American Politics: Campus Crushed

[Sutalia]

I would suggest you just stay away from partisan politics lol. I religiously do that and I generally recently just ignore politics.

Why bother sharing that in a thread that focuses on partisan politics?

[Zurkerx]

I genuinely think this is one of the biggest things that will sink Biden, so many young people are going to stay home or vote for someone else over this. Biden has been wishy-washy and tried to play the middle ground here and that just hasn't worked, he's managed to piss off everyone.

He does seem to be getting the worst of both worlds.

He is though I suspect he can stop the bleeding and get some of those voters back. Whether it will be enough though remains to be seen - and whether come election day will this be their number one priority. But I do think Biden is starting to pick the Gaza side, well slowly that is. It's probably too late though.

[Kalturkara]

Washington Post article claims that the Biden administration has known from the outset that Israel has been committing war crimes and has never had any clear goal in this war, and despite this unconditionally supported Israel, both rhetorically and materially.


Sure does seem like a bad move on Biden's part to send weapons to people he knew were using those weapons to kill civilians. Not a great re-election strategy.

I genuinely think this is one of the biggest things that will sink Biden, so many young people are going to stay home or vote for someone else over this. Biden has been wishy-washy and tried to play the middle ground here and that just hasn't worked, he's managed to piss off everyone.

It really depends by how much polarization is going to force them to vote claiming that it’s a shitty option but still the best option, I mean everyone knows Kennedy is not going to win, and if the democratic-Republican divide is still strong enough, Biden, while certainly is gonna lose some voters especially from the islamic community, it still might not be as disastrous as we might think for his reelection.

[Repreteop]

I would suggest you just stay away from partisan politics lol. I religiously do that and I generally recently just ignore politics.

Why bother sharing that in a thread that focuses on partisan politics?

Because I gave you my opinion on American politics, which is the whole purpose of this thread.

[NovaFaustia]

What is the most overrated president?

Biden

[Great Bulgarian Kingdom]

What is the most overrated president?

Biden

Nobody likes Biden.

[Zurkerx]

I genuinely think this is one of the biggest things that will sink Biden, so many young people are going to stay home or vote for someone else over this. Biden has been wishy-washy and tried to play the middle ground here and that just hasn't worked, he's managed to piss off everyone.

It really depends by how much polarization is going to force them to vote claiming that it’s a shitty option but still the best option, I mean everyone knows Kennedy is not going to win, and if the democratic-Republican divide is still strong enough, Biden, while certainly is gonna lose some voters especially from the islamic community, it still might not be as disastrous as we might think for his reelection.

That's also true too but that will depend if he can get those young voters back. Arab voters it seems he has loss (though they won't vote for Trump and he can get some of them back), but getting more young people to turn out - beat the abortion and Pro-Democracy message, could be effective. Focusing on Student Loans could also be effective too.

The issue will be is whether those voters are going to feel motivated.

[Zurkerx]

After temporarily putting the law on hold, The Supreme Court rejected Biden's request to block the Texas migrant law. The law, known as SB 4, allows Texas law enforcement officers to arrest people suspected of entering the United States illegally.

[Stellar Colonies]

After temporarily putting the law on hold, The Supreme Court rejected Biden's request to block the Texas migrant law. The law, known as SB 4, allows Texas law enforcement officers to arrest people suspected of entering the United States illegally.

I wonder how much weight that "suspected" will be bearing.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

What makes you think Revolutionary socialism will work?

It’s only been attempted like how many times now, and every single one ends up with bougie class claiming to represent the workers, and then abuse their power.

If you want a revolution, why not just… Not reinstate a govt? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MyvwacFNP ... VudA%3D%3D

While I think anarchism is even more Utopian than communism, I would rather live in an anarchist society than a Communist society

Who's gonna tell him a communist society is stateless?

Yeah I know that. I just don’t wanna share shit.

[Stellar Colonies]

Who's gonna tell him a communist society is stateless?

Yeah I know that. I just don’t wanna share shit.

Unless your shit is your primary income as a means of producing something, you may not have much to fear.

[HISPIDA]

Yeah I know that. I just don’t wanna share shit.

Unless your shit is your primary income as a means of producing something, you may not have much to fear.

but comrades, are personal toothbrushes not fascist?

[Valrifall]

Who's gonna tell him a communist society is stateless?

Yeah I know that. I just don’t wanna share shit.

Haha, nice one.

Now hand over your toothbrush.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

Yeah I know that. I just don’t wanna share shit.

Unless your shit is your primary income as a means of producing something, you may not have much to fear.

Naw fuck that

If I had to live in a stateless society I would rather it be like Nomadic cowboys and shit.

[Ifreann]

Unless your shit is your primary income as a means of producing something, you may not have much to fear.

but comrades, are personal toothbrushes not fascist?

In the glorious communist future, every commune will have one big toothbrush and everyone will line up cheek-to-cheek and have their teeth brushed all together.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

but comrades, are personal toothbrushes not fascist?

In the glorious communist future, every commune will have one big toothbrush and everyone will line up cheek-to-cheek and have their teeth brushed all together.

Me when I conquer England:

[American Legionaries]

I'll never understand why commies are so obsessed with toothbrushes...

[Deblar]

but comrades, are personal toothbrushes not fascist?

In the glorious communist future, every commune will have one big toothbrush and everyone will line up cheek-to-cheek and have their teeth brushed all together.

Every good proletariat knows to practice good oral hygiene, for the worker is nothing without a healthy set of teeth with which to tear the bourgeoisie to shreds

[Ifreann]

I'll never understand why commies are so obsessed with toothbrushes...

Got to have good, strong teeth if we're going to eat the rich.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

I'll never understand why commies are so obsessed with toothbrushes...

Communism can be described in one sentence: “Sharing is care but taken to the extreme.”

One can extrapolate from that concept and apply it to things that you really shouldn’t share. Like your toothbrush or your underwear

[American Legionaries]

I'll never understand why commies are so obsessed with toothbrushes...

Got to have good, strong teeth if we're going to eat the rich.

Why worry about what isn't going to happen?

[The Rich Port]

After temporarily putting the law on hold, The Supreme Court rejected Biden's request to block the Texas migrant law. The law, known as SB 4, allows Texas law enforcement officers to arrest people suspected of entering the United States illegally.

Unlawful and unnecessary search and seizure what's that sounds liberal.

[Ifreann]

Got to have good, strong teeth if we're going to eat the rich.

Why worry about what isn't going to happen?

It's good to be prepared, just in case.

[Deblar]

Got to have good, strong teeth if we're going to eat the rich.

Why worry about what isn't going to happen?

Careful; you might make it happen with an attitude like that

[Torisakia]

I'm not saying you have to endlessly chug from the bottomless well of Content from mainstream cable, watching every meandering daytime panel of pundits squawking at each other or listening religiously to every episode of every hack podcast. I'm saying partisan sources are something you should pay some cursory attention to to pick up on significant movement, trends, or revealing moments.

I paid enough attention to partisan sources between 2016-2023. I've seen all I've needed to. In fact, most of what the partisan sources are saying today they were also saying, verbatim, in 2020 and 2016. If you've seen it once you've seen it all. I'm not going to go to Stormfront or Infowars just to get an "idea" of what "narratives" they're supporting, because I already know. It's almost as if right-wing and left-wing ideological bullshit was force-fed to me (and the American people) over the past 10 years.

Nor do I think your voting preferences should lead you to massively restrict your view of the media landscape: not only should you be consuming a bit of "Democrat media" and "Republican media" just to keep abreast of what's going on with them, there's a vast world of content from political cliques or tendencies within each party that can be very revealing of intellectual currents that are shaping outlooks of different elite factions within the US.

Again I've already seen enough of the partisan media over the past 8 years to know that it's not something I want to entertain. Plus that's just going to keep enabling these political "intellectuals" to spew their twisted rhetoric which in reality is just to further sow social division and keep the American population in line.

You don't have to bail on 538 if you find it informative and easy to understand, but you shouldn't make yourself dependent on sources from a single political tendency, and you especially shouldn't obscure this ideological subscription by drinking their Kool-Aid about their "neutrality" or "independence."

I would argue that sites like 538 and Ballotpedia are "neutral" when compared to the other options of CNN, Fox, OANN, Newsmax, HipsterConspiracyBullshit.com, and the like. I personally could not care less about how what Donald Trump ate for breakfast on May 8th, 2018 is impacting the underwater basket-weaving industry or how the shit Joe Biden took 20 years ago has completely crashed the stock market and is plunging the world into another Great Depression as we speak. Not only is it fucking stupid, it provides me with absolutely no viable information about the candidates or anything worthwhile in the political world.

I'm beginning to think you just don't like the fact that I'm willingly consuming media that isn't far-leaning to a certain political ideology. There's a reason it's called a political spectrum.

Everyone has an editorial and ideological line! Anyone telling you they don't is either lying to themselves or trying to sell you something. Have a poke around Dissent and First Things, take a peek at what's going on on Breitbart or Jacobin, check up on what narratives are getting traction and airtime on liberal and conservative TV networks

hate-follow a few people on YouTube and TikTok and Twitter just to see what they're trying to present or focus on and how they're doing it, etc. etc.

Yes let me, a 26 year old man, hate-follow some stupid fucking "influencer" (who likely don't even vote) just to see what absolute braindead idiotic takes they have on the current political climate of the country. Social media is the absolute last place anyone should get their news or political influences from. Hell I would much rather entertain what a Klansman had to say before I would listen to a word out of one of these "influencers" mouths.

It's much the same rule as one should apply to examining news from overseas-- there's a number of countries whose state media or private media outlets associated with specific elite factions I find untrustworthy or whose political bosses I find deeply odious, but it's still worthwhile to monitor what they're presenting and how to get a more complete picture of what's going on than I can necessarily get from the Western press alone.

Ah yes, let me go consume some news from mainland China that's not at all affiliated with the state and presents everything in a fair light and never lies about anything. Glory to the People's Republic! Dongfeng Wanli! Next I suppose you'll want me to listen to what a European, who has never even set foot in the USA, has to say about the current political situation of the country. If that's the case then I really hope I can reciprocate the same thing when their election come up.

Trying to keep yourself informed when living in an information battlefield, the struggle of any contemporary media consumer, requires taking in as complete a view of the battlespace and developments within it as you can.

That sounds more like a personal problem on a case-by-case basis than a problem overall. Some people don't have an issue with branching out and finding other political media to consume to become more informed. Others can't pry themselves away from the echo chambers. And given how the political climate in the US has been virtually unchanged in the last 8 years, I see absolutely no point in going to left-wing or right-wing media and trying to "learn" what it is they're campaigning on. Especially if I've already said, numerous times, that I'm not voting Democrat or Republican. That would be like you being in the market for a new car but researching information about boats.