Mustaches Immoral? (Atheism and Morals)

[Ausgebombt]

For sure. But he's definately not a Pagan either. To my understanding, there was a group of Germanic Pagans that were just starting up (i'll see if I can get their names down in the book that this is located in) around the time of WW2, and Hitler had them executed or exiled, I believe.

I had heard that he at least somewhat supported it, if not directly advocating it.

No, that's Nazi Occultism that he supported, which is entirely different from Germanic Paganism, primarily because Nazi Occultism was more or less a justification for the reason why the Nazis thought that they were so superior to all of the other races of the world, and Germanic Paganism is simply the celebration and/or worship of Germanic gods whos traditions and customs predate the Nazi Party by thousands of years.

[NERVUN]

I... am confused. Does this belong in F7 or in General?

[Vonners]

I... am confused. Does this belong in F7 or in General?

Yes.

[Der Teutoniker]

I... am confused. Does this belong in F7 or in General?

Well, it could reasonably be called an intellectual defense of atheism.

Probably F7 though....

Edit: Says the guy who totally knows more than the mod he is addressing....

[Der Teutoniker]

Germanic Paganism is simply the celebration and/or worship of Germanic gods whos traditions and customs predate the Nazi Party by thousands of years.

This, I'm aware of. I'm (thankfully) not one of those people who thinks that all Germanic Paganists must be National-Sozialist supporters or some such other ridiculousness.

[NERVUN]

I... am confused. Does this belong in F7 or in General?

Well, it could reasonably be called an intellectual defense of atheism.

Probably F7 though....

Edit: Says the guy who totally knows more than the mod he is addressing....

*tries a bit harder to nudge the topic back on track*

I... am confused. Does this belong in F7 or in General?

Well, it was meant as an example as to the problems of implying correlation and causation with atheism and morals.

I know what you were trying to do, but General is being General and I'm not too sure we're gonna get there. But we'll see.

[Ausgebombt]

Germanic Paganism is simply the celebration and/or worship of Germanic gods whos traditions and customs predate the Nazi Party by thousands of years.

This, I'm aware of. I'm (thankfully) not one of those people who thinks that all Germanic Paganists must be National-Sozialist supporters or some such other ridiculousness.

It's a terribly hard image we're trying to fight off. One thing that makes it hard is that the Nazis used Germanic runes (which are very important to Germanic/Norse Pagans/Asatru like myself) in alot of their symbols (Ex: The Sieg rune being used for the SS symbol, as is demonstrated in my flag) so it makes it that much easier for racists to identify with us and that much harder for us to convince other people that we're not racists.

[Tekania]

What to things do all these men have in common? They have mustaches and are widely considered to be evil.

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Ok, so that's utter bullshit. Mustaches are not evil. But then again, why do people like to reference Stalin, Mao, and Hitler (even though he was Catholic) as Atheist, in order to "prove" a point that Atheism is immoral. Why? Why do you need your "big brother" watching over you to have morals?

Clearly the opposite is true:

[Zykorinov]

What to things do all these men have in common? They have mustaches and are widely considered to be evil.

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Ok, so that's utter bullshit. Mustaches are not evil. But then again, why do people like to reference Stalin, Mao, and Hitler (even though he was Catholic) as Atheist, in order to "prove" a point that Atheism is immoral. Why? Why do you need your "big brother" watching over you to have morals?

Clearly the opposite is true:

I lol'd.

[Carls-land]

NO! The image of pure evil will corrupt the forum!

who is that guy anyway?

[Dyakovo]

NO! The image of pure evil will corrupt the forum!

who is that guy anyway?

Dr. Phil

[Yootopia]

why do people like to reference Stalin, Mao, and Hitler (even though he was Catholic) as Atheist, in order to "prove" a point that Atheism is immoral. Why?

Because some people rag on the church about the various crusades and jihads and all of that and it's a piss easy counterblaste to that.

[Chumblywumbly]

Chaplain, Ghandi, Einstein, um... Ron Jeremy?

[Islamic Hazarastan]

'Staches are evil? Huh....

[Yootopia]

Chaplain, Ghandi, Einstein, um... Ron Jeremy?

Chappo was a commie type (and thus killed millions, or would have), Ghandi tried to ruin the economy by not eating very much (really trying there), Einstein nuked the Japs, and Ron Jeremy was in a load of boring porn films as well as a couple of good ones. So he's a bit like the British Empire which was sorta bad.

[Chumblywumbly]

NO! The image of pure evil will corrupt the forum!

who is that guy anyway?

Dr. Phil

Ah, for a bit I thought it was George Bluth/Hank Kingsley aka Jeffrey Tambor.

[Kryozerkia]

Someone had a little too much coffee methinks.

In all seriousness though, facial hair or any physical characteristic for that matter is not indicative of morality. It's the actions that are moral, amoral and immoral.

[New Manvir]

Jesus had a mustache.



Then again, he was a rabble-rousing hippie Jew.

[Carls-land]

atheism is more moral than theism, actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

[Panzerjaeger]

Common misconception. He had an INTEREST in it, and keep in mind that this was the time that he was taking meth. The reason why he had an interest in it is because he sought to use "Black Magic" and "Germanic rituals" to fight the Allies.

Once again, keep in mind that he was taking meth at the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Religious_views

Ok. Still not Catholic though.

Not Catholic but he was Christian. It was Himmler and Hess who dabbled in German Paganism due to their associations with the Thule Society.

[Chumblywumbly]

actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

Not only is this the wrong way to go about things, it's also completely infeasible.

Moreover, as Hitchens says, it's much more fun having religious folks to argue with.

[Carls-land]

actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

Not only is this the wrong way to go about things, it's also completely infeasible.

Moreover, as Hitchens says, it's much more fun having religious folks to argue with.

yeah i know all about your anarchist morals about people being able to do whatever they want

[Panzerjaeger]

actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

Not only is this the wrong way to go about things, it's also completely infeasible.

Moreover, as Hitchens says, it's much more fun having religious folks to argue with.

yeah i know all about your anarchist morals about people being able to do whatever they want

You are the oddest "Liberal" I have ever seen on here.

[Carls-land]

actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

Not only is this the wrong way to go about things, it's also completely infeasible.

Moreover, as Hitchens says, it's much more fun having religious folks to argue with.

yeah i know all about your anarchist morals about people being able to do whatever they want

You are the oddest "Liberal" I have ever seen on here.

actually i think i'm mire accurately described as a Meritocratist
oh and you are the oddest ''fascist'' i have ever seen here

[Chumblywumbly]

actually theism is so immoral that it should be banned for good

Not only is this the wrong way to go about things, it's also completely infeasible.

Moreover, as Hitchens says, it's much more fun having religious folks to argue with.

yeah i know all about your anarchist morals about people being able to do whatever they want

If you've any familiarity with my posting history, you'll have seen I distinctly don't think people should do whatever they want.