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Postby Free Social Conservatives » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:07 pm

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Free Social Conservatives wrote:I mean a proper debate artist will make Poster B seem like an idiot and continued with yet more reasonable discussion.

The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.

Then ask yourself 'why the heck am I debating this moron.'
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:09 pm

Free Social Conservatives wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem is that Poster B wouldn’t care. It’s very hard to debate with those who’ve both already made up their mind and those who’ve decided that you are such an [insult] even if you happen to make a fool of them.

Then ask yourself 'why the heck am I debating this moron.'

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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:09 pm

As I said, school class regions should be used if this was a core part of our education system.

But yeah, certainly not the forums. There is nothing of value here.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:20 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:As I said, school class regions should be used if this was a core part of our education system.

But yeah, certainly not the forums. There is nothing of value here.

Well at least NSG. There’s definitely nothing valuable there. Actually add the entirety of F7 as that’s just spam central. And GE&T is worthless unless you think the bazillion “slave market” and “military industrial complex” threads are worth something.

Probably should axe the RP forums too nothing really goes on there anymore outside of crappy one liner threads.

The entirety of the WA forums is just a bunch of people trying to sound smart and lawyer like, so that can go.

A&F is full of nerds, PTM is boring and an RP thread.

So that just leaves trading cards, moderation, and gameplay. That should cut down on the hamsters needed to run the place
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Postby Eragon Island » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:As I said, school class regions should be used if this was a core part of our education system.

But yeah, certainly not the forums. There is nothing of value here.

Well at least NSG. There’s definitely nothing valuable there. Actually add the entirety of F7 as that’s just spam central. And GE&T is worthless unless you think the bazillion “slave market” and “military industrial complex” threads are worth something.

Probably should axe the RP forums too nothing really goes on there anymore outside of crappy one liner threads.

The entirety of the WA forums is just a bunch of people trying to sound smart and lawyer like, so that can go.

A&F is full of nerds, PTM is boring and an RP thread.

So that just leaves trading cards, moderation, and gameplay. That should cut down on the hamsters needed to run the place


That'd work better.
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Postby Trump Almighty » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:25 pm

Well at least NSG. There’s definitely nothing valuable there. Actually add the entirety of F7 as that’s just spam central. And GE&T is worthless unless you think the bazillion “slave market” and “military industrial complex” threads are worth something.


There needs to be a mega thread for all of the slave market posts, because most of us are extremely tired of seeing them. And then there is always one nation who is like “slavery is evil, I nuke your capital!” which is equally redundant.
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:31 pm

Eragon Island wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well at least NSG. There’s definitely nothing valuable there. Actually add the entirety of F7 as that’s just spam central. And GE&T is worthless unless you think the bazillion “slave market” and “military industrial complex” threads are worth something.

Probably should axe the RP forums too nothing really goes on there anymore outside of crappy one liner threads.

The entirety of the WA forums is just a bunch of people trying to sound smart and lawyer like, so that can go.

A&F is full of nerds, PTM is boring and an RP thread.

So that just leaves trading cards, moderation, and gameplay. That should cut down on the hamsters needed to run the place


That'd work better.


Indeed, though I'm not sure the WA forums would be problematic for students. Though I can see why they wouldn't be that helpful either.
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Postby Eragon Island » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:35 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Eragon Island wrote:
That'd work better.


Indeed, though I'm not sure the WA forums would be problematic for students. Though I can see why they wouldn't be that helpful either.


Yeah, I feel like that would be up to something a school, or teacher, could say you could go on or something
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Postby Tangatarehua » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:38 pm

No, it should only be a core part of Canadian and Mexican learning instead.
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Postby M-101 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:46 pm

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:Absolutely NOT. In fact, I think there should be a complete freeze on sign-ups for American NS accounts, because I am the most American being on the planet. I'm more American than anybody else in the world combined, more American than baseball and apple pie, more American than the flag and the F-150, more American than President Trump and Tarrio, more American than the Army and the AR-15, more American than all existant and theoretical matter combined. In fact, if another user joins NSG, this site will become less American because the average Americanness will go down. Keep this site American and do not let any learners part of the Marxist-ridden Generation "Alpha" join this website.

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Postby M-101 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:As I said, school class regions should be used if this was a core part of our education system.

But yeah, certainly not the forums. There is nothing of value here.

Probably should axe the RP forums too nothing really goes on there anymore outside of crappy one-liner threads.

The roleplay forums DO have great to insane quality role plays, you just have to be either patient to wait for one or enterprising to start one.
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Postby Intaglio » Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:58 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:People have read it and still haven’t believed in the existence of HaShem. And tbh I’m kinda on the fence if the big guy exists. So if people have read the Bible and still don’t believe going to a church won’t help your case.

Either way this has nothing to do with the existence of trans people

Lol, when did this turn into the Pride thread?

Someone brought up the number of trans people and allies here as supposed proof of this site's "fat-left" bias. Because just being trans makes you a fat-leftist or whatever.

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Postby Federal Republic of Serov » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:14 pm

Intaglio wrote:
Kildear wrote:Lol, when did this turn into the Pride thread?

Someone brought up the number of trans people and allies here as supposed proof of this site's "fat-left" bias. Because just being trans makes you a fat-leftist or whatever.


Yes it does. Because only the left supports that lunacy.
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Postby Intaglio » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:20 pm

Federal Republic of Serov wrote:
Intaglio wrote:Someone brought up the number of trans people and allies here as supposed proof of this site's "fat-left" bias. Because just being trans makes you a fat-leftist or whatever.


Yes it does. Because only the left supports that lunacy.

There are transgender conservatives, so that's a no.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:22 pm

Intaglio wrote:
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Yes it does. Because only the left supports that lunacy.

There are transgender conservatives, so that's a no.

Not to mention the inane amount of fascist trans people
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Postby Almighty Biden » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:42 pm

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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:45 pm

NS is a left-winged echo-chamber. I'm pretty sure there's enough echo-chambers in the USA's education system, albeit right winged ones
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Postby Second Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:03 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:NS is a left-winged echo-chamber. I'm pretty sure there's enough echo-chambers in the USA's education system, albeit right winged ones


No it isn't a left-wing echo-chamber.

Plenty of right-wingers post here.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:16 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:NS is a left-winged echo-chamber. I'm pretty sure there's enough echo-chambers in the USA's education system, albeit right winged ones


No it isn't a left-wing echo-chamber.

Yes it is

Plenty of right-wingers post here.

It's still an echo-chamber and it's fewer right-wingers than you would think
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Postby Makko Oko » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:52 pm

Simonia wrote:I'd love to see many classroom regions pop up and the NS nation count double overnight.


Max's hamsters wouldn't be able to keep up with that
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Postby Makko Oko » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:57 pm

Second Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Eragon Island wrote:
That'd work better.


Indeed, though I'm not sure the WA forums would be problematic for students. Though I can see why they wouldn't be that helpful either.


Actually the WA could be helpful for potential legal scholars/lawyers of our future. They would actually get to learn diplomacy and how laws actually get passed in an interactive way.
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Postby Technoscience Leftwing » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:40 pm

The games "Civilization" and "Tropico" are perhaps more suitable for learning. The problem is that:

1. In Nation States, resources and money are abundant, but in reality they are limited.
2. In Nation States, foreign enemies cannot invade the country, which means defense spending and diplomatic alliances can be as stupid as you like. In reality there is no such thing.
3. In Nation States, rebellious factions or masses cannot overthrow the government or sabotage its decisions. In reality, as well as in the games "Civilization" and "Tropico", the populace or disloyal military are capable of rioting.
4. In the Nation States there is no progressive, natural development of the scientific and technical basis. In reality, it exists, and we have to keep up with the scientific and technological development of neighboring powers.

These features are not so important for countries like the USA, Canada or Australia, which, due to their geographical location and history, are cut off from potential enemies by oceans and have a thriving economy. But for the countries of Eurasia, which had agrarian backwardness, a poor population and conflicts on the borders, these things are very important, and the game without taking them into account is not so educational.

However, Nation States can also teach a lot: what is the current list of problems for modern rulers, how to make the best choice from bad options, etc.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:31 am

Makko Oko wrote:Ladies and gents, I have here the most philosophical (and probably the dumbest) question to ever be asked on this very forum. Should NationStates (or even NSG itself) become a part of the American public school system? Should NSG be mandatory reading and participation? Why or why not? We all know that we say dumb things (myself included), and I do think there is a lot of diversity and learning potential on this site. Everybody learns from one another, and kids would get to learn healthy debate without breaking into fisticuffs. Therefore, I think that NSG should be mandatory reading, and playing NS itself should be mandatory to help nurture kids' imaginations. I am not leaning either way for mandatory participation in NSG.

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Postby Osmauri » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:37 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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No they are just brainwashed.

Trans people exist my dude. Whether or not you think they should transition is another topic entirely, but to claim they don’t exist is quite silly.

And to blame trans people existing on people not being Christian is even sillier

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