American Politics: Campus Crushed

[Poliski]

Could 2024 be an election were democrats lose the popular vote and win the electoral college.

It's only possible for the Republicans to win the election without the popular vote because of how spread out they are. However, the Democrats may lose the popular vote for once just because of how man people they have pissed off by supporting a nation that is bombing and starving civilians, not campaigning at all and instead just trying to ban Trump from running, and attempting to ban Tic ToK.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

What is the most overrated president?

[Untecna]

Damn, no first page for me.

Could 2024 be an election were democrats lose the popular vote and win the electoral college.

It's only possible for the Republicans to win the election without the popular vote because of how spread out they are. However, the Democrats may lose the popular vote for once just because of how man people they have pissed off by supporting a nation that is bombing and starving civilians, not campaigning at all and instead just trying to ban Trump from running, and attempting to ban Tic ToK.

I doubt it.

While some policy decisions have been net negatives for younger voters through Biden's administration (and particularly in the last 6+ months), you're comparing apples to oranges.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

What is the most overrated president?

Millard Fillmore.

[Untecna]

What is the most overrated president?

Millard Fillmore.

Tell me, who, out of the people who even remember our 13th President, actually likes Millard Fillmore?

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

What is the most overrated president?

Millard Fillmore.

I would say reagan

[Great Bulgarian Kingdom]

What is the most overrated president?

Maybe Woodrow Wilson?

[HISPIDA]

What is the most overrated president?

either reagan or lincoln.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

What is the most overrated president?

either reagan or lincoln.

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

[Untecna]

either reagan or lincoln.

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

"Overrated" does not necessarily mean "bad".

Is Taylor Swift a decent singer? Sure. Is she overrated? Absolutely.

[Zurkerx]

Not sure if this was mentioned in the other thread, but Senator Bernie Sanders Proposed a bill Reducing Americans’ Workweek to 32 Hours. It will likely not pass but it's something that is growing in popularity:

Senator Bernie Sanders this week unveiled legislation to reduce the standard workweek in the United States from 40 hours to 32, without a reduction in pay, saying Americans are working longer hours for less pay despite advances in technology and productivity.

The law, if passed, would pare down the workweek over a four-year period, lowering the threshold at which workers would be eligible to receive overtime pay. The 40-hour workweek has stood as the standard in the United States since it became enshrined in federal law in 1940.

In a hearing on Thursday before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on the proposed law, Mr. Sanders, independent of Vermont, said profits from boosts in productivity over the decades had been reaped only by corporate leaders, and not shared with workers.

“The sad reality is that Americans now work more hours than the people of any other wealthy nation,” he said, citing statistics that workers in the United States on average work for hundreds of hours longer each year than their counterparts in Japan, Britain and Germany.

Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louisiana, said at the hearing that such a reduction would hurt employers, ship jobs overseas and cause spikes in consumer prices.

“It would threaten millions of small businesses operating on a razor-thin margin because they are unable to find enough workers,” Mr. Cassidy said.

Mr. Sanders is far from the first to propose the idea, which has been floated by Richard Nixon, pitched by autoworkers and experimented with by companies including Shake Shack, Kickstarter and Unilever’s New Zealand unit.

But the concept has gathered steam in recent years, as the Covid-19 pandemic has caused fundamental shifts in work culture and reset expectations about employment. Representative Mark Takano, Democrat of California, introduced the 32-Hour Workweek Act in the House in 2021, and has reintroduced it as a companion bill to the one sponsored by Mr. Sanders in the Senate.

In proposing the legislation, Mr. Sanders cited a trial conducted by 61 companies in Britain in 2022, in which most of the companies that went down to a four-day workweek saw that revenues and productivity remained steady, while attrition dropped significantly. The study was conducted by a nonprofit, 4 Day Week Global, with researchers at Cambridge University, Boston College and a think tank, Autonomy.

Juliet Schor, an economist at Boston College who was the lead researcher on the study, testified at Thursday’s hearing that 91 percent of the companies that switched to a four-day workweek had stuck with the new arrangement a year later.

“Participants tell us the new schedule is life-changing,” Ms. Schor told senators.

Critics, including some who testified at this week’s hearing, say many of the pilot programs narrowly focus on the types of companies that can afford the flexibility in work schedules, and disregard many companies with employees doing on hands-on work.

“There is no statistical evidence to merit a nationwide mandate of a 32-hour workweek,” said Liberty Vittert, a statistics professor at Washington University in St. Louis. “If it works for some companies in some sectors, that is great, but it cannot be applied to all sectors.”

[Ifreann]

Washington Post article claims that the Biden administration has known from the outset that Israel has been committing war crimes and has never had any clear goal in this war, and despite this unconditionally supported Israel, both rhetorically and materially.

On Oct. 27, three weeks into Israel’s punishing counterattack in Gaza, top Biden officials privately told a small group assembled at the White House what they would not say in public: Israel was regularly bombing buildings without solid intelligence that they were legitimate military targets.

The group — top foreign policy officials from the Biden administration and previous ones — also discussed the apparent lack of an Israeli plan for defeating Hamas despite repeated U.S. prodding, according to three people familiar with the meeting, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private exchange.

“We never had a clear sense that the Israelis had a definable and achievable military objective,” said one of those familiar with the meeting. “From the very beginning, there’s been a sense of us not knowing how the Israelis were going to do what they said they were going to do.”

Sure does seem like a bad move on Biden's part to send weapons to people he knew were using those weapons to kill civilians. Not a great re-election strategy.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

Not sure if this was mentioned in the other thread, but Senator Bernie Sanders Proposed a bill Reducing Americans’ Workweek to 32 Hours. It will likely not pass but it's something that is growing in popularity:

Senator Bernie Sanders this week unveiled legislation to reduce the standard workweek in the United States from 40 hours to 32, without a reduction in pay, saying Americans are working longer hours for less pay despite advances in technology and productivity.

The law, if passed, would pare down the workweek over a four-year period, lowering the threshold at which workers would be eligible to receive overtime pay. The 40-hour workweek has stood as the standard in the United States since it became enshrined in federal law in 1940.

In a hearing on Thursday before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions on the proposed law, Mr. Sanders, independent of Vermont, said profits from boosts in productivity over the decades had been reaped only by corporate leaders, and not shared with workers.

“The sad reality is that Americans now work more hours than the people of any other wealthy nation,” he said, citing statistics that workers in the United States on average work for hundreds of hours longer each year than their counterparts in Japan, Britain and Germany.

Senator Bill Cassidy, Republican of Louisiana, said at the hearing that such a reduction would hurt employers, ship jobs overseas and cause spikes in consumer prices.

“It would threaten millions of small businesses operating on a razor-thin margin because they are unable to find enough workers,” Mr. Cassidy said.

Mr. Sanders is far from the first to propose the idea, which has been floated by Richard Nixon, pitched by autoworkers and experimented with by companies including Shake Shack, Kickstarter and Unilever’s New Zealand unit.

But the concept has gathered steam in recent years, as the Covid-19 pandemic has caused fundamental shifts in work culture and reset expectations about employment. Representative Mark Takano, Democrat of California, introduced the 32-Hour Workweek Act in the House in 2021, and has reintroduced it as a companion bill to the one sponsored by Mr. Sanders in the Senate.

In proposing the legislation, Mr. Sanders cited a trial conducted by 61 companies in Britain in 2022, in which most of the companies that went down to a four-day workweek saw that revenues and productivity remained steady, while attrition dropped significantly. The study was conducted by a nonprofit, 4 Day Week Global, with researchers at Cambridge University, Boston College and a think tank, Autonomy.

Juliet Schor, an economist at Boston College who was the lead researcher on the study, testified at Thursday’s hearing that 91 percent of the companies that switched to a four-day workweek had stuck with the new arrangement a year later.

“Participants tell us the new schedule is life-changing,” Ms. Schor told senators.

Critics, including some who testified at this week’s hearing, say many of the pilot programs narrowly focus on the types of companies that can afford the flexibility in work schedules, and disregard many companies with employees doing on hands-on work.

“There is no statistical evidence to merit a nationwide mandate of a 32-hour workweek,” said Liberty Vittert, a statistics professor at Washington University in St. Louis. “If it works for some companies in some sectors, that is great, but it cannot be applied to all sectors.”

Honestly 32 hours sounds nice but let’s be honest it won’t be practical. Even if you increase the wages the price of goods will just end up increasing.

[Poliski]

either reagan or lincoln.

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

Lincoln is absolutely one of the most overrated presidents. He only made the war (for the Union side, the confederacy's reason for the war was 100% slavery) about slavery once European powers started supporting the Confederacy after his general staff continually begged him to make the war about slavery because no one would deny a call to end slavery. Plus, he was only a moderate abolitionist and didn't free the slaves in the slave states that stayed in the Union. He also only got into power with a campaign of lies in which he tricked lower-class people into voting for him by tricking them into believing he would end the wage system (something he never had any intention of doing).

However, he wasn't (by US standards) a bad president but he is overrated.

[Untecna]

You know what is really funny about the people who think that continuing to count election results past Election Day is indicative of fraud?

If the election in question was rigged, results would appear quicker, not slower.

[HISPIDA]

either reagan or lincoln.

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

[Great Bulgarian Kingdom]

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

Lincoln is absolutely one of the most overrated presidents. He only made the war (for the Union side, the confederacy's reason for the war was 100% slavery) about slavery once European powers started supporting the Confederacy after his general staff continually begged him to make the war about slavery because no one would deny a call to end slavery. Plus, he was only a moderate abolitionist and didn't free the slaves in the slave states that stayed in the Union. He also only got into power with a campaign of lies in which he tricked lower-class people into voting for him by tricking them into believing he would end the wage system (something he never had any intention of doing).

However, he wasn't (by US standards) a bad president but he is overrated.

He attempted to get the border states to agree to compensated emancipation multiple times. And he had long stated his personal wish to abolish slavery before the Emancipation Proclamation. Also, he didn't sign it because "nobody would deny a call to end slavery", because many people in the border states and even in the free states were either pro-slavery or neutral on the issue, but specifically because Europeans wouldn't support a state upholding slavery. It makes sense, then, pragmatically, that you wouldn't free slaves (which would anger a non-insignificant part of your populace) unless there was a real possibility Europeans would get involved.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/19/media/tr ... index.html

Trump sues ABC News and George Stephanopoulos for defamation over Nancy Mace interview

[Hidrandia]

Bruh why Lincoln.

He freed the slaves and beat the rebels

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

Lincoln was trying to keep the northern southern states from succeding and joining the Union as states like Virginia would massively boost the confederate war effort. More upper states like deleware, maryland, and kentucky would of also massively helped the confederates. His goal intialy was to Maintain the Union.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

You know what is really funny about the people who think that continuing to count election results past Election Day is indicative of fraud?

If the election in question was rigged, results would appear quicker, not slower.

Not necessarily, because you cannot front load the whole process.
In a moderately advanced information society, the timing of your physical and IT apparatus coordinated with your media cycle gets you through the night, but the process of backing and covering your evidentiary trail in a large scale election takes more than a day.
Recounts are a great way to gain time and cover for cleaning up loose ends, and a sophisticated malefactor will usually blueprint one in their plan.

[San Lumen]

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

Lincoln was trying to keep the northern southern states from succeding and joining the Union as states like Virginia would massively boost the confederate war effort. More upper states like deleware, maryland, and kentucky would of also massively helped the confederates. His goal intialy was to Maintain the Union.

Maryland was key. If they joined the confederacy it would have been the end of the Union.

[HISPIDA]

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

Lincoln was trying to keep the northern southern states from succeding and joining the Union as states like Virginia would massively boost the confederate war effort. More upper states like deleware, maryland, and kentucky would of also massively helped the confederates. His goal intialy was to Maintain the Union.

who cares about maintaining the union when it was falling apart for 20 years by that point?

Lincoln was trying to keep the northern southern states from succeding and joining the Union as states like Virginia would massively boost the confederate war effort. More upper states like deleware, maryland, and kentucky would of also massively helped the confederates. His goal intialy was to Maintain the Union.

Maryland was key. If they joined the confederacy it would have been the end of the Union.

i doubt it. maybe the end of his political career in 1864, but mcclellan (if he was in the running) would've kept the war going and the confederacy still would've collapsed.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

Every human being walks with a black, and white hat at hand, and swaps them out as need, and desire conflict throughout the day.
No one is perfect, nor perfectible, and like our children, societies cannot be birthed fully formed.
They must be grown, developed and educated, like us, through years of influence by nature, nurture, and conscious choice, and like us, that growth does not stop until that society inevitably dies.

[Hidrandia]

Lincoln was trying to keep the northern southern states from succeding and joining the Union as states like Virginia would massively boost the confederate war effort. More upper states like deleware, maryland, and kentucky would of also massively helped the confederates. His goal intialy was to Maintain the Union.

who cares about maintaining the union when it was falling apart for 20 years by that point?

He couldnt just let the south succede. And abolition was not to popular in the Midwest.

[Juristonia]

he was also a racist hypocrite who completely bungled the war's first years and had a resounding tendency to buckle before slaveowners before the civil war kicked off. he wasn't even an abolitionist until the tailend of his career, and his 1860 campaign was built on broken promises and outright lies.

him booting out the confederacy and signing the emancipation proclamation were the only things that can be considered unequivocally "good" in his presidency, i think.

Every human being walks with a black, and white hat at hand, and swaps them out as need, and desire conflict throughout the day.
No one is perfect, nor perfectible, and like our children, societies cannot be birthed fully formed.
They must be grown, developed and educated, like us, through years of influence by nature, nurture, and conscious choice, and like us, that growth does not stop until that society inevitably dies.

Okay, Ghandi.