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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:38 pm

Kubra wrote:
Theodorable wrote:Charles X was a reactionary and not bourgeois, but yes, the July monarchy was more Bourgeois.
That Charles X was so reactionary is pretty much why the bourbon regime fell and was replaced by Louis-Philippes bourgeois monarchy. Louis XVIII had a lot more sense, or at least found it after getting kicked out by Napoleon for being too much of a normal french monarch.
I mean hell that's a normal story, the only reason France didn't end up a monarchy after the franco-prussian war is because the presumptive monarch was too monarchist even for the monarchist parliament of Thiers. Mfer singlehandly sunk monarchy in france because he wanted the surrender flag as the national one.

It wasn’t the surrender flag! It was representative of the House of Bourbon!


Although I will admit it comes disturbingly close.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:40 pm

Kreigsreich of Iron wrote:
Kubra wrote: That Charles X was so reactionary is pretty much why the bourbon regime fell and was replaced by Louis-Philippes bourgeois monarchy. Louis XVIII had a lot more sense, or at least found it after getting kicked out by Napoleon for being too much of a normal french monarch.
I mean hell that's a normal story, the only reason France didn't end up a monarchy after the franco-prussian war is because the presumptive monarch was too monarchist even for the monarchist parliament of Thiers. Mfer singlehandly sunk monarchy in france because he wanted the surrender flag as the national one.

It wasn’t the surrender flag! It was representative of the House of Bourbon!


Although I will admit it comes disturbingly close.
Oh yeah boy *was it* representative of the house of bourbon
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Postby Almighty Biden » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:43 pm

Forsher wrote:I haven't seen it but I heard the reviews were terrible. ;)

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Postby Durius » Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:29 am

To Portugal he was certainly bad. He just invaded because we were trading with the British, causing severe death and destruction and even throwing us into a position of almost vassalage towards the British after the invadors were defeated. I don't think the metric system is worth enough to erase his imperialist stain.

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Postby Singaporen Empire » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:15 am

He kind of stopped the mass killing French Revolution from continuing forever, but he also himself killed tons of people so…

Impossible decision.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:16 am

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Postby Bienenhalde » Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:59 am

Singaporen Empire wrote:He kind of stopped the mass killing French Revolution from continuing forever, but he also himself killed tons of people so…

Impossible decision.


Yeah, I agree. I think he improved France's domestic governance, but in terms of foreign policy he seems like an irresponsible warmonger.

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Postby Kaumudeen » Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:30 pm

Good, he tried to rectify the relationship between the Church and State after the bastard revolutionaries destroyed it.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:05 pm

He was one of history’s greatest leaders.

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Postby Singaporen Empire » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:25 am

Haven’t watched it yet.

Oh, the person, Ok.

Ummmm, he stopped the French Revolution but also got Europe into war so idk
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