UK Politics Thread: Conservative Losses in Local Elections

[Dumb Ideologies]

There will be enough vote splitting between the Tories and Reform that Labour will have an overwhelming majority.

My dream result would be to see Labour get an overwhelming majority and Starmer loses his seat but that won't happen.

well our collective dream is that you lose your password but we are where we are

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

In spice news, according to a latest YouGov poll, the Tories trail Reform in the north and amongst ALL men nationally, and are only 6 points ahead of them amongst over 65s. The Tories only have 10% of under 50s, just two points ahead of the Greens.

Either YouGov have serious issues with their polling or we're in the midst of a possibly massive, if likely short-lived (one or two elections max) re-alignment of the right wing in this country.

how the fuck is reform leading all men nationally?

It's not - it's leading the Tories amongst all men nationally.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Labour leads by 24% in the Red Wall. Lowest Conservative vote % since Sunak became PM. Highest ever Reform %.

Red Wall VI (16 March):

LAB: 48% (-1)
CON: 24% (-1)
RFM: 16% (+2)
LDM: 5% (-1)
OTH: 6% (-1)

Changes +/- 25 Feb. @RedfieldWilton

[HISPIDA]

how the fuck is reform leading all men nationally?

It's not - it's leading the Tories amongst all men nationally.

that makes way more sense.

[Tinhampton]

In unrelated news, yes, it is a new Costa policy that all baristas nationwide have to wear a massive dark-red badge prompting customers to ask about allergens in whatever they're ordering and not just a HQ-supported initiative that stemmed from the goodwill of my local store manager's heart.

[Celritannia]

Could you stop with the broken record nonsense?
No one cares what you think about Starmer.

I dont think hes a good leader.

And Biden is too old.

Prime Ministers are not meant to be eccentric and boorish.

[Celritannia]

I dont think hes a good leader.

He is basically a Tory.

Ehhh, not really.

[Kaumudeen]

He is basically a Tory.

Ehhh, not really.

Not a Tory but refuses to repeal many of their policies and refuses to implement longstanding Labour policies. Yep sounds like a Labour leader for sure..............

[Tinhampton]

Paola Marra, beneficiary of assisted dying in Switzerland, now wants it legalised here. Huge development, even though she is arguably the least famous person to have called for this so far?

[Fartsniffage]

He is basically a Tory.

Ehhh, not really.

Yes. If he was a British politician he would be a Tory. Like Cameron.

[Celritannia]

Ehhh, not really.

Not a Tory but refuses to repeal many of their policies and refuses to implement longstanding Labour policies. Yep sounds like a Labour leader for sure..............

Ehhh, not really.

Yes. If he was a British politician he would be a Tory. Like Cameron.

I don't think he is a Tory.
He comes across more like a Lib Dem.

[Kerwa]

Ehhh, not really.

Not a Tory but refuses to repeal many of their policies and refuses to implement longstanding Labour policies. Yep sounds like a Labour leader for sure..............

One criticism of the UK that many people make is that the leadership and media class are very often drawn from the same narrow band of UK (arguably international!) society. As such, to outsiders, their differences seem so inconsequential as to make them virtually identical to each other. Naturally to themselves the differences seem huge and unbridgeable, often leading to acrimonious disputes.

And of course, if you take the position of thinkers like Prof. John Gray, the UK is so dependent on international capital flows for its survival there’s very little room for large policy overhaul in any case. This was sort of demonstrated in the Liz Truss situation.

[Deblar]

There will be enough vote splitting between the Tories and Reform that Labour will have an overwhelming majority.

My dream result would be to see Labour get an overwhelming majority and Starmer loses his seat but that won't happen.

My dream result is Great Britain being wiped from the face of the earth /j

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

I got turned down for a thread poll on Reform before, I still think it is justified.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Particularly if (as I previously suggested) some of the better known Tory right jump ship.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Rishi Sunak launches their local election campaign with a confidence and enthusiasm reminiscent of Neil Kinnock in 1992.

[Kaumudeen]

Not a Tory but refuses to repeal many of their policies and refuses to implement longstanding Labour policies. Yep sounds like a Labour leader for sure..............

One criticism of the UK that many people make is that the leadership and media class are very often drawn from the same narrow band of UK (arguably international!) society. As such, to outsiders, their differences seem so inconsequential as to make them virtually identical to each other. Naturally to themselves the differences seem huge and unbridgeable, often leading to acrimonious disputes.

And of course, if you take the position of thinkers like Prof. John Gray, the UK is so dependent on international capital flows for its survival there’s very little room for large policy overhaul in any case. This was sort of demonstrated in the Liz Truss situation.

So the UK is a slave to international capital and finance? What a nightmare, especially considering what few benefits it has brought to Britain aside from a few people in London.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 47% (+4)
CON: 24% (-1)
RFM: 11% (-1)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (=)
SNP: 2% (=)

Via @wethinkpolling, 21-22 Mar. Changes w/ 14-15 Mar.

[Hirota]

Westminster Voting Intention:

LAB: 47% (+4)
CON: 24% (-1)
RFM: 11% (-1)
LDM: 9% (=)
GRN: 6% (=)
SNP: 2% (=)

Via @wethinkpolling, 21-22 Mar. Changes w/ 14-15 Mar.

Ooof, that would lead to a Labour Majority of around 352...

Standard disclaimers of reading too much into those numbers should apply, of course.

[Kaumudeen]

Dan Barker, the Conservative candidate for the Greater Manchester Mayoral election, has defected to Reform. The Tories have two weeks to select a new candidate. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68623838

I assume Andy Burnham is going to win whatever.

I see Owen Jones has quit Labour.

Well Jones sees the writing on the wall. Labour will do fuck all in power, more of the same.

[Bienenhalde]

Ehhh, not really.

Not a Tory but refuses to repeal many of their policies and refuses to implement longstanding Labour policies. Yep sounds like a Labour leader for sure..............

There is nothing wrong with being a Labour leader being a social democrat who supports left-leaning economic and social welfare policies while also being patriotic and supporting traditional British culture and institutions. Especially if that is what the electorate actually wants.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Laura Evans has been confirmed as the new Conservative candidate for the 2024 Greater Manchester Mayoral Election.

Evans ran for the same position in 2021, finishing 2nd on 19.6%, some 47.7% behind Andy Burnham on 67.3%.

BBC article confirming it, also about her criticising Burnham

[Philjia]

The Princess of Wales has cancer, which was detected during her abdominal surgery earlier this year.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The Princess of Wales has cancer, which was detected during her abdominal surgery earlier this year.

Cancer is fucking horrible, hope her treatments go well.

[Fartsniffage]

The Princess of Wales has cancer, which was detected during her abdominal surgery earlier this year.

Fuck cancer.