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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby Derscon » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:19 am

Train them to be a bisexual sociopathic nymphomaniac at age 7.
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Postby Ryadn » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:21 am

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South East Europe wrote:If I were ever to have offspring or children under my care (heavens forfend), I'd raise them genderless, secular, and intellectual. Let them make up their own minds about stuff like their gender, their orientation, their religious/philosophical beliefs, or whatever else. If I raised them right, I shouldn't have anything to fear about letting them work out such matters for themselves. The only parents who need to control their children's orientation or religious beliefs are those who don't trust their kids to make the right decisions for themselves.


I have no problem with this, but I draw the line when it comes to sports teams. I'm not raising a Yankee fan in my household, I don't care how "natural" it feels!
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:22 am

South East Europe wrote:
The Scandinvans wrote:Sexual orientation can be suppressed leading to an asexual life.

Asexuality is a seperate, individual, sexual orientation. It's not the opposite of sexual orientation. It is still a sexual orientation.


asexuality is a "sexual orientation" the way atheism is a religion
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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby South East Europe » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:24 am

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South East Europe wrote:My family blames me for everything: the Physical Disability that I was born with, My Transgendered status that I cannot change. When I made the decision to live as who I am, stop lying to myself, and make the best of my life that is when the hatred and intolerance began. No parent should condemn and ridicule their own child for being different. The relationship with my family will never recover. Parents should make the right choice: To love their children no matter what, not abuse Her/Him. My family knew the result, they just never gave a damn about me. There are good ways to raise children and there are bad ways.

I must concede, that's one of the worst ways I can think of to raise a child. That's not so much raising a child as dragging it along behind you.

Well, it was most of my family that did that. My parents weren't that bad, just didn't believe me that these things were happening and said I got hurt because I apparantly provoked people by living my life. Me, my sister, and my cousins were pretty much raised by all of my family. So that's probably why I went through so much pain, well that and my parents not protecting me. My parents were Doctors, the rest of my family spent more time being religious fanatics then actually working. Whenever I did something "deviant", I was called a sinner and forced to read the bible. Then, I was normally beaten unmercifully. I blame my parents for all the abuse and torture that I went through mainly because they didn't try and prevent it from happening.
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Postby South East Europe » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:26 am

Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:
The Scandinvans wrote:Sexual orientation can be suppressed leading to an asexual life.

Asexuality is a seperate, individual, sexual orientation. It's not the opposite of sexual orientation. It is still a sexual orientation.


asexuality is a "sexual orientation" the way atheism is a religion


No, Celibacy is a sexual orientation the way Atheism is a religion. Asexuality, however, is a sexual orientation the way Christianity is a religion.
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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:30 am

South East Europe wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
South East Europe wrote:Asexuality is a seperate, individual, sexual orientation. It's not the opposite of sexual orientation. It is still a sexual orientation.

asexuality is a "sexual orientation" the way atheism is a religion

No, Celibacy is a sexual orientation the way Atheism is a religion. Asexuality, however, is a sexual orientation the way Christianity is a religion.

Some people just aren't sexually attracted to anyone or anything (asexuality), whereas some people who may be attracted to someone or something opt not to act on it (celibacy). And therein lies the difference, NA.

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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby South East Europe » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:34 am

Milks Empire wrote:
South East Europe wrote:
Neo Art wrote:Asexuality is a "sexual orientation" the way atheism is a religion

No, Celibacy is a sexual orientation the way Atheism is a religion. Asexuality, however, is a sexual orientation the way Christianity is a religion.

Some people just aren't sexually attracted to anyone or anything (asexuality), whereas some people who may be attracted to someone or something opt not to act on it (celibacy). And therein lies the difference, NA.

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Postby Waterlow » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:52 am

Haven't read the thread but I suspect no one will have said anything along the lines of: single parent families are frequently better than traditional nuclear.

There are plenty of right answers, many contradictory. I rather like involving as many friends as possible as 'uncles' and 'aunts'. Ultimately the child needs to know they're loved and to have at least some discipline. After that, good luck to you.
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Postby South East Europe » Thu Jul 02, 2009 11:59 am

Waterlow wrote:Haven't read the thread but I suspect no one will have said anything along the lines of: single parent families are frequently better than traditional nuclear.

There are plenty of right answers, many contradictory. I rather like involving as many friends as possible as 'uncles' and 'aunts'. Ultimately the child needs to know they're loved and to have at least some discipline. After that, good luck to you.


"Single parent families are frequently better than traditional nuclear families".

All children must be loved.
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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby Treznor » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:01 pm

A child in a single family who is loved and nurtured is always better off than a traditional nuclear family that is repressive or neglectful.

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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:02 pm

Treznor wrote:A child in a single family who is loved and nurtured is always better off than a traditional nuclear family that is repressive or neglectful.


And a child in a nuclear family that is loved and nurtured is better off than a single-parent family that is repressive or neglectful. What's your point?
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Re: How to properly raise a child.

Postby Treznor » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Treznor wrote:A child in a single family who is loved and nurtured is always better off than a traditional nuclear family that is repressive or neglectful.


And a child in a nuclear family that is loved and nurtured is better off than a single-parent family that is repressive or neglectful. What's your point?

Merely pointing out that a traditional nuclear family is not always the best option for a child.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:04 pm

Treznor wrote:Merely pointing out that a traditional nuclear family is not always the best option for a child.


No, a home filled with love, nurturing, and meaningful instruction is, regardless of its makeup.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby South East Europe » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Treznor wrote:Merely pointing out that a traditional nuclear family is not always the best option for a child.


No, a home filled with love, nurturing, and meaningful instruction is, regardless of its makeup.


Yes, families with love nurting and meaningful instruction is good, thats probably the opposite of a traditional nuclear family though.
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Postby Minnas » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Treznor wrote:Merely pointing out that a traditional nuclear family is not always the best option for a child.


No, a home filled with love, nurturing, and meaningful instruction is, regardless of its makeup.


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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:09 pm

Minnas wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Treznor wrote:Merely pointing out that a traditional nuclear family is not always the best option for a child.


No, a home filled with love, nurturing, and meaningful instruction is, regardless of its makeup.


Galloism, are you a father?


Not that I'm aware of, but my parents worked damn hard to raise me (and was I ever difficult), and they never gave up on me. I could only hope to be such a parent someday.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Getbrett » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 pm

I view children as an inconvenience at the minimum, an obstacle otherwise. I will never reproduce as I have no patience for creatures like children.

If, by unfortunate circumstance, I were to reproduce, I'd raise my child as an effective clone of myself.

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Postby Minnas » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 pm

Galloism wrote:Not that I'm aware of, but my parents worked damn hard to raise me (and was I ever difficult), and they never gave up on me. I could only hope to be such a parent someday.


Would you like to become a parent then?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:10 pm

Minnas wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not that I'm aware of, but my parents worked damn hard to raise me (and was I ever difficult), and they never gave up on me. I could only hope to be such a parent someday.


Would you like to become a parent then?


I've considered it. I have not made any firm conclusions.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Milks Empire » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:11 pm

Waterlow wrote:Haven't read the thread but I suspect no one will have said anything along the lines of: single parent families are frequently better than traditional nuclear.

As Treznor said, a loving single parent of either gender is always better than a nuclear family that rejects the child.

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Postby Minnas » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
Minnas wrote:
Galloism wrote:Not that I'm aware of, but my parents worked damn hard to raise me (and was I ever difficult), and they never gave up on me. I could only hope to be such a parent someday.


Would you like to become a parent then?


I've considered it. I have not made any firm conclusions.


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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:13 pm

Minnas wrote:I didn't really think you would have such a side.


Tends to happen to people as they get older. :blush:
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:14 pm

JuNii wrote:Like everything else, there is no one true way.
you can only do your best.

You sound like my mother.

uh anyway how to raise a child, you feed them lots of yeast and then they'l rise up and keep on rising into the sky then you take pictures because it's funny to see them floating about.
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Postby Minnas » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:14 pm

Galloism wrote:
Minnas wrote:I didn't really think you would have such a side.


Tends to happen to people as they get older. :blush:


I would like to be a parent too one day.
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Postby Treznor » Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:16 pm

Minnas wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Minnas wrote:I didn't really think you would have such a side.


Tends to happen to people as they get older. :blush:


I would like to be a parent too one day.

Y'know, I kinda thought you were making an offer. :unsure:

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