Should NS be a core part of American learning?

[Federal Republic of Serov]

The only reason they think they’re in the wrong body is because of the leftists in the culture and the rejection of Christianity.

Bro, if my takes are bad, yours are terrible. What do you get from telling people how to live? What do you get? People should learn to be more inclusive so NS should be used in schools

Ah, leftist tears

I’m just trying to preserve a society that acknowledges truth. Because if you can deny the fundamental truth that there are 2 genders, man and woman, and they can’t be changed, then there is no truth.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

[Eragon Island]

The sheer amount of people with nuclear Twitter level of bad takes on NSG (including some from this very thread) should give one pause before integrating it with public education.

Let's be real here. Can public education truly get any worse? NS surely can't be rock bottom

At least we aren't 4chan or some shit.

Also, as a student, education in this country sucks. NS might be an improvement in some areas.

[Eragon Island]

Bro, if my takes are bad, yours are terrible. What do you get from telling people how to live? What do you get? People should learn to be more inclusive so NS should be used in schools

Ah, leftist tears

I’m just trying to preserve a society that acknowledges truth. Because if you can deny the fundamental truth that there are 2 genders, man and woman, and they can’t be changed, then there is no truth.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

At what point did I state I was leftist? All I did was advocate for freedom. And, if anything, you are trying to limit freedom.

Anyway, all that I stated was that NS might be good for the system.

[Picairn]

The sheer amount of people with nuclear Twitter level of bad takes on NSG (including some from this very thread) should give one pause before integrating it with public education.

Let's be real here. Can public education truly get any worse? NS surely can't be rock bottom

Nah it absolutely can. We have Stalin apologists, literal Nazis, terrorist apologists, and war crime deniers on this very forum.

[Second Dimetrodon Empire]

Bro, if my takes are bad, yours are terrible. What do you get from telling people how to live? What do you get? People should learn to be more inclusive so NS should be used in schools

Ah, leftist tears

I’m just trying to preserve a society that acknowledges truth. Because if you can deny the fundamental truth that there are 2 genders, man and woman, and they can’t be changed, then there is no truth.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

Ah, rightest tears.

Also, kind of pathetic that you have to quote a leftist writer by the name of George Orwell, especially when I know for a fact he is much more like me than you.

[Federal Republic of Serov]

Ah, leftist tears

I’m just trying to preserve a society that acknowledges truth. Because if you can deny the fundamental truth that there are 2 genders, man and woman, and they can’t be changed, then there is no truth.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

Ah, rightest tears.

Also, kind of pathetic that you have to quote a leftist writer by the name of George Orwell, especially when I know for a fact he is much more like me than you.

1984 is an anti-authoritarian book. Not a left-wing or right-wing book. What’s really pathetic is that you’ve run out of arguments and are just insulting me Lol.

[Makko Oko]

Ah, rightest tears.

Also, kind of pathetic that you have to quote a leftist writer by the name of George Orwell, especially when I know for a fact he is much more like me than you.

1984 is an anti-authoritarian book. Not a left-wing or right-wing book. What’s really pathetic is that you’ve run out of arguments and are just insulting me Lol.

Just gonna say an idea here, why don't you just create a new thread asking if Orwell was leftist or anti-authoritarian. That topic is not really for this thread.

[The Socially Conservative Crimson Spire]

Let's be real here. Can public education truly get any worse? NS surely can't be rock bottom

Nah it absolutely can. We have Stalin apologists, literal Nazis, terrorist apologists, and war crime deniers on this very forum.

I'm not sure any form of social media should be mandated anyway, even without the characters you can find on NSG
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[Unogonduria]

What are they gonna do, print Max Berry's face onto the textbook cover?

That's actually a great idea

Here, to see some unprofessionalism on the work:

https://imgur.com/a/URa81uG

[Second Dimetrodon Empire]

Ah, rightest tears.

Also, kind of pathetic that you have to quote a leftist writer by the name of George Orwell, especially when I know for a fact he is much more like me than you.

1984 is an anti-authoritarian book. Not a left-wing or right-wing book. What’s really pathetic is that you’ve run out of arguments and are just insulting me Lol.

It is a left-wing book. It is an attack on both far-left Stalinism and far-right Nazism, and attacking both from the left.

See the quote in my signature.

[Federal Republic of Serov]

1984 is an anti-authoritarian book. Not a left-wing or right-wing book. What’s really pathetic is that you’ve run out of arguments and are just insulting me Lol.

It is a left-wing book. It is an attack on both far-left Stalinism and far-right Nazism, and attacking both from the left.

See the quote in my signature.

I disagree, as there are no left-wing themes in 1984 only anti-authoritarian. But that’s your opinion.

[Main Page]

yes

[Free Social Conservatives]

1984 is an anti-authoritarian book. Not a left-wing or right-wing book. What’s really pathetic is that you’ve run out of arguments and are just insulting me Lol.

It is a left-wing book. It is an attack on both far-left Stalinism and far-right Nazism, and attacking both from the left.

See the quote in my signature.

Dimetrodon, you have a peculiar interest in holding to the belief Orwell was a socialist writer in the context Socialist was used back then. I don't quite understand your thinking here.

[Second Dimetrodon Empire]

It is a left-wing book. It is an attack on both far-left Stalinism and far-right Nazism, and attacking both from the left.

See the quote in my signature.

I disagree, as there are no left-wing themes in 1984 only anti-authoritarian. But that’s your opinion.

I think the author's own words have more value on that front.

And page 241 of the book had this to say about capitalism:

Nor was it a satisfactory solution to keep the masses in
poverty by restricting the output of goods. This happened
to a great extent during the final phase of capitalism, rough-
ly between 1920 and 1940. The economy of many countries
was allowed to stagnate, land went out of cultivation, capital
equipment was not added to, great blocks of the popula-
tion were prevented from working and kept half alive by
State charity.

Orwell is saying here that pure capitalism tried to do the same thing the totalitarian party, but was just less successful at it.

[Second Dimetrodon Empire]

It is a left-wing book. It is an attack on both far-left Stalinism and far-right Nazism, and attacking both from the left.

See the quote in my signature.

Dimetrodon, you have a peculiar interest in holding to the belief Orwell was a socialist writer in the context Socialist was used back then. I don't quite understand your thinking here.

He literally fought in the armed wing of a Communist Party during the Spanish Civil War too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia

And he called himself a democratic socialist. That's just me stating facts, whether you like it or not.

[Floofybit]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

I don't remember Jesus supporting any of these. How can you be Christian if you don't follow Christ?

[Makko Oko]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

I don't remember Jesus supporting any of these. How can you be Christian if you don't follow Christ?

Ask every right-winger in America. They appear to have it down.

[Osmauri]

I disagree, as there are no left-wing themes in 1984 only anti-authoritarian. But that’s your opinion.

I think the author's own words have more value on that front.

And page 241 of the book had this to say about capitalism:

Nor was it a satisfactory solution to keep the masses in
poverty by restricting the output of goods. This happened
to a great extent during the final phase of capitalism, rough-
ly between 1920 and 1940. The economy of many countries
was allowed to stagnate, land went out of cultivation, capital
equipment was not added to, great blocks of the popula-
tion were prevented from working and kept half alive by
State charity.

Orwell is saying here that pure capitalism tried to do the same thing the totalitarian party, but was just less successful at it.

"final phase of capitalism" aged first like bad milk and then like tragically fine wine

[Federal Republic of Serov]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength

I don't remember Jesus supporting any of these. How can you be Christian if you don't follow Christ?

Exactly. That’s why the culture has rejected Christianity.

[Floofybit]

I don't remember Jesus supporting any of these. How can you be Christian if you don't follow Christ?

Exactly. That’s why the culture has rejected Christianity.

Sorry, I'm confused. Are you trying to say that the idea of trans people is a doublethink or that you support doublethinks? Either way, both are stupid ideas.

[Second Dimetrodon Empire]

I don't remember Jesus supporting any of these. How can you be Christian if you don't follow Christ?

Exactly. That’s why the culture has rejected Christianity.

You conservatives live up to those slogans much better than anyone you are criticizing.

[Edush]

NationStates for Educators is already a thing, but I don't see how it can become 'a core part' of any education system... maybe it can be used more, but not so much so that it becomes an important part of learning.

[Federal Republic of Serov]

Exactly. That’s why the culture has rejected Christianity.

Sorry, I'm confused. Are you trying to say that the idea of trans people is a doublethink or that you support doublethinks? Either way, both are stupid ideas.

The “transgenderism” is a doublethink. I don’t support doublethink.

[Hurdergaryp]

This thread is many things, but it is -not- the dumbest question ever asked in NationStates General.

[Federal Republic of Serov]

Exactly. That’s why the culture has rejected Christianity.

You conservatives live up to those slogans much better than anyone you are criticizing.

How though?