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Postby The German Crown » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:34 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:Huh.

On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

On the other hand, this is probably not the best move politically.


Agreed

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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:35 am

The German Crown wrote:
Burnt Calculators wrote:Huh.

On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

On the other hand, this is probably not the best move politically.


Agreed


If anything, it will only create more enemies.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:36 am

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"Moral standpoint" :roll:


I mean, I'm not going to force my morals on anyone else, so I don't see why you should be so bothered. This really does seem like a rather dumb idea on Russia's part.


That's what Russia is doing. Even advocating for rights is going to be banned, and discriminatory legislation has already been enacted.

That's what you expressed support for. Don't pretend you didn't.
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Postby The German Crown » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:38 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:
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Agreed


If anything, it will only create more enemies.


Might make muslim countries like them slightly more

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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:38 am

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
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I mean, I'm not going to force my morals on anyone else, so I don't see why you should be so bothered. This really does seem like a rather dumb idea on Russia's part.


That's what Russia is doing. Even advocating for rights is going to be banned, and discriminatory legislation has already been enacted.

That's what you expressed support for. Don't pretend you didn't.


No, not really. I don't think anyone should be persecuted for being gay.

But you know what? You can just go on thinking I'm a horrible person, and I will be just fine with that.
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Postby Floofybit » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:42 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

I get the fascist accounts saying this but not you too...
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:47 am

Floofybit wrote:
Burnt Calculators wrote:On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

I get the fascist accounts saying this but not you too...


That's what she and many people believe in Floof.

She did not expect to get pushback, hence why she felt comfortable saying it.
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:51 am

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Burnt Calculators wrote:On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

I get the fascist accounts saying this but not you too...


You know what? It was the wrong thing to say. I'll admit that. Now, I'd rather people didn't take that out of context to prove that I'm a fascist.

But: my morals are different from everyone else's morals, and while I may personally disagree with something, I'm not really going to put up a big fuss about it (unless you start screaming "FASCIST!!!").
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Postby Floofybit » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:52 am

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I get the fascist accounts saying this but not you too...


That's what she and many people believe in Floof.

She did not expect to get pushback, hence why she felt comfortable saying it.

I get that. I just expected her not to commend persecution especially after arguably one of the biggest parts of me and hers religious history is religious persecution.
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Postby Floofybit » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:55 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:You know what? It was the wrong thing to say. I'll admit that. Now, I'd rather people didn't take that out of context to prove that I'm a fascist.

But: my morals are different from everyone else's morals, and while I may personally disagree with something, I'm not really going to put up a big fuss about it (unless you start screaming "FASCIST!!!").

Don't worry. I won't call you fascist because I won't put an ideology on you unless you say it yourself. (Or if it's blatantly obvious)
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:55 am

Floofybit wrote:
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That's what she and many people believe in Floof.

She did not expect to get pushback, hence why she felt comfortable saying it.

I get that. I just expected her not to commend persecution especially after arguably one of the biggest parts of me and hers religious history is religious persecution.


I don't commend persecution, but if it's what makes you feel better then... :shrug:

It was worded wrong. I wish I hadn't said it. But you can dog on me all you want, if it makes you feel virtuous.


Also, I did expect pushback. You are making assumptions, and incorrect ones at that.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:57 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I get the fascist accounts saying this but not you too...


You know what? It was the wrong thing to say. I'll admit that. Now, I'd rather people didn't take that out of context to prove that I'm a fascist.

But: my morals are different from everyone else's morals, and while I may personally disagree with something, I'm not really going to put up a big fuss about it (unless you start screaming "FASCIST!!!").


Fascist or not, you have abhorrent positions.

Saying it is the wrong thing to say does not take it back. It is your belief, one you didn't expect to be called out on.
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:59 am

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
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You know what? It was the wrong thing to say. I'll admit that. Now, I'd rather people didn't take that out of context to prove that I'm a fascist.

But: my morals are different from everyone else's morals, and while I may personally disagree with something, I'm not really going to put up a big fuss about it (unless you start screaming "FASCIST!!!").


Fascist or not, you have abhorrent positions.

Saying it is the wrong thing to say does not take it back. It is your belief, one you didn't expect to be called out on.


What, then, is my belief?
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:02 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:
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Fascist or not, you have abhorrent positions.

Saying it is the wrong thing to say does not take it back. It is your belief, one you didn't expect to be called out on.


What, then, is my belief?


You clearly want discrimination to be tolerated, while punishing those who oppose it.
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Postby Floofybit » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:02 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I get that. I just expected her not to commend persecution especially after arguably one of the biggest parts of me and hers religious history is religious persecution.


I don't commend persecution, but if it's what makes you feel better then... :shrug:

It was worded wrong. I wish I hadn't said it. But you can dog on me all you want, if it makes you feel virtuous.


Also, I did expect pushback. You are making assumptions, and incorrect ones at that.

I didn't realise that you "didn't mean it" until after I said that. And the only happening because of this law is persecution so it's an indirect support whether your meant it or not.
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:04 am

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
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What, then, is my belief?


You clearly want discrimination to be tolerated, while punishing those who oppose it.


No, I don't think so.
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:06 am

Floofybit wrote:
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I don't commend persecution, but if it's what makes you feel better then... :shrug:

It was worded wrong. I wish I hadn't said it. But you can dog on me all you want, if it makes you feel virtuous.


Also, I did expect pushback. You are making assumptions, and incorrect ones at that.

I didn't realise that you "didn't mean it" until after I said that. And the only happening because of this law is persecution so it's an indirect support whether your meant it or not.


I suppose half the problem was that I did not know the full extent of the new Russian law (and still don't). Persecution is horrible - like you said, I would know.
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Postby Juristonia » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:08 am

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The German Crown wrote:I gave more insight when I edited my reply


Not much insight is to be had with your position.

The insight is literally just them hating trans people
It's basic edgy teen bigotry that they're weirdly proud of.
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Postby The German Crown » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:10 am

so is the argument ending now or...

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Postby Juristonia » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:13 am

There was never an argument to be had here.
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Postby The German Crown » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:21 am

I was talking about the agruement with the christmas furry, the burning calculator, and the pride month komodo dragon thingy

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Postby The German Crown » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:24 am

Juristonia wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Not much insight is to be had with your position.

The insight is literally just them hating trans people
It's basic edgy teen bigotry that they're weirdly proud of.


thinking your other gender is a mental illness and they are to stupid to accept it.

I hate how they are so ignorant

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The German Crown wrote:I was talking about the agruement with the christmas furry, the burning calculator, and the pride month komodo dragon thingy

you're actually kind of funny. this is good shitposting, take notes.
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Postby Kalaron » Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:58 am

Burnt Calculators wrote:Huh.

On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

On the other hand, this is probably not the best move politically.

Well, no. The first issue is that it's monstrous, morally.

Burnt Calculators wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I didn't realise that you "didn't mean it" until after I said that. And the only happening because of this law is persecution so it's an indirect support whether your meant it or not.


I suppose half the problem was that I did not know the full extent of the new Russian law (and still don't). Persecution is horrible - like you said, I would know.

Ah, I see, so you came into a thread titled "RU Supreme Court declares LGBTQ Activism "Extremist", and you were like "Oh boy I bet they're morally and ethically going after all the gay people in Russia"?

No, seriously, what do you even support about this law? It's not just that it's a bad position because it makes you look like a fascist, it's a bad position because there's no way to actually justify the law that isn't painfully homophobic.
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Postby Burnt Calculators » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:11 am

Kalaron wrote:
Burnt Calculators wrote:Huh.

On one hand, from a moral standpoint, I commend them.

On the other hand, this is probably not the best move politically.

Well, no. The first issue is that it's monstrous, morally.

Burnt Calculators wrote:
I suppose half the problem was that I did not know the full extent of the new Russian law (and still don't). Persecution is horrible - like you said, I would know.

Ah, I see, so you came into a thread titled "RU Supreme Court declares LGBTQ Activism "Extremist", and you were like "Oh boy I bet they're morally and ethically going after all the gay people in Russia"?

No, seriously, what do you even support about this law?


Nothing, honestly.
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