Ghana passes bill making identifying as LGBTQ+ illegal

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

We see what happens in American cities like New York and San Francisco and what American government and hollywood promotes regarding homosexuality. We don't want to be like that. If you want it that's fine just don't promote it and force it upon us.

I think that’s a good point. We can have our separate opinions, we don’t need to fight about something that’s happening in a country that most everyone on this board is not living in.

This westphalianism needs to die. Especially in the post-COVID era where one country's fuckups, crimes against humanity and other omissions easily leads to worldwide pandemics, or worldwide economic breakdown.

[Zancostan]

I think that’s a good point. We can have our separate opinions, we don’t need to fight about something that’s happening in a country that most everyone on this board is not living in.

This westphalianism needs to die. Especially in the post-COVID era where one country's fuckups, crimes against humanity and other omissions easily leads to worldwide pandemics, or worldwide economic breakdown.

Exactly. I thought we figured out that this sort of cultural relativism as ridiculous after the Holocaust. Are we going to turn a blind eye to every crime against humanity and act of genocide because "oh well that's THEIR country not ours". Well what about the Ghanan citizens who are going to be jailed for the crime of being gay? It's their fucking country too.

There ARE gay Ghanans who are going to suffer horribly for this, and you don't see anyone heem hawwing about how "it's a different country" worried about them. Just because something became law doesn't mean that the entirety of that nation's population agree with said law. OBVIOUSLY.

[San Lumen]

what in the world are you talking about? How is it being promoted and in what way is being forced upon you?

I believe this user is referring to the forcing of woke culture in Hollywood and mainstream media, and how its becoming increasingly irritating to have writers/directors/executives force the LGBTQ+ agenda into the story and plot without regard for relevance to the story, in many cases its done well and we get a compelling message but what is increasingly happening is it being thrown in for seemingly no reason other than to promote the agenda, which people become tired of seeing eventually. Its like a commercial that keeps repeating constantly, it may have been alright the first few times but the constant replay will probably begin to at least seem repetitive to some, and annoying to those who didn't like it in the first place.

what agenda is being promoted?

[The Black Forrest]

what in the world are you talking about? How is it being promoted and in what way is being forced upon you?

I believe this user is referring to the forcing of woke culture in Hollywood and mainstream media, and how its becoming increasingly irritating to have writers/directors/executives force the LGBTQ+ agenda into the story and plot without regard for relevance to the story, in many cases its done well and we get a compelling message but what is increasingly happening is it being thrown in for seemingly no reason other than to promote the agenda, which people become tired of seeing eventually. Its like a commercial that keeps repeating constantly, it may have been alright the first few times but the constant replay will probably begin to at least seem repetitive to some, and annoying to those who didn't like it in the first place.

Define “woke culture”

What agenda is being forced?

You don’t have the ability to tune things out? I can’t tell you what the last commercial was on.

[Inner Albania]

what in the world are you talking about? How is it being promoted and in what way is being forced upon you?

I believe this user is referring to the forcing of woke culture in Hollywood and mainstream media, and how its becoming increasingly irritating to have writers/directors/executives force the LGBTQ+ agenda into the story and plot without regard for relevance to the story, in many cases its done well and we get a compelling message but what is increasingly happening is it being thrown in for seemingly no reason other than to promote the agenda, which people become tired of seeing eventually. Its like a commercial that keeps repeating constantly, it may have been alright the first few times but the constant replay will probably begin to at least seem repetitive to some, and annoying to those who didn't like it in the first place.

What kind of agenda is being promoted?

[Arvenia]

what in the world are you talking about? How is it being promoted and in what way is being forced upon you?

I believe this user is referring to the forcing of woke culture in Hollywood and mainstream media, and how its becoming increasingly irritating to have writers/directors/executives force the LGBTQ+ agenda into the story and plot without regard for relevance to the story, in many cases its done well and we get a compelling message but what is increasingly happening is it being thrown in for seemingly no reason other than to promote the agenda, which people become tired of seeing eventually. Its like a commercial that keeps repeating constantly, it may have been alright the first few times but the constant replay will probably begin to at least seem repetitive to some, and annoying to those who didn't like it in the first place.

You have a lot of explanation to do.

[Cannot think of a name]

I believe this user is referring to the forcing of woke culture in Hollywood and mainstream media, and how its becoming increasingly irritating to have writers/directors/executives force the LGBTQ+ agenda into the story and plot without regard for relevance to the story, in many cases its done well and we get a compelling message but what is increasingly happening is it being thrown in for seemingly no reason other than to promote the agenda, which people become tired of seeing eventually. Its like a commercial that keeps repeating constantly, it may have been alright the first few times but the constant replay will probably begin to at least seem repetitive to some, and annoying to those who didn't like it in the first place.

Define “woke culture”

What agenda is being forced?

You don’t have the ability to tune things out? I can’t tell you what the last commercial was on.

As I read this the commercial that was on ended and I was thinking, "Oh, well for me it was..." then...nuthin'.

[Zancostan]

Literal Nazi-style shit is going on in Ghana and these people wanna talk about "Work Culture" smh.

[San Lumen]

Literal Nazi-style shit is going on in Ghana and these people wanna talk about "Work Culture" smh.

I don’t get the connection either.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-68490872

"A relative told me if this bill is passed, any chance he gets, he is going to poison me because I am an abomination to the family," Mensah, whose name has been changed to protect his identity, tells the BBC.

Dressed in an all-black outfit, the young man in his late teens looks visibly terrified: "I am very worried anyone can snitch on me, even in my own neighbourhood. It's going to be very hard to live here."

He has been living for some time with sympathetic friends in Ghana's capital, Accra, since falling out with his family.

Mensah says when his mother discovered several years ago that he was attracted to boys, she started taking him to churches for prayers with the hope he would change.

"No friends except my church friends were allowed to see me. I had to study the Bible 24/7, pray and I would sit at the back anytime we went for meetings."

He says he was practically shunned at home - the wider family would not talk to him and he found their stares unbearable.

"They felt I would have influence on my cousins and the little ones."

Then in 2020, when the prayers and Bible studies were deemed to have failed, Mensah was excommunicated from his church for being gay.

His family were furious - and essentially outed him to their wider circle in an attempt to shame him.

"My family told a lot of my friends that this is who I am, I lost some good opportunities to further my education," he says.

Apparently we are to believe that this state-sanctioned terroristic farce is supposed to improve society.

[Saiwana]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

[Neutraligon]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

You are aware that the AIDS pandemic is a large problem in Africa right now correct?

[Stratonesia]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

You are aware that the AIDS pandemic is a large problem in Africa right now correct?

Yes

[San Lumen]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

Why should someone be oppressed because of who they are?

What do you have against pride parades?

[Adharcaili]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

You are aware that the AIDS pandemic is a large problem in Africa right now correct?

LGBTQ and AIDS...
*flashbacks to the 80s*

[Necroghastia]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

sai since when have you had a problem with banning things for being uncool (in your opinion)

[Neutraligon]

You are aware that the AIDS pandemic is a large problem in Africa right now correct?

LGBTQ and AIDS...
*flashbacks to the 80s*

It has more to do with being in a closet that creates an issue with AIDS. Basically being in a closet pushes more reckless forms of sex including multiple partners (you know since single partners are more likely to be found out by authorities) and unsafe sex (since you do not want anyone to find). These conditions are both great for increasing the spread of AIDs, and since there is such a thing as bi people and homosexual individuals who have sex with those of the opposite sex, that means it will also spread more rapidly in the straight population. One of the best ways to prevent sexually transmitted diseases is by making it easy for people to have single partners.

[Adharcaili]

LGBTQ and AIDS...
*flashbacks to the 80s*

It has more to do with being in a closet that creates an issue with AIDS. Basically being in a closet pushes more reckless forms of sex including multiple partners (you know since single partners are more likely to be found out by authorities) and unsafe sex (since you do not want anyone to find). These conditions are both great for increasing the spread of AIDs, and since there is such a thing as bi people and homosexual individuals who have sex with those of the opposite sex, that means it will also spread more rapidly in the straight population. One of the best ways to prevent sexually transmitted diseases is by making it easy for people to have single partners.

*sigh* My humour is not landing today. Oh well

[Neutraligon]

It has more to do with being in a closet that creates an issue with AIDS. Basically being in a closet pushes more reckless forms of sex including multiple partners (you know since single partners are more likely to be found out by authorities) and unsafe sex (since you do not want anyone to find). These conditions are both great for increasing the spread of AIDs, and since there is such a thing as bi people and homosexual individuals who have sex with those of the opposite sex, that means it will also spread more rapidly in the straight population. One of the best ways to prevent sexually transmitted diseases is by making it easy for people to have single partners.

*sigh* My humour is not landing today. Oh well

Nope, I just took advantage of your comment.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

"We need to ban homosexuality, or they'll ban heterosexuality."

How about we don't ban either. Is that such a crazy thought?

[Trump Almighty]

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

"We need to ban homosexuality, or they'll ban heterosexuality."

How about we don't ban either. Is that such a crazy thought?

He’s still not wrong about the media pressuring LGBTQ identity on our youth. Everyone has a right to question and explore their sexuality, but both social influencers and the media shouldn’t influence what sexuality someone chooses by stating that it’s “cool” to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual. A person’s sexuality is their own decision, not Hollywood’s

[Ignis Ferreus]

where???? please i am starving for good queer content

If you don't mind the focus on the L content in LGBT, I do have less mainstream but still excellent recommendations on that front. If you want I can TG them to you.

Mostly Japanese light novels, manga, and anime admittedly, but also several independent novels from American authors.

There are plenty of JPL, Manga Anime, and such with good representation, which in my opinion is portrayal that is is representative of the respective community without overfocusing on the LGBTQ2+ aspect and basically making the character's personality revolve around that. Its annoying when it happens with heterosexual characters well though. The West is guilty of not being able to write proper characters with actual development without doing this trend, so if you want some good LGBTQ2+ content then I suggest you search up anime's manga's and light novels related to the subject. Or you can just stumble across in in shows that have little to do with it, but its generally not an irritation when it happens for no particular reason because even though its seeing fairly often it tends to be done better than Western media.

I think its because western media focuses more on promoting or at the very least cramming LGBTQ2+ acceptance in the plot somehow than trying to write an actual story then later when it flops not necessarily because of said promotion but because it just had bad writing, the studio and people in charge will typically blame anti's for the failure rather than admit that they just can't write an entertaining story worth watching. Its quite sad to see such a community getting all the negative attention because of this marketing tactic and/or attempt to save face. This is probably why Disney is beginning to kick the bucket in terms of revenue, because they keep using the rainbow shield as a means to deny the fact they can't make good or decent content anymore.

[Neu California]

BTW, Necro, I know you TGed, me but my social anxiety is getting the better of me at the moment. I'll look at it when I can calm my anxiety enough

[The United Colonies of Earth]

"We need to ban homosexuality, or they'll ban heterosexuality."

How about we don't ban either. Is that such a crazy thought?

He’s still not wrong about the media pressuring LGBTQ identity on our youth. Everyone has a right to question and explore their sexuality, but both social influencers and the media shouldn’t influence what sexuality someone chooses by stating that it’s “cool” to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual. A person’s sexuality is their own decision, not Hollywood’s

Neither should the media be influencing the decision to conform or stand out by calling us all abominations, suicidals, depressives, pedo groomers, anti-Americans, or what other insulting bullshit they can throw. Action begets reaction buddy.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

"We need to ban homosexuality, or they'll ban heterosexuality."

How about we don't ban either. Is that such a crazy thought?

He’s still not wrong about the media pressuring LGBTQ identity on our youth. Everyone has a right to question and explore their sexuality, but both social influencers and the media shouldn’t influence what sexuality someone chooses by stating that it’s “cool” to be gay, lesbian, or bisexual. A person’s sexuality is their own decision, not Hollywood’s

Sure, the whole "Hey kids, being LGBT is super cool and awesome and your lame if you're not," can come off as a little irksome. Especially if it's in regards to gender transition where turning that kind of thing into a "cool trend" is especially irresponsible.

HOWEVER, for better or for worse LGBT people are going to take a certain amount of pride (for want of a better word) in their identity. Many LGBT people have had to fight tooth and nail simply for the right to live as themselves. So there's a certain level of catharsis there. Of defying the people who hate you or judge you and instead saying "No, actually t's cool to be gay!"

So while aggressively evangelizing LGBTism is a little cringe, a lot of the time it's just people express pride in their identity in the face of bigotry. And I'm hesitant to try and police people using pride as a means to cope with hatred against them. And the line between "aggressive LGBT evangelism" and "healthy pride" is really blurred.