Can anyone be redeemed?

[North Freachikion]

Partially.
If this dude would literally kill Jews and be in concentration camps as a Nazi, no. In fact, even if they cure Cancer, Alzheimer’s, or Dementia, no.

[Eternal Algerstonia]

anyone can redeem themselves through a youtube apology video

[North Freachikion]

you can redeem yourself through a youtube apology video

n o t f u n n y

[Valentine Z]

Depends on if they have enough redemption points. Some royalty cards don't go that far.

[Why are you in here]

If they didn't do anything too bad I see no reason why they shouldn't be redeemed

[Bradfordville]

Ex nazis are totally redeemable. People who stand outside the stall door when you're inside on the other hand...

[Neanderthaland]

God is really regretting that, "whoever kills Hitler gets a free pass to heaven" policy right now.

[Tarsonis]

“What is better – To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”

[Auzkhia]

Yes, as long you do the work, it can last a whole lifetime, though I tend to be a fairly forgiving person myself, but it definitely needs some effort to earn it.

[Neutraligon]

Redeemed in the eyes of whom. Also, seems to me it is an ongoing process that ends only at death.

[Floofybit]

“What is better – To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”

The latter

[Lauderdalle]

Not everyone can be redeemed.

[Katganistan]

“What is better – To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”

Parthunax, is that you?

[Torisakia]

No one can be redeemed. They willingly chose to follow and support the ideology. Once a Nazi always a Nazi. Same goes for other ideologies/movements similar.

[Lauderdalle]

No one can be redeemed. They willingly chose to follow and support the ideology. Once a Nazi always a Nazi. Same goes for other ideologies/movements similar.

I agree with this thought process. Especially with rapists and child molesters.

[Juansonia]

No one can be redeemed. They willingly chose to follow and support the ideology.

Agency is an illusion, reality is deterministic. Therefore, there is nobody worth blame/praise/redemption/punishment/etc.

[Torisakia]

No one can be redeemed. They willingly chose to follow and support the ideology.

Agency is an illusion, reality is deterministic. Therefore, there is nobody worth blame/praise/redemption/punishment/etc.

Still doesn't change the fact that they willingly subscribed to a hateful ideology. Don't want to be associated with Nazis? Don't get involved with them. Funny how that stuff works.

[Juansonia]

Agency is an illusion, reality is deterministic. Therefore, there is nobody worth blame/praise/redemption/punishment/etc.

Still doesn't change the fact that they willingly subscribed to a hateful ideology.

You are still pretending that people are even able to make free choices. That is where you are wrong.

There is no choice: human brains operate in a deterministic, yet complicated, manner.

edit: I'd go so far as to argue that the concept of personhood is bullshit as well.

[Lauderdalle]

Still doesn't change the fact that they willingly subscribed to a hateful ideology.

You are still pretending that people are even able to make free choices. That is where you are wrong.

There is no choice: human brains operate in a deterministic, yet complicated, manner.

edit: I'd go so far as to argue that the concept of personhood is bullshit as well.

So if I create a fascist-nazi government that commits genocide on millions, and to evade the consequences of my actions, kill myself to get out of it, I wouldn't be a bad person? I wouldn't be irredeemable?

[Bovad]

You are still pretending that people are even able to make free choices. That is where you are wrong.

There is no choice: human brains operate in a deterministic, yet complicated, manner.

edit: I'd go so far as to argue that the concept of personhood is bullshit as well.

So if I create a fascist-nazi government that commits genocide on millions, and to evade the consequences of my actions, kill myself to get out of it, I wouldn't be a bad person? I wouldn't be irredeemable?

Their claim is that nobody can ever be to blame as nobody really exists.

[Lauderdalle]

So if I create a fascist-nazi government that commits genocide on millions, and to evade the consequences of my actions, kill myself to get out of it, I wouldn't be a bad person? I wouldn't be irredeemable?

Their claim is that nobody can ever be to blame as nobody really exists.

:facepalm:

so i guess you can't blame hitler or stalin or the kim dynasty or mao zedong or christopher columbus or king leopold or marie antoinette and king louis or king henry XVIII or literally anyone for their atrocities then?

[Bovad]

Their claim is that nobody can ever be to blame as nobody really exists.

:facepalm:

so i guess you can't blame hitler or stalin or the kim dynasty or mao zedong or christopher columbus or king leopold or marie antoinette and king louis or king henry XVIII or literally anyone for their atrocities then?

They are claiming that essentially none of those people existed.

[North Freachikion]

God is really regretting that, "whoever kills Hitler gets a free pass to heaven" policy right now.

“Hello guys this is Angelia here in Heaven Broadcasting Company and today we will talk about how this new dude named Hitler just killed 200 angels”

[Lauderdalle]

:facepalm:

so i guess you can't blame hitler or stalin or the kim dynasty or mao zedong or christopher columbus or king leopold or marie antoinette and king louis or king henry XVIII or literally anyone for their atrocities then?

They are claiming that essentially none of those people existed.

ik it was them. so going by that belief, i can do anything i want and no one can blame me because I actually dont exist which is literally a theory

[Torisakia]

Still doesn't change the fact that they willingly subscribed to a hateful ideology.

You are still pretending that people are even able to make free choices. That is where you are wrong.

There is no choice: human brains operate in a deterministic, yet complicated, manner.

edit: I'd go so far as to argue that the concept of personhood is bullshit as well.

Was someone holding a gun to their head and telling them "support Nazism or else"? Likely not. At least not these days.