Terror attack in Moscow at concert venue

[Free Stalliongrad]

I think so far, the Russian police have been handling the investigation of this case with the utmost of professionalism (focusing on the evidence and keeping all possibilities open). It really shows that when the country is attacked, the people will find it in them to stand together.

It is always a sign of professionalism to beat suspects when they are in handcuffs and not when they are committing the crime.

[Infected Mushroom]

I don't condone the use of torture and was not made aware of the entire situation at the time of the previous post.

These particular facts have escaped my brief perusal of the facts surrounding the attack as of the time of the previous post (I have not read or heard about them until now):

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/2 ... ert-attack

Hence the previous post about the "professionalism" was directed at the impressive extent to which Russian authorities are open-minded about the possibility of a link exceeding a simple ISIS operation (that it could be in some way connected to other state and non-state actors). Another law enforcement agency could have looked at the facts and concluded "Yes, it's ISIS, case closed," but the Russians are acutely aware that this could be part of a wider conspiracy and that takes foresight. They were also able to speedily apprehend the suspects before more damage could have been inflicted against innocents.

In light of the videos currently circulating about the possible use of torture and the allegations made by various media organisations that "Russian security forces" have tortured the suspects, I'm going to qualify and withdraw the previous comment made in the previous post to the extent that it can be done. If it turns out that the use of torture was conducted, then the investigation cannot be said to have been done in a completely proper way.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I think so far, the Russian police have been handling the investigation of this case with the utmost of professionalism (focusing on the evidence and keeping all possibilities open). It really shows that when the country is attacked, the people will find it in them to stand together.

It is always a sign of professionalism to beat suspects when they are in handcuffs and not when they are committing the crime.

They didn't merely beat the "suspects" the fsb nabbed off the street because they didn't look russian enough.
they handed them over to neonazi fuckers who then proceeded to take electrodes to testicles, knives to ears and then blinded one guy

[Turenia]

It is always a sign of professionalism to beat suspects when they are in handcuffs and not when they are committing the crime.

They didn't merely beat the "suspects" the fsb nabbed off the street because they didn't look russian enough.
they handed them over to neonazi fuckers who then proceeded to take electrodes to testicles, knives to ears and then blinded one guy

Is there any evidence of that?

I mean, i want to agree with that, because it's exactly the kind of thing that Russians would do. But, from what I've seen, the arrested suspects look like the guys that did it.

[The Apollonian Systems]

I think so far, the Russian police have been handling the investigation of this case with the utmost of professionalism (focusing on the evidence and keeping all possibilities open). It really shows that when the country is attacked, the people will find it in them to stand together.

You’re joking right?

Ah what am I asking, of course you aren’t.

[The Apollonian Systems]

They didn't merely beat the "suspects" the fsb nabbed off the street because they didn't look russian enough.
they handed them over to neonazi fuckers who then proceeded to take electrodes to testicles, knives to ears and then blinded one guy

Is there any evidence of that?

I mean, i want to agree with that, because it's exactly the kind of thing that Russians would do. But, from what I've seen, the arrested suspects look like the guys that did it.

We have evidence for the torture, as for if the guys are actually the terrorists or not we don’t know.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I think so far, the Russian police have been handling the investigation of this case with the utmost of professionalism (focusing on the evidence and keeping all possibilities open). It really shows that when the country is attacked, the people will find it in them to stand together.

If this was the US and the suspects African Americans, I wonder if you would be larping the same tune as you are now.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

There are still dozens of people unaccounted for from the attack, relatives have no idea where they are or whether they are still alive. Top police work.

[Paddy O Fernature]

There are still dozens of people unaccounted for from the attack, relatives have no idea where they are or whether they are still alive. Top police work.

Comrade Civilian should be thanking the FSB that said people are just simply missing and not statistical collateral damage from the latest Spetsnaz security sweep.

Glory be to Russia, truly a political movement to look up too and want to copy.........

[The Apollonian Systems]

There are still dozens of people unaccounted for from the attack, relatives have no idea where they are or whether they are still alive. Top police work.

Comrade Civilian should be thanking the FSB that said people are just simply missing and not statistical collateral damage from the latest Spetsnaz security sweep.

Glory be to Russia, truly a political movement to look up too and want to copy.........

Increasingly they’re making the Mexican government look competent.

[Farnhamia]

https://tass.com/politics/1765845

I'm used to the Chinese hiring incompetent quarter-wits for its propaganda department, but now the Russians? Goodness gracious me.

*** 7 day ban for flaming ***

[Paddy O Fernature]

Comrade Civilian should be thanking the FSB that said people are just simply missing and not statistical collateral damage from the latest Spetsnaz security sweep.

Glory be to Russia, truly a political movement to look up too and want to copy.........

Increasingly they’re making the Mexican government look competent.

Why does this sound like a tourism add in the making for Mexico?

[Stellar Colonies]

George Galloway accuses UK of being involved in Moscow terror attack

Electing this guy was a good idea, wasn't it Rochdale?

[Saint Kanye]

Increasingly they’re making the Mexican government look competent.

Why does this sound like a tourism add in the making for Mexico?

Come down to Mexico: At least we're not Russia!

Those poor people tho

(I don't hate the common Russian, much like I don't hate the common Israelite or Palestinian, most of them prolly oppose the war their government is getting into, and hate how it makes them as a whole look bad)

[Khardsland]

Electing this guy was a good idea, wasn't it Rochdale?

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Of course. Let's just hope he doesn't fall down the stairs or shoot himself in the back of his head twice. It just seems to happen to every single anti-imperialist politician in the Imperial Core.

[Res Publica Solaris]

Electing this guy was a good idea, wasn't it Rochdale?

Of course. Let's just hope he doesn't fall down the stairs or shoot himself in the back of his head twice. It just seems to happen to every single anti-imperialist politician in the Imperial Core.

When was the last time that happened?

[Turenia]

Of course. Let's just hope he doesn't fall down the stairs or shoot himself in the back of his head twice. It just seems to happen to every single anti-imperialist politician in the Imperial Core.

Ah, yes - the UK government, well known for brazenly assassinating its domestic political rivals.

[The Apollonian Systems]

Electing this guy was a good idea, wasn't it Rochdale?

Of course. Let's just hope he doesn't fall down the stairs or shoot himself in the back of his head twice. It just seems to happen to every single anti-imperialist politician in the Imperial Core.[/quote]
Or fall out of a window or drink poisoned tea or get shot with a radioactive dart by FSB agents…

And Russian supporters are hardly anti-imperialist so he doesn’t have anything to fear.

[Moloto Japan]

“I think ISIS and ISIL is operated by the US [...]”
Bullshit.

Why the fuck would they fund/operate ISIS and ISIL when the US (almost) obliterated ISIS. US wouldn't fund ISIS just to attack US and other forces. US wouldn't just fund ISIS to attack the Philippines.

Again, we're getting off topic here, so let me get back on the tracks.

Russia has been through this before, around the time of the Chechen wars. I wouldn't be surprised if this was staged or if the attack was real.

They might cover it up, but where do they get the fucking funds?

[Oceasia]

Iran alerted Russia to security threat before Moscow attack

DUBAI, April 1 (Reuters) - Iran tipped off Russia about the possibility of a major "terrorist operation" on its soil ahead of the concert hall massacre near Moscow last month, three sources familiar with the matter said.
In the deadliest attack inside Russia in 20 years, gunmen opened fire with automatic weapons at concertgoers on March 22 at the Crocus City Hall, killing at least 144 people in violence claimed by the Islamic State militant group.
The United States had also warned Russia in advance of a likely militant Islamist attack but Moscow, deeply distrustful of Washington's intentions, played down that intelligence.
It is harder, however, for Russia to dismiss intelligence from diplomatic ally Iran on the attack, which has also raised questions over the effectiveness of Russian security services. Moscow and Tehran, both under Western sanctions, have deepened military and other cooperation during the two-year Ukraine war.
"Days before the attack in Russia, Tehran shared information with Moscow about a possible big terrorist attack inside Russia that was acquired during interrogations of those arrested in connection with deadly bombings in Iran," one of the sources told Reuters.
Iran arrested 35 people in January, including a commander of Islamic State's Afghanistan-based branch ISIS-Khorasan (ISIS-K), who it said were linked to twin bombings on Jan. 3 in the city of Kerman that killed nearly 100 people.
Islamic State claimed responsibility for the Iran blasts, the bloodiest since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. U.S. intelligence sources said ISIS-K had carried out both the Jan. 3 attacks in Iran and the March 22 shootings in Moscow.
Islamic State once occupied large swathes of Iraq and Syria, imposing a reign of terror and inspiring lone wolf attacks in Western countries, but was declared territorially defeated in 2017.
However ISIS-K, one of its most fearsome branches, has raised the group's profile again with large-scale bloodshed.
ISIS-K, named after an old term for a region that encompassed parts of Iran, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, emerged in eastern Afghanistan in late 2014 and quickly established a reputation for extreme brutality.

'SIGNIFICANT OPERATION'
A second source, who also requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the issue, said the information Tehran provided to Moscow about an impending attack had lacked specific details regarding timing and the exact target.
"They (the members of ISIS-K) were instructed to prepare for a significant operation in Russia... One of the terrorists (arrested in Iran) said some members of the group had already travelled to Russia," the second source said.
A third source, a senior security official, said: "As Iran has been a victim of terror attacks for years, Iranian authorities fulfilled their obligation to alert Moscow based on information acquired from those arrested terrorists."
Asked about the Reuters report, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Monday: "I do not know anything about this."
Iran's foreign ministry did not reply to a request for comment on this story. The White House had no comment on the matter.
A source familiar with the U.S. intelligence on an impending attack in Russia said it was based on interceptions of "chatter" among ISIS-K militants.
Challenging the U.S. assertions, Russia has said it believes Ukraine was linked to the attack, without providing evidence. Kyiv has strongly denied the assertion.

TAJIK NATIONALS
The attacks in Kerman and near Moscow both involved Tajik nationals. ISIS-K has aggressively recruited from the impoverished former Soviet republic of Tajikistan, security experts say.
Sources said Iran had discussed its security concerns with Tajikistan. A diplomatic source in Tajikistan confirmed that Tehran had recently discussed with Dushanbe the issue of increased involvement of ethnic Tajiks in militant activities.
Islamic State harbours a virulent hatred for Shi'ites -- Iran's dominant sect and also the target of its affiliate's attacks in Afghanistan. The hardline Sunni Muslim group views Shi'ites as apostates.
In 2022 Islamic State claimed responsibility for a deadly attack on a Shi'ite shrine in Iran that killed 13 people. Tehran identified the attacker as a Tajik national.
Earlier attacks claimed by Islamic State include twin bombings in 2017 that targeted Iran's parliament and the tomb of the Islamic Republic's founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Iran alerted Russia to security threat before Moscow attack

So
Is the current moskowite narrative that the IRGC sicc'd ISIS on russia? <.<

[Tarsonis]

Iran alerted Russia to security threat before Moscow attack

So
Is the current moskowite narrative that the IRGC sicc'd ISIS on russia? <.<

Yup and they conspired with Ukraine to "clear a path" in the ...Russian lines...somehow, but glorious FSB best intelligence service in the world knew the details of their plan and escape routs and caught them mere hours after their attack....instead of stopping the attack....

Yep makes sense

[The Apollonian Systems]

So
Is the current moskowite narrative that the IRGC sicc'd ISIS on russia? <.<

Yup and they conspired with Ukraine to "clear a path" in the ...Russian lines...somehow, but glorious FSB best intelligence service in the world knew the details of their plan and escape routs and caught them mere hours after their attack....instead of stopping the attack....

Yep makes sense

I mean you can’t really blame the FSB, the only experience they have is beating up and torturing unarmed civilians.

[Saperetia]

Summary of stuff (so far):

US: There's goning to be an attack
Iran: There's going to be an ISIS attack
Russia: There's not going to be an attack
There is an attack
US: We told you
Iran: We told you
Ukraine: We did not do it
ISIS: We did do it
Tajikistan: We did not do it
Belarus: Terrorists were on way to Belarus, we stopped them, great success!
Russia: ...damn Ukraine!

I wonder what turns this windy road will take.

[Tarsonis]

Summary of stuff (so far):

US: There's goning to be an attack
Iran: There's going to be an ISIS attack
Russia: There's not going to be an attack
There is an attack
US: We told you
Iran: We told you
Ukraine: We did not do it
ISIS: We did do it
Tajikistan: We did not do it
Belarus: Terrorists were on way to Belarus, we stopped them, great success!
Russia: ...damn Ukraine!

I wonder what turns this windy road will take.

If the willful ignorance from sycophants like IM and Khard is any sort of a barometer, the sky is the limit