In order to vote, Click HERE! (updated for April, 2024)
Current map, white is undecided land grab
UPDATED: trice
Before Voting...
-The map is hand drawn on paint.net, it is choppy, I know, be understanding
-This is only the first nation to be under scrutiny, for future treaties please comment down below if you want to be TGed with new polls when they come out
-Discussions should be civil, on the current poll preferably and articulate
-The voting is also an experiment, similar to Simple History's ones on YT and of NS redraws Europe thread in F7, let's though avoid ultimate border gore
-The map and thought put into it, it isn't perfect and if I have forgotten things or maybe some border options do not make sense, I apologize
-Be sure to vote with one nation and carefully peruse all questions
-No heated debates, please reason your decisions
-Voting will stay opened for a period I consider "appropriate"
-Results will be published here, with a constant map update and a future reveal of all info (if Google forms allows me)
-I will do a rundown of how the peace goes after all treaties are signed, just as I think it'd go from here
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For extra spice, people can use their nationality to be diplomats from a certain nation
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Onto the OP proper
To not have this shut down for vague OP, and keep it structured, here:
1. You can discuss about each poll, discussing what's the best course of action and whu
2. Discussions about how general peace would have been reached are welcomed
3. You can also discuss about various treaties, why or why shouldn't have existed, as well about various national movements and territorial gains
My position:
If I'd been in charge of the diplomatic discussions, I would have favored my own country to gain their historical lands and along Greater Romania real borders, I guess a bit of bias, less of nationalism and more of pure pragmatism to strengthen regional power. I'd favor though a balanced neutral approach to varied nations, with a lenience in mind for most powers, and even for those harshly punished, they should be punished to a certain extent.
Concrete put, Austria would still get dismantled, but not have such hefty economic punishments imposed on. Caucasian states would gain independence, with Armenia gaining Ottoman land. Kurds and Arabs would also gain their fair share of land, with Turkey favored by me to not lose much land. Maybe a bit of European land, like Edirne.
Greece would gain Cyprus and most isles, with Arabs gaining large portion of land, although I feel it would be too unstable, leaving thus space for an independent Iraq and Syria if not for a united second arab state. Palestine would either stay so or be a multicultural state where both Jews and Arabs would hold equal footing through an Entente backed Republic.
Ottomans/Turks should be punished, but I feel a moderate punishment to allow their further existence and a stop to Russian strength in the region.
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Older Polls:
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