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What do you think about the Mosque?

I Live in the U.S- Bad Idea
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27%
I Live in the U.S- Good Idea
50
35%
I Don't Live in the U.S- Bad Idea
17
12%
I Don't Live in the U.S- Good Idea
25
18%
I Live in the U.S- No Clue (explain)
5
4%
I Don't Live in the U.S- No Clue (explain)
6
4%
 
Total votes : 142

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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue May 11, 2010 5:58 am

Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


I hear Al Queda is claiming credit for all those deaths. Can we now divert the anti-terrorist budget that currently prevents the whopping average of.. say.. 600 deaths/year to combating this ?
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Postby Tekania » Tue May 11, 2010 6:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Let's link ebil Moslems to food, clearly eating furthers their agenda... If we get the word out on this, it'll solve many of our present issues within a few months... And if we link them to water consumption, it'll go away even quicker...
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 11, 2010 6:00 am

Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

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Islamic Hazarastan
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Tue May 11, 2010 6:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

Just wait till they start slaughtering animals in the Halal way.... then, you'll be truly screwed!!!
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 11, 2010 6:06 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

Just wait till they start slaughtering animals in the Halal way.... then, you'll be truly screwed!!!

If it gets that far, we'll all either be dead or converts.

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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Tue May 11, 2010 6:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

Just wait till they start slaughtering animals in the Halal way.... then, you'll be truly screwed!!!

If it gets that far, we'll all either be dead or converts.

That's the plan :twisted: :twisted:
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Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat. - Mark Twain

Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty. - Ho Chi Minh
!لال سلام! انقلاب زنده باد
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 11, 2010 7:01 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

Just wait till they start slaughtering animals in the Halal way.... then, you'll be truly screwed!!!

If it gets that far, we'll all either be dead or converts.

That's the plan :twisted: :twisted:


By that point the Breakfast Menu would do away with bacon and ham, the horror!
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Islamic Hazarastan
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Tue May 11, 2010 7:04 am

Gauthier wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Islamic Hazarastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


Them ebil moslems put a stack of sugar in my ice cream.

I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!

Just wait till they start slaughtering animals in the Halal way.... then, you'll be truly screwed!!!

If it gets that far, we'll all either be dead or converts.

That's the plan :twisted: :twisted:


By that point the Breakfast Menu would do away with bacon and ham, the horror!

And no booze for the evenings... MUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Who are the oppressors? The few: the King, the capitalist, and a handful of other overseers and superintendents. Who are the oppressed? The many: the nations of the earth; the valuable personages; the workers; they that make the bread that the soft-handed and idle eat. - Mark Twain

Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty. - Ho Chi Minh
!لال سلام! انقلاب زنده باد
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 11, 2010 7:52 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
North Suran wrote:I cared about the World Trade Centre attacks when they happened.

I do not care now, almost 10 years later, where 9/11 is now routinely dragged out by US citizens hoping to further their partisan goals.

If only those who try and quell diabetes (5% of all deaths globally each year) or heart disease (17 million deaths globally each year) could wrangle such emotion.

Link diabetes or heart disease to Ebul Mozlems, that should get things going.


I hear Al Queda is claiming credit for all those deaths. Can we now divert the anti-terrorist budget that currently prevents the whopping average of.. say.. 600 deaths/year to combating this ?


They'd use it to invade all the fast food joints and manufacturers.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Assassinistan » Tue May 11, 2010 10:25 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:Genocide is any large-scale violent act against a specific group of people. 9/11 was a genocidal attack on Americans. I don't see what's so hard to get.

You've been added to my LOLWUT signature.

Well done. :)

That was actually the smartest thing I have ever heard on NSG, apart from The Imperial Navy's jokes.
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Jingoist Hippostan
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Postby Jingoist Hippostan » Tue May 11, 2010 10:29 am

Yes it's prejudiced, without question.

However, I understand their feelings and think that the Muslims should find somewhere else for their mosque out of respect to the victims and survivors.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 11, 2010 11:15 am

Jingoist Hippostan wrote:Yes it's prejudiced, without question.

However, I understand their feelings and think that the Muslims should find somewhere else for their mosque out of respect to the victims and survivors.


Of course the ideal "somewhere else" for these Real Americans™ would be out of the United States.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Vesser » Tue May 11, 2010 2:41 pm

Ifreann wrote:I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!


Ahahahahahaha!

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue May 11, 2010 3:09 pm

Vesser wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I heard that McDonalds employs some Muslims.

AL QAEDA OPERATIVES MAY BE POISONING YOUR HAMBURGER!


Ahahahahahaha!

I wouldn't laugh so hard. How do you know that the people in the German and Japanese car factories didn't have family slain by American bombs during that unpleasant episode back in the 1940s? Toyota, anyone? ;)
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Postby NeoGordonisia » Tue May 11, 2010 3:13 pm

they just had to pick Ground Zero... :palm:
not the most sensitive thing the Muslims could do, wouldn't you say?

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Postby Karsol » Tue May 11, 2010 3:15 pm

NeoGordonisia wrote:they just had to pick Ground Zero... :palm:
not the most sensitive thing the Muslims could do, wouldn't you say?

They owned the land before the attacks.
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Postby Callisdrun » Tue May 11, 2010 3:26 pm

NeoGordonisia wrote:they just had to pick Ground Zero... :palm:
not the most sensitive thing the Muslims could do, wouldn't you say?

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Postby NeoGordonisia » Tue May 11, 2010 3:31 pm

i wasn't debating their right to build, i'm just wondering if they couldn't sell the land and build somewhere else, for the sake of the victims' families

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Postby Callisdrun » Tue May 11, 2010 3:32 pm

NeoGordonisia wrote:i wasn't debating their right to build, i'm just wondering if they couldn't sell the land and build somewhere else, for the sake of the victims' families

Some of them probably ARE victims' families. Not everybody who died in the towers was Christian. Some were Muslims. And I mean besides the dudes flying the planes.

They owned the land before the attacks. The site was chosen for being accessible to their congregation. Why should they move?
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Postby Noitamiiced » Tue May 11, 2010 3:34 pm

how about we deport the muslims so they can build this thing in their own country?

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Postby Karsol » Tue May 11, 2010 3:35 pm

Noitamiiced wrote:how about we deport the muslims so they can build this thing in their own country?

They are US citizens, jerk. :roll:
And what about Caucasian converts?
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Postby NeoGordonisia » Tue May 11, 2010 3:38 pm

Callisdrun wrote:
NeoGordonisia wrote:i wasn't debating their right to build, i'm just wondering if they couldn't sell the land and build somewhere else, for the sake of the victims' families

Some of them probably ARE victims' families. Not everybody who died in the towers was Christian. Some were Muslims. And I mean besides the dudes flying the planes.

They owned the land before the attacks. The site was chosen for being accessible to their congregation. Why should they move?

i never said all the victims were Christian, so please stop shoving words in my mouth
frankly, Islam is the reason the towers went down, so i imagine the victims' families (minus the Muslim ones) would be a little PO'd

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Postby Vesser » Tue May 11, 2010 3:39 pm

Karsol wrote:
Noitamiiced wrote:how about we deport the muslims so they can build this thing in their own country?

They are US citizens, jerk. :roll:
And what about Caucasian converts?


That and there is no "Muslim" country. Infact, they're probably made up of several different countries.

Also, isn't there a thing called freedom of religion in America?

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Postby Katganistan » Tue May 11, 2010 3:40 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Please invest in a dictionary. Did the governments of Great Britain and the United States of America systematically kill every German in Germany?
Did they even come close?

Then it's not a genocide.
It was a horrible, horrible act of war, and one I'd prefer never were repeated anywhere, but it is still not genocide.


Oh, so it's only genocide if you SUCCEED. I see, so by your definition, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. The Holodomor wasn't genocide. The Armenian GENO-FUCKING-CIDE wasn't genocide.

Good work, you've invented a world without genocide.

I never said any such thing. But then again, I am not surprised. None of your arguments have any basis in reality.
It is not the systematic destruction of a group. TWO attacks is NOT A SYSTEMATIC destruction of a group. If you do not understand the difference between two attacks years apart, that do not aim to eliminate a group entirely, and putting people to death in camps for years, or shooting large numbers of people and throwing them into mass graves for years, then the problem lies entirely with you and not with anyone else.

But it's much easier to attack me and act like I am stupid when it is, in fact, you that are ignorant of what the word genocide entails.

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Postby Katganistan » Tue May 11, 2010 3:41 pm

Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Karsol wrote:
Sun Aut Ex wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Please invest in a dictionary. Did the governments of Great Britain and the United States of America systematically kill every German in Germany?
Did they even come close?

Then it's not a genocide.
It was a horrible, horrible act of war, and one I'd prefer never were repeated anywhere, but it is still not genocide.


Oh, so it's only genocide if you SUCCEED. I see, so by your definition, the Holocaust wasn't genocide. The Holodomor wasn't genocide. The Armenian GENO-FUCKING-CIDE wasn't genocide.

Good work, you've invented a world without genocide.

3000 people isn't genocide... :eyebrow:
It;s collateral damage :lol:

Seriously, purposefully exterminating 100's of thousands of people purely because they exist is genocide, a minor terrorist attack isn't.
And I say minor because compared to the overall population of the US...yeah...not so significant.


Wow, you don't even care any more, do you?

Not if this is the caliber of argument you're presenting, no.

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