shock and outrage!

[Osmauri]

Othering is addictive.

This right here.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If people want to pretend to be animals, let them.

Just don't get upset if people treat them as such is all I'm saying.

[The Apollonian Systems]

If people want to pretend to be animals, let them.

Just don't get upset if people treat them as such is all I'm saying.

Yah I don’t think that’s an excuse for saying in public how you want to go around killing them.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If people want to pretend to be animals, let them.

Just don't get upset if people treat them as such is all I'm saying.

Yah I don’t think that’s an excuse for saying in public how you want to go around killing them.

And the award for the longest distance traveled in the Standing Long Jump goes too.....

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People conflate disgust with morality. They assume they are one and the same, that anything that disgusts them is wrong.

Why are some people disgusted by furries? Well, broadly because we are still amidst a centuries long hangover from Puritanism. The Puritan mindset conflates furries with beastiality. Now, let's stop to acknowledge that most of furry culture is not sexual, and most sexual furries are not actually into animals. But of the minority that are actually into animals, so what? The ONLY thing that makes beastiality morally wrong is that it may inflict distress on an animal. But if you take there being a living, distressed animal out of the equation and replace it with a consenting human adult in a fursuit, there are no moral considerations. Ergo, even the most perverted and depraved furries are doing nothing wrong.

But unfortunately, infantile deontology pervades in our society. In a rational, consequentialist world, nobody would bother furries.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

[Serloin]

Used to be an anti-fur when I was younger (since left them and become much more tolerant, similar to the guy above me as in i dont care) so I know why they mostly did it. Main arguments were that most, if not all even though that isn't true, are either zoophiles or pedos. Some argued they were both. As such, they were viewed as creeps and/or weirdos. Thanks to the news only giving stories on bad things, most news from furries that could be easily found were about bad stuff so that didn't really help. The anti-furry community is still stupid and mostly 10 year olds though.

[New Westmore]

Used to be an anti-fur when I was younger (since left them and become much more tolerant, similar to the guy above me as in i dont care) so I know why they mostly did it. Main arguments were that most, if not all even though that isn't true, are either zoophiles or pedos. Some argued they were both. As such, they were viewed as creeps and/or weirdos. Thanks to the news only giving stories on bad things, most news from furries that could be easily found were about bad stuff so that didn't really help. The anti-furry community is still stupid and mostly 10 year olds though.

You said it. What is left of that degenerate movement today is mostly prepubescent children who have no idea what thty are taking about. It is evident in how they conduct themselves on the internet.

Advocating for violence against people is not cool. Especially if it is for other reason outside of "because they're weird."

[Nantoraka]

The ONLY thing that makes beastiality morally wrong is that it may inflict distress on an animal.

Don't forget about the fact that it physically hurts the animal, the disease transmission risks, an animal can't consent, and the fact that any zoophile is actively taking advantage of a position of power for the act.

You know, like rape.

And the issue of underlying mental issues that would be implied to be present for someone to genuinely consider doing the act with an animal.

There's also the novelty of fucking an animal in the first place.

I'm afraid to inform you that there's a bit more things wrong with beastiality than whether or not an animal "may" (retraced: will) be distressed.

[Hurdergaryp]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

True. Mind you, as an avid webcomic reader I've come across some of the spicier series, to put it mildly. Now that is all drawn art, but it is sometimes amazing how creative things can become when the fictional universe is of the furry kind. And before people judge me to be a deviant (which I am, but for other reasons), do keep in mind that we all grew up with furry fictional universes, thanks to the Disney Corporation, the Warner Brothers and Hanna-Barbera. Humanoid animals go back a long time. Just look at the gods of ancient Egypt, for example.

[CtarlCtarl]

Mainly because most people have a misunderstanding about what it means to be a furry. The blame for this, from what I've been told, can be attributed to some articles and stories about furries back in the day that were.... let's say less than flattering and the misperceptions continue today. The fact that the fur community is niche doesn't help. The stereotype I usually is that every furry is somebody who dressed up in fursuit, and that it's a wholly sexual thing and that they all have sex in fursuits or something like that. Now, are there furries who dress up in fursuits? Of course. Are there some fursuiters who do sexual things in their suits? Yes, but that isn't everyone in the community and even if it was, it's really nobody's business but their own. Then there are the more insulting accusations, like that all furries are zoophiles. The logic for that is pretty faulty; they seem to think stuff like NSFW drawings of anthromorphs somehow related to an interest in animals even though such drawings are focused on them doing very human things and having human emotions. Even the whole stereotype of furries wanting to live as an animal is not universal

The fact is that at it's core being a furry just means you like anthromorphized characters; drawing them, collecting art of them, watching shows with them, etc. You might have a fursona (that is, you imagining yourself as an anthromorph) that you like to draw. Everything else that might come with the community is a variable.

Of course for most people who hate on them, it's because they perceive them as"weird" and for some people, weirdness justifies hatred.

[High Earth]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

Agreed. It’s best to just ignore it.

[Stratonesia]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

I have to agree with this one. Those NSFW artworks sicken me. They give furries a bad name.

[Rusozak]

Honestly I believe these people are just homophobes and transphobes who gave up on bullying LGBTQ groups because we as a society have (thankfully) made an effort to ostracize those with homophobic and transphobic beliefs. Since then they have discovered that furries are an easier target for them to spew out their vitriol.

I think a lot of it is just this. Just like the "humanity first" types that go full 40k on the xenophobia in any sci-fi setting. Unsurprisingly, there tends to be a lot of overlap between the two.

[Adharcaili]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

I have to agree with this one. Those NSFW artworks sicken me. They give furries a bad name.

It's another case of a few loud ones giving the entire group a bad rap. Like the weebs who are addicted to anime ruining anime for someone who might just want to casually watch.

[CtarlCtarl]

I don’t mind furries (or rather, I don’t give a fuck), but the erotic media that has come from furries can be disturbing as all hell. But all I have to do is block it out. Live and let live.

I'm tempted to ask what you've seen, but I get the feeling it would be a bad idea.

[Reploid Productions]

Honestly I believe these people are just homophobes and transphobes who gave up on bullying LGBTQ groups because we as a society have (thankfully) made an effort to ostracize those with homophobic and transphobic beliefs. Since then they have discovered that furries are an easier target for them to spew out their vitriol.

I think a lot of it is just this. Just like the "humanity first" types that go full 40k on the xenophobia in any sci-fi setting. Unsurprisingly, there tends to be a lot of overlap between the two.

Not to mention that there are a LOT of LGBTQ+ folks in furry fandom; so attacking furries is by proxy a more "socially acceptable" way to attack LGBTQ+ folks. Why are there so many LGBTQ+ folks in furry fandom? No idea; I imagine there's a solid sociology grad student's thesis to be had there, but I suspect it probably boils down to "using fursonas is a 'safer' way to express/explore LGBTQ+ identity without being outed as such in the rest of their non-fur lives where they may be at considerable risk of very real harm if they were outed."

As for furry fandom's reputation for horny media? EVERY fandom has got its small and sometimes very noisy subset of totally over-the-top fans who create really kinky or really disturbing erotica or just otherwise take their fanaticism waaaaay too fucking far. Every. Fandom. That ain't unique to the furries, you can find equally disturbing stuff in everything from furry fandom to hentai fandoms to Marvel to Harry Potter to My Little Pony to Barney the Dinosaur to the freakin' Bible. (The Bible section on FFN is... something alright. The summary tagline about "Jesus, Judas, and a four-legged friend" will haunt me to the end of time.)

[Foxyshire]

Not to mention that there are a LOT of LGBTQ+ folks in furry fandom; so attacking furries is by proxy a more "socially acceptable" way to attack LGBTQ+ folks. Why are there so many LGBTQ+ folks in furry fandom? No idea; I imagine there's a solid sociology grad student's thesis to be had there, but I suspect it probably boils down to "using fursonas is a 'safer' way to express/explore LGBTQ+ identity without being outed as such in the rest of their non-fur lives where they may be at considerable risk of very real harm if they were outed."

As for furry fandom's reputation for horny media? EVERY fandom has got its small and sometimes very noisy subset of totally over-the-top fans who create really kinky or really disturbing erotica or just otherwise take their fanaticism waaaaay too fucking far. Every. Fandom. That ain't unique to the furries, you can find equally disturbing stuff in everything from furry fandom to hentai fandoms to Marvel to Harry Potter to My Little Pony to Barney the Dinosaur to the freakin' Bible. (The Bible section on FFN is... something alright. The summary tagline about "Jesus, Judas, and a four-legged friend" will haunt me to the end of time.)

Yeah, I even seen art of sexy anthro tyranids in Warhammer 40k communities before.

Humorously ironic imo

[Cyptopir]

Yeah, I even seen art of sexy anthro tyranids in Warhammer 40k communities before.

Humorously ironic imo

Ex. The-Tyranids

[Foxyshire]

Yeah, I even seen art of sexy anthro tyranids in Warhammer 40k communities before.

Humorously ironic imo

Ex. The-Tyranids

Oh my fucking god, so adorable, I love it.