Why do/should squatters have rights?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:00 pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ights.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... antes.html
In a now viral TikTok video, an illegal immigrant has suggested that because squatters have rights in all 50 US states, that it is fair game for illegal immigrants to invade US homes and later sell the house if the person with the deed or mortgage fails to have the resources or wherewithal to evict people who illegally break and enter into their home/property in a timely manner. With squatters often claiming ownership with fake leases or deeds that tie up the courts and drag on the process for years (if it is a blue state). Your home for most people, is supposed to be your castle or safe living space from the outside world and what is most commonly your biggest investment. With owners finding it more difficult to proactively remove or deter squatters, this dream is in jeopardy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTVvvgoIMQ0
Even TYT is seemingly admitting that what is going on with squatters rights laws in progressive jurisdictions is a load of BS. Is it perhaps possible that if illegal immigrants catch on to real estate laws that are overly permissive or generous to people that squat in houses that it will perpetuate a nation-wide squatting crisis/epidemic that will crash the housing market or send property values plummeting if deeds in general become perceived that they're no longer worth the paper they're written on if the rights it is supposed to confer to individuals doesn't enjoy enough protection/enforcement under the legal system? With plenty of state/local governments like those in California or New York trying to figure out ways to get illegal migrants into the US "free money" (something that US citizens and legal residents don't even get), what do you think of the current situation? Do you see it getting any worse or better?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/squatters-bo ... sly-passed
In Florida for example, there was been legislation moving towards taking away squatter's rights and giving more protections to real estate owners but falling short of invalidating "adverse possession" altogether, which is when a person happens to be able to occupy a house, make improvements and pay taxes on it, but take ownership of the entire property if the person with the deed fails to protect/enforce their rights to the property/land like when some company/individual fails to enforce their copyright on a work they produced. My take is that it probably happened to one or two legislators and only then did they recognize the problem and felt any need to act.
Has squatting ever happened to you or have you (legally) taken someone else's property before? Where do you stand on the issue, who do you believe is morally in the right? What are the logistics of how real estate should work in your view? Discuss. Frankly, I find "adverse possession" as a concept to be utterly ridiculous, how can any property be considered "abandoned" in cases where the owner is current on their property taxes or hasn't let the property deteriorate enough as to be condemned?
Update: There is now rumor that the Venezuelan migrant influencer on TikTok that went viral and caused waves about this issue, is allegedly on the run as a fugitive from deportation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtK-ZO ... Kk&index=2
Update 2: In what is possibly a final update to this story, Leonel Moreno the migrant influencer from TikTok has been arrested. What do you suppose will happen to him? Deportation or detention? What should his fate be?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -tips.html
Update 3: Georgia is apparently following Florida's lead in changing their laws on real estate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qUOZW8WlA
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... antes.html
In a now viral TikTok video, an illegal immigrant has suggested that because squatters have rights in all 50 US states, that it is fair game for illegal immigrants to invade US homes and later sell the house if the person with the deed or mortgage fails to have the resources or wherewithal to evict people who illegally break and enter into their home/property in a timely manner. With squatters often claiming ownership with fake leases or deeds that tie up the courts and drag on the process for years (if it is a blue state). Your home for most people, is supposed to be your castle or safe living space from the outside world and what is most commonly your biggest investment. With owners finding it more difficult to proactively remove or deter squatters, this dream is in jeopardy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTVvvgoIMQ0
Even TYT is seemingly admitting that what is going on with squatters rights laws in progressive jurisdictions is a load of BS. Is it perhaps possible that if illegal immigrants catch on to real estate laws that are overly permissive or generous to people that squat in houses that it will perpetuate a nation-wide squatting crisis/epidemic that will crash the housing market or send property values plummeting if deeds in general become perceived that they're no longer worth the paper they're written on if the rights it is supposed to confer to individuals doesn't enjoy enough protection/enforcement under the legal system? With plenty of state/local governments like those in California or New York trying to figure out ways to get illegal migrants into the US "free money" (something that US citizens and legal residents don't even get), what do you think of the current situation? Do you see it getting any worse or better?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/squatters-bo ... sly-passed
In Florida for example, there was been legislation moving towards taking away squatter's rights and giving more protections to real estate owners but falling short of invalidating "adverse possession" altogether, which is when a person happens to be able to occupy a house, make improvements and pay taxes on it, but take ownership of the entire property if the person with the deed fails to protect/enforce their rights to the property/land like when some company/individual fails to enforce their copyright on a work they produced. My take is that it probably happened to one or two legislators and only then did they recognize the problem and felt any need to act.
Has squatting ever happened to you or have you (legally) taken someone else's property before? Where do you stand on the issue, who do you believe is morally in the right? What are the logistics of how real estate should work in your view? Discuss. Frankly, I find "adverse possession" as a concept to be utterly ridiculous, how can any property be considered "abandoned" in cases where the owner is current on their property taxes or hasn't let the property deteriorate enough as to be condemned?
Update: There is now rumor that the Venezuelan migrant influencer on TikTok that went viral and caused waves about this issue, is allegedly on the run as a fugitive from deportation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtK-ZO ... Kk&index=2
Update 2: In what is possibly a final update to this story, Leonel Moreno the migrant influencer from TikTok has been arrested. What do you suppose will happen to him? Deportation or detention? What should his fate be?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -tips.html
Update 3: Georgia is apparently following Florida's lead in changing their laws on real estate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4qUOZW8WlA