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Thermodolia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:14 pm

Kildear wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:People have read it and still haven’t believed in the existence of HaShem. And tbh I’m kinda on the fence if the big guy exists. So if people have read the Bible and still don’t believe going to a church won’t help your case.

Either way this has nothing to do with the existence of trans people

Lol, when did this turn into the Pride thread?

It didn’t one guy just blames NS and the supposed lack of Christianity for the existence of trans people
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Postby Simonia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:21 pm

It shouldn't be mandatory, but it would be interesting if NS Summer gets replaced with, say, NS September or something as teachers force students to play NationStates. I'd love to see many classroom regions pop up and the NS nation count double overnight. Honestly NationStates wouldn't help with learning geography as almost all of the nations on NationStates is fictional (like mine), but it might help a bit with decision making. It could aLeo draw popularity away from Pokemon cards as kids switch their interest to NationStates trading cards. Meanwhile, the rest of NS could talk about how the popularity of NationStates suddenly boomed.
Summary: NS shouldn't be mandatory, but it should be suggested to teachers across the US.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:28 pm

Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:CRT is a college level course. It does not exist below that. With the exception of a dumb comment about the American Revolution, 1619 is pretty accurate.

Abortion is not murder, since most "fetuses" are terminated pretty early. Just a group of cells. And people get abortions mainly due to inability to take care with the child and to save the life of the mother. No one uses it as birth control.

Many people don't get impeached, even if they deserve it. Nothing proven there. And there really isn't much of a difference between Christian Nationalists and conservatives. Not in America anyway.


Translation form leftist inanity to normal human:

“I don’t know history and I believe propaganda. I want to kill babies and am just making excuses to do it. I can’t tell the difference between a normal person with a different view of how the country should be and a quasi-fascist.”


Translation from rightist insanity to normal human:

"I know jack shit about history, yet project that onto the left. I want to kill LGBTQ+ youth and am looking for excuses to do it. I like the idea of youth who don't conform to my worldview suffering and dying by my actions. I also cannot tell the difference between a group of cells and an infant. I also cannot handle left-wingers existing, since it hurts my feelings."
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Postby Snowish Republic » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:30 pm

I fear what would happen to NS if this occurred
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Postby Trump Almighty » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:34 pm

Yes. The sooner I can use NS General to indoctrinate American kids toward the path of Law & Order and Making America Great Again, the stronger America will be. It's very beautiful!
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Postby Federal Republic of Serov » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
People with GD exist they just aren’t “transgender”

Trans is just shorthand for the condition that’s it.


No. The word “transgender” inherently implies that they are right about being a different gender.
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Postby Federal Republic of Serov » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:50 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Translation form leftist inanity to normal human:

“I don’t know history and I believe propaganda. I want to kill babies and am just making excuses to do it. I can’t tell the difference between a normal person with a different view of how the country should be and a quasi-fascist.”


Translation from rightist insanity to normal human:

"I know jack shit about history, yet project that onto the left. I want to kill LGBTQ+ youth and am looking for excuses to do it. I like the idea of youth who don't conform to my worldview suffering and dying by my actions. I also cannot tell the difference between a group of cells and an infant. I also cannot handle left-wingers existing, since it hurts my feelings."


Just stop. That “translation” is utter Bullsh*t and proves you are an idiot who doesn’t even know what Conservatives actually believe. I never said I wanted to kill anybody. I don’t want anyone to die. The reason “trans” people have such a gif suicide rate is because they aren’t actually treating the problem (GD) and are instead giving them insane delusions.
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Postby Nyoskova » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:53 pm

Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Translation from rightist insanity to normal human:

"I know jack shit about history, yet project that onto the left. I want to kill LGBTQ+ youth and am looking for excuses to do it. I like the idea of youth who don't conform to my worldview suffering and dying by my actions. I also cannot tell the difference between a group of cells and an infant. I also cannot handle left-wingers existing, since it hurts my feelings."


Just stop. That “translation” is utter Bullsh*t and proves you are an idiot who doesn’t even know what Conservatives actually believe.


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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:55 pm

Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Translation from rightist insanity to normal human:

"I know jack shit about history, yet project that onto the left. I want to kill LGBTQ+ youth and am looking for excuses to do it. I like the idea of youth who don't conform to my worldview suffering and dying by my actions. I also cannot tell the difference between a group of cells and an infant. I also cannot handle left-wingers existing, since it hurts my feelings."


Just stop. That “translation” is utter Bullsh*t and proves you are an idiot who doesn’t even know what Conservatives actually believe.


Get over it, idiot.

Your translation wasn't any better. Don't give what you cannot take.
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Postby Federal Republic of Serov » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:56 pm

Nyoskova wrote:
Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Just stop. That “translation” is utter Bullsh*t and proves you are an idiot who doesn’t even know what Conservatives actually believe.


We mustn’t fight each other! Surely we should be united against the common enemy!


The only common enemy we have a is the actual fascists.
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Postby Federal Republic of Serov » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:58 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Just stop. That “translation” is utter Bullsh*t and proves you are an idiot who doesn’t even know what Conservatives actually believe.


Get over it, idiot.

Your translation wasn't any better. Don't give what you cannot take.


Mine was accurate yours was just Bullsh*t
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:01 pm

Snowish Republic wrote:I fear what would happen to NS if this occurred


I don't think anything would happen to NS.

The teacher should keep their students away from the forums though.
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Postby Nyoskova » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:06 pm

“leftist in[s]anity to normal human” —Serov
“rightist insanity to normal human” —Dimetrodon Empire

Simplified:

“Nice argument. Unfortunately, I written a thing where I am the normal human and you are insane.”

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Postby Dantek » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:16 pm

What will Professor Max Barry teach us? R and D? C and C? Perhaps that one World Assembly proposal that passed a week ago?
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:18 pm

Dantek wrote:What will Professor Max Barry teach us? R and D? C and C? Perhaps that one World Assembly proposal that passed a week ago?

Well if they survive the toxicity that is NSG they might learn that snark and cheap shots are better than actually arguing your point
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Postby Delitai » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:18 pm

Yes, I think there's already a feature for teachers and students to use but I'm not sure
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Postby Trump Almighty » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Dantek wrote:What will Professor Max Barry teach us? R and D? C and C? Perhaps that one World Assembly proposal that passed a week ago?

Well if they survive the toxicity that is NSG they might learn that snark and cheap shots are better than actually arguing your point


Poster A: Makes a legitimate argument

Poster B: Uses Poster A's comment completely out of context to make it look stupid "And that's why poster A is such a(n) [INSULT]"
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Postby Nyoskova » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:28 pm

Trump Almighty wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well if they survive the toxicity that is NSG they might learn that snark and cheap shots are better than actually arguing your point


Poster A: Makes a legitimate argument

Poster B: Uses Poster A's comment completely out of context to make it look stupid "And that's why poster A is such a(n) [INSULT]"

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Postby Free Social Conservatives » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:30 pm

Trump Almighty wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well if they survive the toxicity that is NSG they might learn that snark and cheap shots are better than actually arguing your point


Poster A: Makes a legitimate argument

Poster B: Uses Poster A's comment completely out of context to make it look stupid "And that's why poster A is such a(n) [INSULT]"

I mean a proper debate artist will make Poster B seem like an idiot and continued with yet more reasonable discussion.
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Postby Trump Almighty » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:40 pm

Free Social Conservatives wrote:
Trump Almighty wrote:
Poster A: Makes a legitimate argument

Poster B: Uses Poster A's comment completely out of context to make it look stupid "And that's why poster A is such a(n) [INSULT]"

I mean a proper debate artist will make Poster B seem like an idiot and continued with yet more reasonable discussion.


Something NS unfortunately sorely lacks. I am perfect at debating Biden in the Presidential Debate, but it’s a lot harder to debate other NS users in General since the stakes are way higher
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:42 pm

Free Social Conservatives wrote:
Trump Almighty wrote:
Poster A: Makes a legitimate argument

Poster B: Uses Poster A's comment completely out of context to make it look stupid "And that's why poster A is such a(n) [INSULT]"

I mean a proper debate artist will make Poster B seem like an idiot and continued with yet more reasonable discussion.

The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Free Social Conservatives wrote:I mean a proper debate artist will make Poster B seem like an idiot and continued with yet more reasonable discussion.

The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.


Why are you making it like Poster A (Serov) was so much more logical than me or something? :roll:

Nevermind, misread the conversation. :oops:
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Postby Trump Almighty » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:47 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.


Why are you making it like Poster A (Serov) was so much more logical than me or something? :roll:


You are not Poster B and Serov is not poster A
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:50 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.


Why are you making it like Poster A (Serov) was so much more logical than me or something? :roll:

Don’t assume that you are poster B or Serov is poster A, because that’s silly. Neither of you are the topic of this conversation.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Why are you making it like Poster A (Serov) was so much more logical than me or something? :roll:

Don’t assume that you are poster B or Serov is poster A, because that’s silly. Neither of you are the topic of this conversation.


Understood, thanks.
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